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#1 TerryS

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 05:14

This Saturday 15 Feb the 60th Anniversary of the very first Australian Touring Car Championship Race will be celebrated at the Gnoo Blas Circuit, Orange. This is in Central West New South Wales. 
 
The circuit was then just out of Orange on country roads, but now it is suburbia. The circuit was of 6.03 km and roughly of triangular shape.
 
The circuit was opened in 1953 and closed in 1961.
 
The race was won by David McKay in a Jaguar 3.4. Second and third were Bill Pitt and Ron Hodgson also in Jaguars.
 
There were 50 starters and the race was over 20 laps.
 
The celebrations will be part of the annual Gnoo Blas Classic Car Club car show in Jack Brabham Park (inside the old circuit)which is a great event in itself.
 
In addition to drivers Special Guests will include Kevin Bartlett, Garry Rogers and John Crennan
 
Orange is about 3 and a half hours west of Sydney. It is about three quarters of an hour west of Bathurst..
 
Here are some links for extra info:

https://www.gnooblas.com/

https://www.gnooblas.com/history/

http://www.gnooblas....-entry-form.pdf

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#2 Doug Nye

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 08:00

Jack Brabham recalled racing at Gnoo Blas and with some mirth described 'Mental Straight' - "...past the asylum" - to me, as an example of 1950s Aussie directness, ending "That wouldn't be allowed now..."

 

And perhaps, just for once, justifiably so.

 

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#3 MarkBisset

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Posted 14 October 2020 - 11:02

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Its not super sharp but let’s take fifties Gnoo Blas colour when we can get it, 1955 South Pacific Championship Meeting (unattributed)

 

Not the championship race but a heat by the look. Brabham’s Cooper T23 Bristol, either the John McMillan or Gordon Greig / Bill Reynolds Alfa Tipo B, then Peter Whitehead, Ferrari 500/625. Other cars and race results folks? 
 

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#4 john medley

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Posted 14 October 2020 - 20:28

Bugatti Holden, Brabham Cooper Bristol, 32 MG perhaps Barrett, Noel Barnes MG, McMillan Alfa Romeo,Jack Murray Allard Cadillac, perhaps Don Wright Citroen, Whitehead Ferrari, Jack Robinson Jaguar



#5 MarkBisset

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Posted 14 October 2020 - 21:25

Great to hear from you John- what is the beast on RHS front row? 
 

m



#6 cooper997

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Posted 14 October 2020 - 23:55

Mark, given this Gnoo Blas meeting was all handicapped races, my first thought for this photo was that it could be scratch markers with most of the other cars having gone. But then there's slower cars behind. So that makes me think this could be a Sunday practice session - racing being the Monday of course.

 

For the record this is the official entry list info for the first event this group of cars would run. There is at least 1 difference captured in the photo to that of the entry list with car 47 being the Alfa Alvis, rather than the Austin Healey, Gordon Greig is listed with. It is stated in AMS that Greig purchased the Alfa on the eve of this race meeting.

 

