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#101 Alfisti

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:34

This feels like 2013, last 100 laps green and finished on top of each other.

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#102 krapmeister

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:38

Absolutely ragging it

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:42

MalcolmC, on 18 Oct 2020 - 05:40, said:

van Gisbergen to replace Albon? :)


Lol could you imagine that? At least Marko could say SVG was from within the Red Bull family 😅

#104 Alfisti

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:43

You guys listen to the v8 sleuth podcast? Great, insightful interviews, worth a listen.

Waters braking too late, hurting his exits.

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:43

SVG seems to have weathered the initial storm - looking good for the win 👍

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:46

krapmeister, on 18 Oct 2020 - 05:42, said:

Lol could you imagine that? At least Marko could say SVG was from within the Red Bull family

 

Honestly, once he got his head around the hybrid bits, I reckon he'd have a shot at being quite decent in a F1 car.



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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:50

SC!

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:50

Was gonna say if it has to be a kiwis...
And then

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:50

THE LATE SAFETY CAR



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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:51

Looks like 2 separate incidents

#111 Alfisti

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:51

Track bites again. Will get what, 5 or 6 laps?

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:51

Going to be a desperate last 5 laps

#113 Alfisti

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:52

Victor_RO, on 18 Oct 2020 - 05:46, said:

Honestly, once he got his head around the hybrid bits, I reckon he'd have a shot at being quite decent in a F1 car.


He would murder albon, absolutely certain of it.

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:52

Alfisti, on 18 Oct 2020 - 05:51, said:

Track bites again. Will get what, 5 or 6 laps?

 

Two cleanups, one in an awkward place, I reckon 2 or 3 laps at most.



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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:55

Victor_RO, on 18 Oct 2020 - 05:46, said:

Honestly, once he got his head around the hybrid bits, I reckon he'd have a shot at being quite decent in a F1 car.


No questioning him as a driver, but more about how fun it would be to see him going wheel to wheel with the other drivers 🙂

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:56

Mostert back in play though should be between SVG and Waters

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:58

Feel a bit for SVG as he had that one under control

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:59

Elbows out, late in the day

#119 krapmeister

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:59

6 laps

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#120 krapmeister

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:00

A few cars diving into pitlane

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:00

Miss the old Bathurst days when Jim Richards was winning in the Nissan GTR and calling the crowd pack of aholes. 😂👍

Still love watching Bathurst though regardless. Go Waters, nice sprint to the finish!

Edited by gowebber, 18 October 2020 - 06:01.


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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:02

Another SC

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:03

Race control lacking then - could've got the SC out before the cars got to the end of pitlane

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:05

SVG's to lose now

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:06

gowebber, on 18 Oct 2020 - 06:00, said:

Miss the old Bathurst days when Jim Richards was winning in the Nissan GTR and calling the crowd pack of aholes. 😂👍

Still love watching Bathurst though regardless. Go Waters, nice sprint to the finish!


Need a lot more water(s) for that

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:07

MalcolmC, on 18 Oct 2020 - 06:05, said:

Perhaps it was too much of a high speed train to pull out in front of?


Car was stopped up the top before they got to Murray's

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:07

MalcolmC, on 18 Oct 2020 - 06:07, said:

There's still four laps.


Sorry - my attempt at a bad pun!

Edited by krapmeister, 18 October 2020 - 06:08.


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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:08

Going to be 2 laps at the restart I reckon, the car is on the flatbed.



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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:09

3 laps

Edited by krapmeister, 18 October 2020 - 06:09.


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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:09

Apparently I woke up just in time.



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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:14

Shane has got this one I reckon.

 

EDIT: Fastest lap on lap 160, are you kidding me?



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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:15

Tander casually drinking Red Bull 😅

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:18

Lucky they got that trans-tasman bubble going in time for this weekend eh?

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:19

That's a great burnout from Scotty in front of no one 😅

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:20

Fitting farewell for Holden 👍

#136 Alfisti

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:22

Thats the last time we see Scott in a supercar for 10 years.

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:24

I wouldn't be surprised - he's done everything here. Those burnouts look like a farewell to me.

#138 Alfisti

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:27

Yep

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:30

Alfisti, on 18 Oct 2020 - 06:22, said:

Thats the last time we see Scott in a supercar for 10 years.

 

Yeah, I don't think he's coming back until he's won the 500 for Penske.



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#140 OvDrone

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:40

S V G



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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:45

Dammit... went to quote but somehow deleted the post instead.

But was going to say that I got all my wishes for the race - a bit of rain, a farewell Holden victory and also a win for the Giz 👍

Edited by krapmeister, 18 October 2020 - 06:45.


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Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:52

This race at the end had such a good feeling about it. I think this is how the year ends.

