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#1 Anja

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 12:59

Will Giovinazzi keep improving and challenging Kimi? Will Kimi keep finding motivation to race even longer? Will Kubica's arrival help in developing the car? Here's a thread for all your non-car Alfa-related discussions.



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#2 andyz

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 17:47

Yes! :cool:



#3 hansmann

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 22:33

Will Giovinazzi keep improving and challenging Kimi? 

 

He better .
He made fairly decent improvements in late 2019, let's see  how it goes .

 

 

 

 

Will Kimi keep finding motivation to race even longer?

 

You'd have to ask Kimi .
You are suggesting he isn't motivated, what are you basing that on ?

 

 

 

 

Will Kubica's arrival help in developing the car?

 

Not even a little bit .

Kubica couldn't assist in developing his own car at Williams, let alone help the team - quite the opposite .

He's a cash cow .


Edited by hansmann, 12 February 2020 - 22:39.


#4 Anja

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 22:39

You are suggesting he isn't motivated, what are you basing that on ?

 

Not at all. If anything I'm surprised he's still motivated to drive for a midfield team - a few years ago I'd never have thought he would continue without a top car. I just wonder how much longer will he want to stay. 


Edited by Anja, 12 February 2020 - 22:39.


#5 pitlanepalpatine

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 06:14

Has Kimi ever been motivated? I'm pretty sure he's only shown up to work the last 20 years because he thought driving the cars was fun.

 

I think the most interesting part of the Sauber campaign is the silly season question over the Ferrari juniors.



#6 JRodrigues

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Posted 18 February 2020 - 11:12

And so it begins.. Kubia will be the only test driver to get mileage on this week tests, taking lead driver's track time.



#7 Gemini

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Posted 18 February 2020 - 11:28

And so it begins.. Kubia will be the only test driver to get mileage on this week tests, taking lead driver's track time.

 

 

Did you missed your morning coffe? He is going to be in car for 4 hours, before morning till lunch tomorrow. I doubt they will do any serious work during first 4 hours of six day test. It's just the PR time to please sponsor...



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Posted 18 February 2020 - 11:49

Still Nico Rosberg did what he did at Carting because Kubica set his car up.

Good thing that Kubica drives for the team with lesser motivated young drivers.



#9 JRodrigues

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Posted 18 February 2020 - 12:19

Did you missed your morning coffe? He is going to be in car for 4 hours, before morning till lunch tomorrow. I doubt they will do any serious work during first 4 hours of six day test. It's just the PR time to please sponsor...

 

With 2 days less for testing, it is fundamental that LEAD drivers get more time in the car.



#10 pitlanepalpatine

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Posted 18 February 2020 - 12:30

What'll be concerning is if there's an issue will they go overboard trying to facilitate the sponsor or will that be the end of it.



#11 Baddoer

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Posted 18 February 2020 - 12:45

Come on, don't plague this thread with Kubica non-sense.

 

It's now vodka time. Presumably with some pasta.



#12 Vesuvius

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Posted 18 February 2020 - 13:13

Did you missed your morning coffe? He is going to be in car for 4 hours, before morning till lunch tomorrow. I doubt they will do any serious work during first 4 hours of six day test. It's just the PR time to please sponsor...


He will likely do a session next week as well and some friday running during season.

#13 Vesuvius

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Posted 18 February 2020 - 13:15

Has Kimi ever been motivated? I'm pretty sure he's only shown up to work the last 20 years because he thought driving the cars was fun.

I think the most interesting part of the Sauber campaign is the silly season question over the Ferrari juniors.


He has.

#14 Victor_RO

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Posted 18 February 2020 - 14:19

Livery teaser: https://twitter.com/...756911777714176

 

With a special message to all fans who tried to blow up brightness/luminosity on the picture to try to see more of it.  :rotfl: 

 

Masterful trolling. I tip my hat to Alfa's PR person.  :lol:



#15 Beri

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Posted 18 February 2020 - 14:46

Haha well done Alfa

#16 derstatic

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Posted 18 February 2020 - 18:48

Prediction based on OP. Gio will make it close in qualifying. Old man will score 70%+ of Alfa's points. 