Event 3 Gnoo Blas Handicap – racing cars 5 laps

1 B Bira                                   Maserati 2500 0.00

2 P Whitehead                        Ferrari 3000 0.00

3 R H Hunt                               Maserati 2500 0.00

4 F A O Gaze                          Ferrari 2968 0.00

6 R Cobden                             Ferrari 1997 0.25

10 J McMillan                           Alfa Romeo 2900 0.25

12 F Zambucca                       Maserati 2980 0.25

77 A N Davison                       HWM 3442 0.50

5 J Brabham                            Redex Special (C-B) 1972cc 0.50

7 S F Coffey                            Dowidat Spanners Special (C-B) 1971cc 1.00

8 J E Murray                            Allard/Cadillac 5250 1.10

9 D Harvey                              Triumph TR2 2200 1.10

11 S Jones                               Cooper 500cc 1.20

12 J H Robinson                       Jaguar 3442 1.40

13 Seaton Car Sales (Driver P B Seaton) Maserati 1494 1.40

14 T N Sulman                         Maserati 1496 1.40

15 I K Mountain                        Peugeot Special 1490 1.40

16 R Bland                               Dixon/Riley 2000 1.40

17 B Wilcox                              Ford 4200 1.40

60 E W Gray                            Tornado (Blank) 1.40

19 J Masling                             Jaguar Special 3500 1.45

20 H Brydon                             MG TC Special 1250 1.45

21 Barclay Motors Pty Ltd (Driver C James) MG TC Special 1250 1.45

62 H Binnie                              MG Racing 1350 1.45

22 K W G Moy                         Holden-Magnette 2440 1.55

23 D Wright                             Citroen 1991 2.05

24 L G Deithe                          Standard VR1 2088 2.05

37 J Hall                                   Bugi/Holden 2071 2.05

25 S N Miller                            Austin Healey 2660 2.30

26 D Whiteford                        Triumph TR2 2100 2.30  

35 J Lefoe                               Triumph TR R’ster 1991 2.40

27 N F Barnes                         MG TC 1347 2.40

47 G Greig                              Austin Healey 2660 2.40

28 P J Kelly                             Ron Reid Special 3554 2.40

29 J H Roche (Driver J Green) MG TC 1250 2.55  

30 J Ralstone                           MG TC 1350 3.10

31 J Peek                                 MG Q 746 3.10

32 T A Barrett                          MG Sports 1250 3.45

33 H Thompson                       HRG 1496 3.45

 

And the beast you ask about is mentioned in JM's response as the Robinson Jaguar special.

 

 

Stephen



#7 MarkBisset

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 09:03

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MG TF boys, same year I guess? Corner below? 
 

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#8 Ray Bell

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 10:11

Mrs.Mutton's, surely?

 

Are there any pics of Ian Mountain?



#9 cooper997

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 11:59

Looks more like Speet's Bend with the flowing circuit shown in that photo.

 

 

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#10 Ray Bell

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 12:10

Now seriously re-aligned...

 

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#11 MarkBisset

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 21:45

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Tornado 1 Ford @ the SouPac meeting in 1955, the ‘spankers machines race debut (unattributed)

I’ve never seen the car in colour before, ain’t she bold and brassy

 

RIP @ Mount Panorama that October of course

 

We need Ian Mayberry’s help as to the whom 

 

https://primotipo.co...nados-ted-gray/

 

And Tornado 2 at Gnoo Blas a couple of years later;

 

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Edited by MarkBisset, 15 October 2020 - 21:51.


#12 Ray Bell

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 22:33

I feel sure that's Ted Gray holding the steering wheel...

 

Perhaps Lou Abrahams at the rear of the car.

 

Those cylinder heads eventually disappeared and the patterns were discarded...



#13 Catalina Park

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Posted 16 October 2020 - 07:30

Those cylinder heads eventually disappeared and the patterns were discarded...

Those cylinder heads are dead ringers for Arduns. 



#14 Ray Bell

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Posted 16 October 2020 - 11:01

Dead ringers indeed...

 

But built by Abrahams.



#15 2Bob

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Posted 16 October 2020 - 22:07

Back to the Tourers:

 

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#16 MarkBisset

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Posted 17 October 2020 - 06:17

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Beetle taxi for 2Bobs, (unattributed)...

 

it’s in the batch of 1955 shots so probably that year, number 76 by the look of it 

 

http://www.clubvw.org.au/history

 

 

 

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#17 2Bob

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Posted 17 October 2020 - 23:38

 

Back to the Tourers:

 

My photos by the way.  As a 15 year old with a father into photography, and me into cars, he bought me a 10 shilling second hand Purma camera.  The Purma had a spring loaded focal plane shutter which when helped by gravity holding it one way up had a 'shutter' speed of 1/500th sec.  Held opposite way up 125/sec (I think, never used that way up) and in between ways up 250/sec or thereabouts.  Quite ingenious really.



#18 MarkBisset

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 22:06

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2Bob,

Stephen found a ‘cache’ of 1960 ATCC shots @ Gnoo Blas on Flickr a while back, popped some up just in case some may have not seen them, David Kelsey is the photographer in all cases
 

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#19 Ray Bell

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 22:37

Is that Peter Wherrett behind David in the third pic?