 

Last race and win for Holden at the biggest race of the year. Shane finally doing it. Tander getting a 4th win. Intense race long battle. McLaughlin giving the best donuts I've seen in ages as well as seeing the realization on his face and for the team that this chapter is closing and a brand new amazing adventure is on it's way for Scotty as well as them.

 

I was too tired and needed sleep here in Europe-time but watched the race here and there throughout the night.

Congrats to the series and teams for making this possible, as there were some bleak days during this championship and I loved every minute of watching it. Cheers.


Edited by OvDrone, 18 October 2020 - 06:54.


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Posted 18 October 2020 - 07:38

OvDrone, on 18 Oct 2020 - 06:52, said:

Congrats to the series and teams for making this possible, as there were some bleak days during this championship and I loved every minute of watching it. Cheers.

 

Yeah, everyone was unanimous in the post-race conversations thanking all the teams that had to spend almost 4 months away from home due to all the border closures/quarantines in order to make sure the championship happened. May they all relax and enjoy the off-season to the absolute max possible in these circumstances.



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Posted 18 October 2020 - 09:19

Despite the final result being close I was actually kind of disappointed in the race. All the safety cars early in the race came right in the normal pit windows and forced everyone onto the exact same strategy so there was never any real intrigue as to what strategy was going to work out best. I think even a straight up lights to flag race with no SCs at all would've had more strategy variance. When you combine that with practically zero tyre deg over the stints it didn't make for the best of races.

 

Can't complain that the final result wasn't deserved though. SVG definitely deserved the win and Waters was impressive all weekend too. I hope he and Tickford can continue their form into next season. Feels king of strange for Whincup to end up 4th in the championship after he seemed to be the only one posing any sort of challenge to Mclaughlin all year but I guess that probably won't matter much to him at this stage of his career



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Posted 18 October 2020 - 14:45

It was a purists race, near 100 laps green flag racing with top 2 within 2 seconds of each other is pretty good viewing.

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 15:35

Alfisti, on 18 Oct 2020 - 14:45, said:

It was a purists race, near 100 laps green flag racing with top 2 within 2 seconds of each other is pretty good viewing.

I completely disagree. The safety cars completely dictated the race to the point that the top cars pitted on the exact same lap every time. There wasn't even a lap or 2 difference in stops where a nice in/out lap could make the difference. The cars were too evenly matched for any overtaking so it really needed at least a tiny bit of variance in strategy to create some excitement and that only would've happened with either less or better timed safety cars. The only time there was likely to be any on track overtaking was the wet period and Waters wasn't in the car to battle with Van Gisbergen at the time



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Posted 18 October 2020 - 18:57

How can the safety cars dictate the race when we had near 100 laps and 4 hours of green racing??? 



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Posted 18 October 2020 - 22:42

Just some personal thoughts:

This race has been special to me since I was a kid, watching it on the couch with my dad. No matter how the day pans out, I still enjoy it.
As a Holden fan (Brock was king to me), it’s sad to see the name will be disappearing.

F.....ing Whincup! I never liked him, and to me will always be a Ford driver. I hated seeing Lowndesy’s 888 with him in the car. The commentators were banging on about it being a ”rare” mistake. Rubbish. Every 2 out of 3 years he has done something boneheaded to throw the race away.
I’m far from a massive SVG fan, but I’m happy to see him get a win, especially seeing he had GT with him. And he didn’t run anyone off the road all day, haha.
Waters was good all weekend, and surprised me.
Great to see Chaz on the podium. He’s one of my favs now (with Dave) that Lowndes and GT are no longer on the grid full time.
On CL and GT, I would have loved them to have been able to team up in a third Triple 8 car, or even GRM.

Scotty will likely head to the States now. I wish him luck. I’m sure he’ll acquit himself well.

One last thing. I loved Skaife as a driver, but I really wish he’d shut up. He makes my ears bleed as a commentator.

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 23:08

Alfisti, on 18 Oct 2020 - 18:57, said:

How can the safety cars dictate the race when we had near 100 laps and 4 hours of green racing??? 

100 laps without a safety car? Was I watching a different race? The safety car just before lap 100 meant every car had their lead driver in (except McLaughlin) and had very little option but to pit two more times and split the rest of the race into 3 even stints. The most extreme strategy anyone could realistically go for from there was pit when McLaughlin/Slade did and even that was only a few laps before everyone else.

 

So calling it a race for the "purists" is not at all true. It was more of a modern flat out sprint race than anything you'd ever have traditionally seen



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Posted 19 October 2020 - 01:27

Bah i forgot about that one around lap 100. TBh though i think the top 2 were on the same strategy from lap 1. The race has changed int he last 20 years though, the reliability is so good and driving getting better and better, it really is a sprint. I mean the race winning pass was made around lap 60, which is kinda crazy.