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#1 Viryfan

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Posted 04 January 2021 - 20:04

Per Abiteboul on Autohebdo:

 

-  Plans were caught off guard by COVID in 2020 as it delayed new regulations

- There was a lot of carry over from 2019 to 2020 car despite new aero concept

- So they will be able to do wholesale change to the car for 2021 (Evolution will be as big as in 2020)

- Two of the Tokens will be used around suspensions in order to improve rear end aerodynamics



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#2 jcbc3

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Posted 04 January 2021 - 20:16

Don't they only have two tokens?



#3 Ivanhoe

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Posted 04 January 2021 - 20:19

Don't they only have two tokens?

Yes



#4 TomNokoe

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Posted 04 January 2021 - 21:53

Same tub as 2019, I believe?

#5 ARTGP

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Posted 04 January 2021 - 22:53

Per Abiteboul on Autohebdo:

 

-  Plans were caught off guard by COVID in 2020 as it delayed new regulations

- There was a lot of carry over from 2019 to 2020 car despite new aero concept

- So they will be able to do wholesale change to the car for 2021 (Evolution will be as big as in 2020)

- Two of the Tokens will be used around suspensions in order to improve rear end aerodynamics

 

It's a bit confusing.

 

Point number 2 doesn't seem to complement point number 3 in my mind. However, an evolution as big as 2020 is exciting to me! 

Point number 4, My guess is they studied the Mercedes solution and will run a bit of a copy cat design in the placement of the arms.

 

It's a little disappointing that they have not tried to get some mileage on the new engine.  The new engine sounds promising, but I don't trust easily. If they want to win the title in '22, it will be difficult to come with something so unproven like a new engine concept, let alone the new chassis.


Edited by ARTGP, 04 January 2021 - 23:02.


#6 shure

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Posted 04 January 2021 - 23:25

It's a bit confusing.

 

Point number 2 doesn't seem to complement point number 3 in my mind. However, an evolution as big as 2020 is exciting to me! 

Point number 4, My guess is they studied the Mercedes solution and will run a bit of a copy cat design in the placement of the arms.

 

It's a little disappointing that they have not tried to get some mileage on the new engine.  The new engine sounds promising, but I don't trust easily. If they want to win the title in '22, it will be difficult to come with something so unproven like a new engine concept, let alone the new chassis.

Agree on points 2 and 3!

 

Not sure what you mean about the engine mileage?  



#7 Viryfan

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Posted 04 January 2021 - 23:47

Agree on points 2 and 3!

 

Not sure what you mean about the engine mileage?  

 

use the tokens in order to integrate the whole new engine which will arrive for the chassis formula



#8 Viryfan

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Posted 04 January 2021 - 23:48

Abiteboul also admitted that the back end downforce and the floor was still a big weakness for the 2020 car.



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Posted 05 January 2021 - 00:34

What's AXXX? Just a placeholder before they announce their 2021 F1 car name?



#10 rootten

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Posted 05 January 2021 - 08:47

Abiteboul also admitted that the back end downforce and the floor was still a big weakness for the 2020 car.

 

That's actually might turn out good for us. Since rear downforce will be cut down with new floor regulations, other teams (Mercedes) with more sophisticated solutions in that area might suffer more as it will be taken way from them  :smoking:



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Posted 05 January 2021 - 08:48

Per Abiteboul on Autohebdo:

 

- Two of the Tokens will be used around suspensions in order to improve rear end aerodynamics

 

I've heard somewhere that the tokens will be used to redesign the cooling system (which in turn would indicate that new engine will be introduced)



#12 Viryfan

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Posted 05 January 2021 - 10:04

What's AXXX? Just a placeholder before they announce their 2021 F1 car name?

 

just a place order

 

My guess that the Alpine will be called A510 or A520


Edited by Viryfan, 05 January 2021 - 10:06.


#13 Chillimeister

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Posted 05 January 2021 - 14:32

It's a bit confusing.

 

Point number 4, My guess is they studied the Mercedes solution and will run a bit of a copy cat design in the placement of the arms.

 

 

Careful! I believe there's a bit of history between RP/AMR and Renault/Alpine regarding the use of Mercedes designs ....  :rotfl:


Edited by Chillimeister, 05 January 2021 - 14:33.