 

He would surely have been present that day.



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#20 MarkBisset

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 23:37

I’ve got my money on you Ray,

same bloke in the last shot ‘veeing’ his nose

young enough isn’t he?
m



#21 Ray Bell

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Posted 19 October 2020 - 04:27

He never actually got to be old...

 

I've sent the pics to someone who would know.



#22 cooper997

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Posted 19 October 2020 - 11:18

Most of the Kelsey photos were discussed on the linked page 3 years ago. Including Peter Wherrett ID by wagons46.

https://forums.autos...art-two/page-32

 

 

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#23 Ray Bell

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Posted 23 October 2020 - 09:45

This photo has plenty of interest...

 

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The people surrounding the cars provide that. I'm sure that would be Fred Pearce to the right trying to look shorter than he really is, I have no idea who he's talking to.

 

And I'd reckon that's Tom Sulman with back to camera and the rolled up trousers.



#24 Ray Bell

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Posted 27 October 2020 - 03:52

No further guesses on the back of the driver above?

 

Ken Devine has sent two pics of Ian Mountain's car from 1955:

 

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This was a very neat little Special built largely around Peugeot 203 parts.

 

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A closer look at the same pic I believe it's possible that is Laurel Mountain there with Ian talking to her (she seems to be concentrating on him).

 

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The wrecked car, supercharger very much in evidence.

 



#25 Porsche718

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Posted 12 August 2022 - 12:26

Thought I'd revive this thread as I'm doing some research on the 1960 ATCC Jaguar Mk 1s.

 

We have David McKay in his new car, this being its' first race. Bill Pitt, also in a new car that had at least had a test day at Lowood. Lastly we had Ron Hodgson in the only race proven car, McKays previous "Grey Pussy". This car had now been fitted with a 3.8 engine developed from a Mk 7 block by the Hodgson team.

 

McKay's new car is red with two yellow stripes representing his new sponsor Shell's corporate colours. Of course at this stage no "advertising" was allowed on race cars in Australia. McKay had previously done the same with "Grey Pussy" with the blue, red and white coloured stripes of his previous Ampol sponsor. Hodgson had changed these to green and gold stripes.

 

I have queries as to the circumstances that caused McKay to stop racing the grey car, and did he purchase the "red" Mk 1, or did he do another "deal" and have Shell purchase the car for him to race as Ampol had done with the grey Jaguar? Also, was McKay's 3.4 a Works prepared car as the grey girl had been, and as was Bill Pitt's?

 

From my research I have come to the following understanding -

 

McKay approached Ampol about them purchasing a Works prepared car for him under their sponsorship deal, to which they agreed. The car was ordered via Brysons in Sydney. The car came of the production line in July of 1958. The competition department took another six week to complete the race preparations including a straight port cylinder head and D-type cams but the compression ratio was left near standard due to suspect fuel quality in Australia.

 

McKay picked the car up in England in early September, did a quick European run, then shipped the car to Oz ready for the late season meeting at Albert Park. Various sources quote that McKay only raced the car in seven or eight events between October 1958 and March 1959 when Ampol decided to withdraw their sponsorship in April of 1959. McKay needed to source another 3.4 as Ampol refused to sell Grey Pussy to him.

 

My problem is, quite a number of sources INCLUDING past owners, and the current owner, all quote that Ampol ceased sponsorship in March of 1960 which I feel has to be wrong. The articles concerned don't seem to be a "cut and paste" style of journalism, but perhaps they have got information from one original source that has got things wrong.

 

The other issue is that these sources I have seen also say that two Works cars, came out of the competition department bound for Australia in 1958. But Pitt's car can only have come to Oz 12 months later.

 

Some of my Jaguar reference material confirm my thoughts as Lofty England only prepared five 3.4s during 1959, one of which came to Australia. Logically Pitt's car. Or was it the McKay replacement car?

 

So my questions - 

 

1. I am correct in April 1959 as being the date of Ampol's withdrawal from sponsoring McKay?

2. April 1960 cannot be correct as Hodgson already had "Grey Pussy" and had run number of meetings during the latter part of 1959. Yes?

3. Was McKay's car Works prepared?

4. Did McKay, or Shell purchase the car?

5. When did Pitt's car come to Oz?

 

Just some queries to keep us all busy.

 

Thanks guys.


Edited by Porsche718, 12 August 2022 - 12:30.


#26 Dick Willis

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Posted 12 August 2022 - 20:44

No further guesses on the back of the driver above?

 

Ken Devine has sent two pics of Ian Mountain's car from 1955:

 

1020fr-KDv-Mountaingnooblas.jpg

This was a very neat little Special built largely around Peugeot 203 parts.

 

1020fr-KDv-Mountaingnooblascl.jpg

A closer look at the same pic I believe it's possible that is Laurel Mountain there with Ian talking to her (she seems to be concentrating on him).

 

1020fr-KDv-Mountaincrashed.jpg
The wrecked car, supercharger very much in evidence.

 

The good news is that 67 years after that horrific accident the Ian Mountain car has now been restored and running. It has made a few appearances on display at appropriate events and Ian Mountain's family have seen it but it is my intention to take it to the Gnoo Blas celebrations next year.



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Posted 13 August 2022 - 10:59

Thought I'd revive this thread as I'm doing some research on the 1960 ATCC Jaguar Mk 1s.

 

We have David McKay in his new car, this being its' first race. Bill Pitt, also in a new car that had at least had a test day at Lowood. Lastly we had Ron Hodgson in the only race proven car, McKays previous "Grey Pussy". This car had now been fitted with a 3.8 engine developed from a Mk 7 block by the Hodgson team.

 

McKay's new car is red with two yellow stripes representing his new sponsor Shell's corporate colours. Of course at this stage no "advertising" was allowed on race cars in Australia. McKay had previously done the same with "Grey Pussy" with the blue, red and white coloured stripes of his previous Ampol sponsor. Hodgson had changed these to green and gold stripes.

 

I have queries as to the circumstances that caused McKay to stop racing the grey car, and did he purchase the "red" Mk 1, or did he do another "deal" and have Shell purchase the car for him to race as Ampol had done with the grey Jaguar? Also, was McKay's 3.4 a Works prepared car as the grey girl had been, and as was Bill Pitt's?

 

From my research I have come to the following understanding -

 

McKay approached Ampol about them purchasing a Works prepared car for him under their sponsorship deal, to which they agreed. The car was ordered via Brysons in Sydney. The car came of the production line in July of 1958. The competition department took another six week to complete the race preparations including a straight port cylinder head and D-type cams but the compression ratio was left near standard due to suspect fuel quality in Australia.

 

McKay picked the car up in England in early September, did a quick European run, then shipped the car to Oz ready for the late season meeting at Albert Park. Various sources quote that McKay only raced the car in seven or eight events between October 1958 and March 1959 when Ampol decided to withdraw their sponsorship in April of 1959. McKay needed to source another 3.4 as Ampol refused to sell Grey Pussy to him.

 

My problem is, quite a number of sources INCLUDING past owners, and the current owner, all quote that Ampol ceased sponsorship in March of 1960 which I feel has to be wrong. The articles concerned don't seem to be a "cut and paste" style of journalism, but perhaps they have got information from one original source that has got things wrong.

 

The other issue is that these sources I have seen also say that two Works cars, came out of the competition department bound for Australia in 1958. But Pitt's car can only have come to Oz 12 months later.

 

Some of my Jaguar reference material confirm my thoughts as Lofty England only prepared five 3.4s during 1959, one of which came to Australia. Logically Pitt's car. Or was it the McKay replacement car?

 

So my questions - 

 

1. I am correct in April 1959 as being the date of Ampol's withdrawal from sponsoring McKay?

2. April 1960 cannot be correct as Hodgson already had "Grey Pussy" and had run number of meetings during the latter part of 1959. Yes?

3. Was McKay's car Works prepared?

4. Did McKay, or Shell purchase the car?

5. When did Pitt's car come to Oz?

 

Just some queries to keep us all busy.

 

Thanks guys.

