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[Risil]

midgrid, on 22 Apr 2020 - 19:20, said:

The Benetton green-Bitburger yellow clash is horrible.

 

Don't forget the Mild Seven cyan too! An abomination.

 

Oddly enough the Camel yellow / Benetton green on the previous year's Benetton wasn't quite so offensive.

[TomNokoe]

Second-leg! Hopefully it doesn't go to away goals.

[Risil]

Mika Salo! This must be something like his F1 debut.

[Risil]

There should be more figure-8 tracks.

[Bleu]

Risil, on 22 Apr 2020 - 19:24, said:

There should be more figure-8 tracks.

 

There's only one other used in the World Championship history. Do you know what it is?

 

Answer below.

 

Monza when they had full circuit which included normal circuit and then the oval lap. 

[Risil]

Nice of Jonathan Palmer to laud Schumacher for bouncing back from Jos Verstappen catching fire.

[SophieB]

midgrid, on 22 Apr 2020 - 19:20, said:

The Benetton green-Bitburger yellow clash is horrible.

 
it’s like watching the pretty blue butterfly it would later become in the Mild Seven era get half stuck in the chrysalis stage.

[midgrid]

Ferrari V12 sound!

[PayasYouRace]

Bleu, on 22 Apr 2020 - 19:28, said:

There's only one other used in the World Championship history. Do you know what it is?

 

 

 

Though the answer you gave is a folded figure of eight. So whereas at Suzuka over the course of a lap you rotate by 0 degrees overall, at that example, you rotate by 720 degrees in one lap.

[PayasYouRace]

This Mansell/Alesi battle is pretty good to be fair.

[ANF]

I keep forgetting these Wednesday races.

[Risil]

This Mansell-Alesi battle is worth the price of admission!

[TomNokoe]

Lest we forget the championship situation... If Schumacher wins he takes a 9 point lead to Adelaide, if Hill wins it's down to a single point!

[PayasYouRace]

If the Renault engine had a tad more power, Mansell would be away.

[Risil]

Cars with different characteristics make for good racing.

[Risil]

The TV director always switches to the Alesi onboard too late!

[midgrid]

F1TV should have the entire race from that camera as bonus footage.

[Risil]

Amazing how Alesi finished his career with one victory. He added so much to F1 in the 1990s.

[PayasYouRace]

I miss that long pit lane entrance before the chicane at Suzuka.

[Risil]

That was a very succinct explanation of Ernst Degner's significance to Japanese motorcycle design that Murray Walker delivered in one breath.

[midgrid]

Irvine (?) passing Häkkinen into Dunlop in the background!

[SophieB]

‘Off with his Tyrrell’, as the Red Queen might have once said.

[PayasYouRace]

Really visible glowing brakes on the Williams into Spoon there. Beautiful.

[Risil]

Weird to see Zanardi in F1.

[PayasYouRace]

Risil, on 22 Apr 2020 - 18:46, said:

They've not got the typesetting right for the 1994 on-screen graphics, have they?

 

Just remembered this video on the subject.

 

[midgrid]

The second Benetton has finished in the points on just four occasions and yet the team are leading the WCC going into this event.

[PayasYouRace]

midgrid, on 22 Apr 2020 - 19:57, said:

The second Benetton has finished in the points on just four occasions and yet the team are leading the WCC going into this event.

 

But the second Williams had only finished in the points 5 times and had started one less race too.

[Risil]

It's David Coulthard!

[garoidb]

Risil, on 22 Apr 2020 - 18:48, said:

Because F1 was very anal about driver numbers in those days and you couldn't be car 1 unless you'd won the championship the year before. Alain Prost was 1993 world champion and retired so Williams got 0 and 2.

 

Interestingly, provided you find this kind of thing interesting, something similar happened in Indycar when Jacques Villeneuve departed with the championship in 1995. His team got the number 1 for 1996 so JV's replacement Raul Boesel ran it instead.