#17 messy

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Posted 18 February 2020 - 18:53

I think Giovinazzi will do much better this year. The underlying pace was always there last season but in other ways he had a bit of a disaster and was quite lucky to keep his drive - but the rate of improvement late in the season and skill he clearly showed in GP2 tells me that he’s quite likely to eclipse Kimi soon. I suspect he’ll be ahead of Kimi more often than not in 2020.

#18 TheGoldenStoffel

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Posted 18 February 2020 - 19:32

Livery teaser: https://twitter.com/...756911777714176

 

With a special message to all fans who tried to blow up brightness/luminosity on the picture to try to see more of it.  :rotfl:

 

Masterful trolling. I tip my hat to Alfa's PR person.  :lol:

Nice one!  :p

 

Would expect the livery to be the same as last year but black instead of the white



#19 Starish

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Posted 18 February 2020 - 23:25

I really hope the team improves from a management stand point also, a lot of silly mistakes such as putting wrong tyres on and getting penalties and clutch issues cost the team. 



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#20 hansmann

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 15:36

I think Giovinazzi will do much better this year. The underlying pace was always there last season but in other ways he had a bit of a disaster and was quite lucky to keep his drive - but the rate of improvement late in the season and skill he clearly showed in GP2 tells me that he’s quite likely to eclipse Kimi soon. I suspect he’ll be ahead of Kimi more often than not in 2020.

 

I'm not so sure about Giovinazzi getting the better of Kimi in 2020, I fully agree on his significant improvements in 2019 though .

2021 might reshuffle the deck with the new regulations, tyres, etc .

 

But this year, a driver of Kimi's experience and skill, in a midfield car, is very hard to beat , I think .



#21 PedroDiCasttro

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 17:11

Very nice from Kubica today, he still has the pace.



#22 Vesuvius

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 17:49

Very nice from Kubica today, he still has the pace.


Didn't he do his time on softest compound? Anyway his time is ok for his pace and hope it's a good sign that the car is good.

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 18:13

Didn't he do his time on softest compound? Anyway his time is ok for his pace and hope it's a good sign that the car is good.

Well again I wouldnt look at times at all during the testing ( know we all do like to look at them though :D), more important that the cars gets as many km under it as possible. I expect the gaps in the midfield to be rather small again so we only know how much pace the car really has in Melbourne.

Ofc Im interested to hear after this first week how the car is handling around the track compared to the others.

As for Gio vs Kimi, hopefully Gio is able to perform atleast on the level he did during 2nd half of 2019, but I would still expect Kimi to be the one brining in most of the points. In quali battle however it might even be possible for Gio to beat Kimi.



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Posted 19 February 2020 - 18:59

Didn't he do his time on softest compound? Anyway his time is ok for his pace and hope it's a good sign that the car is good.

He did his best time on C3, as did Giovinazzi.



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Posted 19 February 2020 - 20:08

Its worth to note that RK did 1.18.883 on hards (C1) before launch break.
So theres quite alot more pace in C39 than final results would suggest.
Modfield is gonna be very tight.

#26 hansmann

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Posted 21 February 2020 - 16:17

Its worth to note that RK did 1.18.883 on hards (C1) before launch break.
So theres quite alot more pace in C39 than final results would suggest.
Modfield is gonna be very tight.

 

Is it really going to be like that, again ?

Kubica isn't exactly benchmark material, yet here we go ...



#27 MaGiK

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Posted 21 February 2020 - 18:10

Like what?

You obviously totally missinterprated my post.

I wasnt trying make any point about Kubica at all.

I only suggested that solid laptimes on hard tyre mean that the C39 has potential.

Whats with your obsession about RK or his fans? :p <j/k>



#28 hansmann

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Posted 22 February 2020 - 20:19

Like what?

You obviously totally missinterprated my post.

I wasnt trying make any point about Kubica at all.

I only suggested that solid laptimes on hard tyre mean that the C39 has potential.

Whats with your obsession about RK or his fans? :p <j/k>

 

Sorry about that, still recovering from last season .. ;)



#29 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 22 February 2020 - 20:55

Has Kimi ever been motivated? I'm pretty sure he's only shown up to work the last 20 years because he thought driving the cars was fun.

 

I think the most interesting part of the Sauber campaign is the silly season question over the Ferrari juniors.

 

That to me is the very definition of motivation, doing it for the fun of it, not for the fortune and fame.

 

:cool: