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Indycar 1995 WatchParty Round 13: The Marlboro 500 (Start 6pm BST Sunday)


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#101 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 17:53

Michigan TV broadcasts have a particular rhythm, don't they. Lead change - retirement - interview - retirement - interview - lead change - retirement - interview etc.



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#102 ANF

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 17:54

A lot of traffic for Tracy and Pruett.

#103 FLB

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 17:54

The Duel has begun.



#104 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 17:55

FLB, on 21 Jun 2020 - 17:36, said:

And I've also wondered what kind of race Unser, Jr. would have had at Indy in 1995 if he'd qualified.

 

From Jack Arute's comments just now, sounds like Al thought he had a really good chance. Given what the race was like, if he'd had half decent race pace he could've won.



#105 FLB

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 17:56

Jon Beekhuis was already doing this???



#106 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 17:58

Teo's not making his tyres last. Bad Teo.



#107 FLB

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 17:58

Risil, on 21 Jun 2020 - 17:58, said:

Teo's not making his tyres last.

There's a Tire War going on... ;)



#108 GlenWatkins

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 17:59

FLB, on 21 Jun 2020 - 17:56, said:

Jon Beekhuis was already doing this???

 

Yep, Yawn has been reporting from the pits for a long time!  Following in Chris Economaki's footsteps no doubt!



#109 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:00

Skullduggery! Firestone crew trying to stand in the way of the ABC cameras!



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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:01

Risil, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:00, said:

Skullduggery! Firestone crew trying to stand in the way of the ABC cameras!

 

How dare they!



#111 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:01

Lots of green flag running so far.



#112 FLB

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:01

Sam just called it Classic racing.

 

Spoiler



#113 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:02

GlenWatkins, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:01, said:

How dare they!

 

Reminds me of how Christian Horner used to send out a crew of firesuited Red Bull toughs to shield Adrian Newey's latest gadget from view.



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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:03

FLB, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:01, said:

Sam just called it Classic racing.

 

All you need is to contrive it so 15 cars have a shot at winning!
 



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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:04

Risil, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:02, said:

Reminds me of how Christian Horner used to send out a crew of firesuited Red Bull toughs to shield Adrian Newey's latest gadget from view.

And Porsche pulling the same stunt at Le Mans during the 919 years.



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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:05

FLB, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:04, said:

And Porsche pulling the same stunt at Le Mans during the 919 years.

 

Blame Mark Webber!



#117 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:05

So Andre Ribeiro's just won the Michigan 200, at least.



#118 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:06

Buddy Lazier 12th!



#119 rghojai

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:06

Striking to see how rarely they show how close / far cars are to each other.



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#120 FLB

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:07

Risil, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:03, said:

All you need is to contrive it so 15 cars have a shot at winning!
 

What F1 is missing is a goddamn tire war.



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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:07

rghojai, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:06, said:

Striking to see how rarely they show how close / far cars are to each other.

 

Lots of single-car tracking shots too. Quite disorientating!



#122 FLB

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:09

Salazar is having a race like he had at Indy.



#123 ANF

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:10

Hmm, where is Johansson's onboard camera mounted?

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:10

rghojai, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:06, said:

Striking to see how rarely they show how close / far cars are to each other.

Yeah, but with these cars, the guys can actually *overtake*.



#125 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:12

Mo Gugelmin's race looks run. Or is it another upright change?

 

These Reynards!



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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:13

Risil, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:12, said:

Mo Gugelmin's race looks run. Or is it another upright change?

 

These Reynards!

Sam just agreed with you... without saying so  :kiss:



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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:13

FLB, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:07, said:

What F1 is missing is a goddamn tire war.

could say the same thing for IndyCar  We need more manufacturers.ie: tires, engines and chassis

 

Chassises? chassis's?  What is the plural of chassis anyway?



#128 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:13

We're not at half distance yet but the race has resolved into Ribeiro vs Unser vs Pruett.



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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:14

Risil, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:13, said:

We're not at half distance yet but the race has resolved into Ribeiro vs Unser vs Pruett.



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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:15

Parker has raised the price of poker!!  I pick on Uncle Bobby, but I love the guy!  


Edited by GlenWatkins, 21 June 2020 - 18:16.


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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:16

GlenWatkins, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:13, said:

could say the same thing for IndyCar  We need more manufacturers.ie: tires, engines and chassis

 

Chassises? chassis's?  What is the plural of chassis anyway?

 

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#132 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:16

GlenWatkins, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:13, said:

could say the same thing for IndyCar  We need more manufacturers.ie: tires, engines and chassis

 

Tyres are difficult because no one wants to do the tens of thousands of testing miles necessary. Chassis are difficult because no one wants to rent the windtunnel for days.

 

I'm sure Roger Penske would love a couple more engine manufacturers though.



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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:16

Risil, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:13, said:

We're not at half distance yet but the race has resolved into Ribeiro vs Unser vs Pruett.


Nice jinx.

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:17

FLB, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:14, said:

 

I jinxed Andre good!



#135 FLB

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:17

And that's Ribeiro OUT.



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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:19

I always find it so fascinating when you get a race like this and see just how on the edge of (un)reliability the cars are in order to chase every bit of performance.



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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:19

A whopping 3 cards on the lead lap. Cheever strong!



#138 ANF

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:20

That was the most anticlimatic comeback ever.

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:21

rghojai, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:19, said:

A whopping 3 cards on the lead lap. Cheever strong!

You just need two cars for a good race. The 1982 and 1989 Indy 500s were proof of it.

 

This was another one.



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#140 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:23

Parker takes a perverse joy in describing all the times he nearly killed someone today! Lost an upright and nearly spun into Cheever, lost the brakes and nearly ran into the Penske pit crew...



#141 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:25

A Lola upright breaks this time!



#142 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:25

Yellow! Hiro is out.



#143 FLB

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:25

And Hiro is the first yellow.



#144 ANF

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:25

And there's the first puncture.

#145 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:25

"Boy, look at all the grass he tore up"



#146 paulb

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:26

Who jinxed Hiro?

#147 FLB

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:27

Risil, on 21 Jun 2020 - 18:25, said:

A Lola upright breaks this time!

Tire war going on. Michigan was always hard on CV joints, but he teams were quite agressive on their cambers, particularly on the right rear.



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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:30

Full course caution, the only way they do it on an oval - Page

#149 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:30

Matsushita interview! The ABC pit crew is on fire.



#150 ANF

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Posted 21 June 2020 - 18:31

Greengree