#14 Marklar

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 07:34

https://twitter.com/...2026262528?s=19

#15 balage06

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 07:59

 

Ugh, I already dislike it. :lol:



#16 eREr

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 08:24

Ugh, I already dislike it. :lol:

 

They will use all black testing livery for sure and introduce the real one only at the 1st race. Tricolor will be (huge) part of it, but definitely not in that way how this clip indicates (whole black car and the tricolor on the engine cover).



#17 Viryfan

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 08:47

They will use all black testing livery for sure and introduce the real one only at the 1st race. Tricolor will be (huge) part of it, but definitely not in that way how this clip indicates (whole black car and the tricolor on the engine cover).

 

it is not black but a very dark shade of blue



#18 Viryfan

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 11:55

It is not the livery, it is a concept livery.



#19 balage06

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 11:57

It's the technical thread, so I don't want to go way off, but when I see Alpine I instantly think of this colour:

https://amklassiek.n...019/07/37.0.jpg

 

So simple, yet so satisfying...



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#20 BRG

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 12:59

It's the technical thread, so I don't want to go way off, but when I see Alpine I instantly think of this colour:

And so you should.  That is the colour of Alpine cars.  If they turn out a race car that isn't that colour, they will be spitting on their own legacy.  But I am not hopeful that they won't.


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#21 ARTGP

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 13:06

And so you should.  That is the colour of Alpine cars.  If they turn out a race car that isn't that colour, they will be spitting on their own legacy.  But I am not hopeful that they won't.

 

Tell that to Ferrari  :lol:



#22 Calum

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 13:08

The paint scheme in that video clip just looks the same as the Formula Renault(?) presented in Alpine colours at one of the races last season.

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 16:43

The large tricolor on the engine cover looks naff, but would look good on the rear wing main plane of a primarily blue car. Few tricolor highlights here and there.

Edited by onewingedangel, 07 January 2021 - 16:46.


#24 Anja

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 16:46

Personally I don't like blue in general so I'm already prepared to not like the new team look   ;)



#25 Paco

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 17:21

As long as it’s not a mess like the WEC car... should be ok.

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 23:09

Alonsos-2021-F1-car-livery-revealed-Alpi



#27 FirstnameLastname

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Posted 08 January 2021 - 09:03

The black/yellow was great. This is gonna look like a crap codemasters filler livery, I’m sure.

#28 RainyAfterlifeDaylight

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Posted 08 January 2021 - 10:54

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#29 Paco

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Posted 08 January 2021 - 20:38

Talk about flat presentation....



#30 baddog

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Posted 08 January 2021 - 23:31

That is...

 

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I dont even.



#31 boomn

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Posted 09 January 2021 - 02:38

That F3 car was mocked up in Alpine colors in October to represent their support of the new FREC/Eurocup merged series. I am feeling optimistic that they will try harder and do better for the F1 car

#32 vee10

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Posted 09 January 2021 - 06:57

It's going to be hard to beat the iconic yellow and black  :cry:

 

I just received my 1/43rd Spark Ocon test car, looks great in black.

 

If they can nail blue like Toro Rosso did a few years ago that will be great but if the Tricolor is the main feature I will be amazed if it looks good.



#33 Viryfan

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Posted 09 January 2021 - 11:39

As i said it is a livery concept.

 

The visual identity is far from defined as of now for the team.

 

There are coulours missing in the video.



#34 MichaelPM

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Posted 09 January 2021 - 13:14

That HAAS styled A better be much smaller and the blue better be lighter (until fading into a darker strip for the French flag at the end or limiting it to the rear wing endplate)

McLaren better stay away from Chrome/Silver as well!!!

 

F1 is too drab, it needs more vibrant colours.



#35 Viryfan

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Posted 14 January 2021 - 08:48

The car will be called A521, please moderator change thread name



#36 jimjimjeroo

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Posted 14 January 2021 - 08:52

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#37 dannyricsshoe

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Posted 14 January 2021 - 10:23

The livery, if true is awful, like a 1970s tracksuit.
The previous yellow and red made it the best looking car on the grid imo.

#38 FirstnameLastname

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Posted 14 January 2021 - 10:28

Looks fast

#39 AustinF1

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Posted 14 January 2021 - 10:31

The livery, if true is awful, like a 1970s tracksuit.
The previous yellow and red made it the best looking car on the grid imo.

It's a testing livery. Nothing to worry too much about.



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#40 ARTGP

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Posted 14 January 2021 - 12:47

I like it actually  :lol: . A bit harsh on the eyes but I like it.


Edited by ARTGP, 14 January 2021 - 12:49.