 

Hill was #0 in 1993 as well, with Mansell having left F1 as the reigning champion. Had Williams run #1, it would have been for Prost and then Senna. I suspect neither of them wanted to, but also didn't like #0. Funnily enough, it became associated with Damon in a quirky way,  somewhat like Mansell and "Red 5". It is strange to see Nigel in "Red 2" here. 

 

Edited to add: Ronnie Peterson used #1 in 1974 after Jackie Stewart retired, so there was a precedent for the reigning constructors champions using #1 for their lead driver if the actual WDC had retired or left F1 for some reason.

 

Edited again: John Watson drove with #1 in the 1985 European Grand Prix at Brands Hatch, standing in for the WDC Niki Lauda who had hurt his wrist in a crash at Spa.

Edited by garoidb, 22 April 2020 - 20:10.

[midgrid]

PayasYouRace, on 22 Apr 2020 - 19:59, said:

But the second Williams had only finished in the points 5 times and had started one less race too.

Yes, it just goes to show what a two-horse race this season was.

[midgrid]

garoidb, on 22 Apr 2020 - 20:01, said:

Hill was #0 in 1993 as well, with Mansell having left F1 as the reigning champion. Had Williams run #1, it would have been for Prost and then Senna. I suspect neither of them wanted to, but also didn't like #0. Funnily enough, it became associated with Damon in a quirky way, somewhat like Mansell and "Red 5". It is strange to see Nigel in "Red 2" here.

Red Two Will Pass You!

[Bleu]

midgrid, on 22 Apr 2020 - 19:57, said:

The second Benetton has finished in the points on just four occasions and yet the team are leading the WCC going into this event.

 

Williams haven't had much help either. Senna didn't score in his three races, Mansell has failed to finish his two races so far, DC has one podium and some other point-finishes.

[Risil]

Where did Ford take their money after Benetton switched to Renault power in 1995? Sauber?

[Bleu]

Risil, on 22 Apr 2020 - 20:09, said:

Where did Ford take their money after Benetton switched to Renault power in 1995? Sauber?

 

Yes, Sauber had their factory support for two years and then it was Stewart.

[midgrid]

Yay, vintage picture break-up!

[PayasYouRace]

Well there goes the picture.

[PayasYouRace]

I just can't imagine David Croft throwing in a line about the Ascaris like Murray just did.

[Risil]

Normally someone realizes that there's no picture but here Murray just kept going throughout the whole lack of images.

[SophieB]

Terrific. I have been watching this race for what seems like ten years and the one bit of action happened while the picture was broke.

[Risil]

Hey, it's a Larrousse!

[PayasYouRace]

This is a tense time attack sort of situation that we don't really see in F1 any more.

[Risil]

This race could do with those split timing graphics they developed later.

[PayasYouRace]

Mansell and Alesi at it again. 

[Augurk]

What is this white stuff they are driving in? Looks a bit like smoke. 

[midgrid]

Comas past Zanardi!

[Risil]

PayasYouRace, on 22 Apr 2020 - 20:29, said:

This is a tense time attack sort of situation that we don't really see in F1 any more.

 

I remember a glorious World Superbike race, perhaps Valencia in 2010, where there was an early red flag for a crash and Noriyuki Haga won a three-way aggregate tussle with Carlos Checa and Max Biaggi. I think a quarter-second split the three in the end.

 

But yeah, aside from the Isle of Man TT it's not a genre of race we see anymore.

[Risil]

Schumacher is going for this now. This is definitely a last-five-laps kind of race.

[Risil]

Schumacher should've got another race ban for that backwards baseball cap Briatore is wearing.

[PayasYouRace]

That was a hell of a last lap.

[TomNokoe]

THREE POINT THREE SIX SECONDS!

Mansell and Alesi still going at it, to no avail Nigel, Jean still gets you on aggregate lol, Murray losing his mind