 

July 9, 1958 Australian Motor News quotes David McKay off on a 12 week Ampol sponsored trip to the UK. He picked up the grey car at Browns Lane September 4, 1958. First raced October 1958 Bathurst AGP meeting.

 

There was a Brisbane Court case over the Ampol sponsorship involving CAMS in the run up to April 1959 Lowood meeting. So Ampol ended up selling the grey Mk1 UWK 68 / BRR 030 to Hodgson.

 

The second McKay book covers these cars in the first 10 or so pages. He put a proposal to Jack Bryson of a 50/50 arrangement for the second red Mk1 quoted as works prepared after Bryson cabled Lofty England. David, no doubt already knowing his 50 percent would be from A N Other. The Westco Anderson/Pitt BRG car was a sister car both apparently arrived in Australia together very late 1959 (around or after Christmas??).

 

The second McKay car being the one Bill Burns destroyed at Longford in 1964, google for the 'Long weekend at Longford' for the demise of the car.

 

 

Stephen



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Posted 13 August 2022 - 22:40

Thanks Stephen,

 

Wonderful info.

 

The inference I'd heard is that David tried to buy the grey car from Ampol but they refused as they knew Shell was going to sponsor McKay. They didn't want their car going straight into some form of Shell colours.

 

Do you know if the court case was as a result of the Ampol colours being applied to the grey Jag? With perhaps McKay standing his ground to both parties and refusing to remove them?

 

I know that Hodgson quickly painted the stripes green and gold, which he tongue in cheek claimed represented his business interest colours.

 

What surprises me are the errors that continued with the history of the car.

 

Considering the quality of the current owners, I would have thought the incorrect dates of changeover of ownership from Ampol to Hodgson would have been noticed, researched and corrected. Perhaps I'm just being pedantic! (My wife will probably confirm that!!!).

 

Initially the Competition Department had set down four cars for 1959. One for the John Coombs team, one for Equipe Endeavour, one for Briggs Cunningham, and one to keep. They later completed a fifth cars destined for Australia. My assumption would be the "Australian" car, and the car they intended to keep, were the McKay red car, and Bill Pitt's.

 

I love this stuff. (I gotta get out more!)

 

Steve


Edited by Porsche718, 13 August 2022 - 22:41.


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Posted 14 August 2022 - 00:28

Donald K Thomson from CAMS was the one who went hunting Ampol. But David was more worried he'd end up with a CAMS licence ban. The Brisbane case was represented by McKay's brother Tom, they won. But Ampol decided they had done well with this promotion and didn't want David in the same car with another sponsor. Hence it going to Hodgson, who as far as I can work out had the green/gold stripes to represent Castrol.

 

David is entered in the April 1959 Lowood QTCC meeting programme. I haven't checked reports, but his SV book suggests not running, based on Ampol not wanting to fund the trip. Ron Hodgson was in the grey car at the August Lowood

 

The 1959 and 1960 CAMS manuals shows W L (Bill) Pitt on CAMS National Control Council member (as was Bib Stillwell) and the 1960 edition, as President. Not trying  to suggest Bill was the one pushing the barrow. But there must have been some comms, even though Bill and David would race against each other in D Type and DB3S when the CAMS battle was on.

 

McKay tried to persuade Shell to sponsor the purchase of what became the Leaton/Matich Lotus 15. He couldn't convince enough of the Shell board for the funds. Then tried to get Leaton Motors to pay for it. They did, but put Frank, their salesman in the seat.

 

So then David tried Castrol for money for the red Mk1, they agreed. So the red car represents Castrol not Shell.  

 

Those smart Trove operators may find more in Brisbane court records/ newspapers?

 

 

Stephen


Edited by cooper997, 14 August 2022 - 07:13.


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Posted 14 August 2022 - 04:06

The Ampol and CAMS dispute was due to the Ampol Trial (car rally).

After Redex pulled out of sponsoring the Round Australia Trials the organising club, the 'Australian Sporting Car Club' took on Ampol sponsorship.
But CAMS wanted their share of the glory and the Mobilgas Trial was created.

Ampol was a dirty word within CAMS for many years.



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Posted 14 August 2022 - 04:43

A quick word search in my AMS file sees the Mobilgas and Ampol Trials starting about the same time in 1956, up to 1970 for the later.

 

I can only surmise that a court win by McKay/Ampol added fuel to the fire. (pun intended).

 

As you'd be aware Michael, BMC were banned by CAMS' DKT too for 1962 Austin Freeway BMC Round Oz (private Trial) related advertising matters. The connecting factor being the highly talented Evan Green, who worked with both companies and if IIRC invented the Ampol stripes on the McKay 'grey pussy' Mk1 Jaguar.

 

 

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Posted 14 August 2022 - 05:09

Evan Green was also involved with the Australian Sporting Car Club too. Glad he learned his lesson and never did anything controversial again. 

While looking stuff up on Trove I also see that the 1962 Bathurst 6 hour race was originally going to be called the 'Ampol 6-Hour Classic' until DKT found a way to drive a wedge.



#33 cooper997

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Posted 14 August 2022 - 07:09

Michael, Any chance of the link to that Trove page please?

 

 

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Posted 14 August 2022 - 11:06

The 1962 Bathurst Ampol story..
https://trove.nla.go...ticle/131776766

Another interesting one...
https://trove.nla.go...ticle/131661456
 



#35 cooper997

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Posted 14 August 2022 - 12:43

Michael, thank you for these links.

 

 

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#36 Ray Bell

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Posted 14 August 2022 - 13:35

I see the paper continued the mistaken identity of the letters, "NCC"...

 

They stand for "National Council of the CAMS".



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Posted 15 August 2022 - 01:13

Ray, I suspect correct for the era concerned in that newspaper piece. They (CAMS) obvioiusly changed the meaning of NCC along the way. I have 1959, 60 & 61 manuals with "National Control Council" (hence as typed in post 29). But then jump to 1967 with "The National Council of C.A.M.S, 1967" Someone with access to manuals in between or a scratch through RCN or other, may reveal the time it changed.

 

 

Stephen


Edited by cooper997, 15 August 2022 - 01:14.


#38 Catalina Park

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Posted 15 August 2022 - 05:30

I think my second newspaper link may be the clue, it was the "National Communist Committee".



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Posted 15 August 2022 - 09:05

From the 1960 ATCC programme 'Personalities in the Pits' page.

 

"BILL PITT and DAVID McKAY have just recently acquired two 3.8 Jaguars. This will be their first outing in them, but both drivers have had many years' experience at the wheels of fast cars."

and...

"One of the fastest and most colourful personalities in motor racing is RON HODGSON, who is driving another 3.8 Jaguar. In the past few months Ron has been installing many more "go fasts" on his car so I tip this car as a likely winner of the Championship."

 

 

Stephen


Edited by cooper997, 15 August 2022 - 09:53.


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#40 Porsche718

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Posted 15 August 2022 - 10:32

... except they weren't 3.8s!



#41 Ray Bell

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Posted 15 August 2022 - 11:30

In fact, right to the very end, Bill Burns' car was a 3.4...



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Posted 21 August 2022 - 01:51

I really wanted to put this David McKay-written Jaguar-related feature into a McKay-titled TNF thread, but of the 4 my search gave up, none seemed appropriate. So here it is...

 

This feature buries the September 4th date I quoted in post 27 of this thread. That was found last week in Australian Jaguar issue 55. However, despite me thinking at the time David must have flown the car in to be at Bathurst, it's plainly wrong date. As you will hopefully read David picked up the 3.4 on a Friday and then went off to the Nurburgring for the German GP. So that makes it August 3, 1958 for Nurburgring and very likely August 1 when he picked it up.

 

Reminds me why I prefer to go for period source material.

 

1958-Modern-Motor-Mc-Kay-Jaguar-01.jpg

 

1958-Modern-Motor-Mc-Kay-Jaguar-02.jpg

 

1958-Modern-Motor-Mc-Kay-Jaguar-03.jpg

 

 

attribution; Oct 58 Modern Motor

 

 

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Posted 21 August 2022 - 03:01

Great article,

 

Thanks Stephen



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Posted 21 August 2022 - 03:20

Thanks Stephen,

enjoyed that.

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