Are any reasonably comprehensive Barber series race results - Barber-Saab, Barber-Dodge etc - posted in detail anywhere on the internet?
DCN
Posted 24 February 2021 - 13:20
Are any reasonably comprehensive Barber series race results - Barber-Saab, Barber-Dodge etc - posted in detail anywhere on the internet?
DCN
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Posted 24 February 2021 - 13:39
Posted 24 February 2021 - 14:33
The 1987 season seems to be here:
http://www.ultimater...t.php?year=1987
Jesper
Sorry, but I can only find a March 1 date from Miami!
Edited by 70JesperOH, 24 February 2021 - 15:21.
Posted 24 February 2021 - 16:57
Rick Roso, formerly the PR guy at Lime Rock, was the PR guy for the Barber series for a long time. Perhaps he can help. I suspect that you can still get a line on him through Lime Rock.
Tom
Posted 24 February 2021 - 17:18
That's a good shout actually. Ask him what happened to all the results and data internally once the Skip Barber Racing School changed hands(I think more than once over the past decade?). That archive must be...somewhere.
Posted 24 February 2021 - 17:47
I am sure there used to be fairly comprehensive results on the web, but there's still a fair amount of detail via WikiMili, WayBack Machine, etc. Am I dreaming, but didn't the annual IMSA Review show Barber series results?
Posted 24 February 2021 - 19:20
What are you looking for, Doug? I have reasonably complete results for most races 1986 to 2000. That is, some very detailed and complete, some less so, but overall it's close to 3,000 data base lines of what amounts to 180 races.
Posted 25 February 2021 - 08:58
Thanks Michael - star player (again) - I'll e-mail you.
DCN
Posted 01 March 2021 - 21:57
Now that I've sent Doug my file, maybe this is as good a place as any to try and improve on my data. I have the winners of all 180 races from 1986 to 2000, but ideally I'd want at least the top six finishers, along with the race distance and winner's time for every one of the 180. If anyone has this info, or maybe even more, I would very much appreciate if you'd posted it here. This is what I'm still missing:
1986
Jun 29 Meadowlands, 6th place
Jul 20 Brainerd, 2nd - 6th, winner's time
Aug 3 Saint Louis, 2nd - 6th, race distance and time
Aug 16 Lime Rock, 6th, distance & time
Sep 1 Lime Rock, 6th, distance & time
Sep 21 Watkins Glen, time
Oct 18 Lime Rock, 2nd - 6th, time
Nov 9 Tamiami, time
Nov 15 Saint Petersburg, distance & time
1987
Mar 1 Miami, time
Apr 12 Road Atlanta, 4th - 6th, time
May 25 Lime Rock, 6th & distance
Jun 7 Mid-Ohio, 3rd - 6th, time
Jul 12, Summit Point, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
Jul 25 Portland, time
Aug 1 Sears Point, 3rd - 6th, distance & time
Aug 8 Watkins Glen, 4th - 6th, time
Aug 30 Road America, time
Sep 6 San Antonio, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
Sep 27 Watkins Glen, 6th & time
Nov 1 Tamiami, time
1988
Feb 28 Miami, time
Apr 10 Road Atlanta, ditsance & time
May 30 Lime Rock, time
Jun 5 Mid-Ohio, distance & time
Jul 3 Watkins Glen, distance & time
Jul 17 Road America, distance & time
Jul 31 Portland, distance & time
Aug 14 Sears Point, distance & time
Sep 4 San Antonio, distance & time
Oct 23 Del Mar, distance & time
1989
Mar 5 Miami, time
Apr 2 Road Atlanta, time
May 28 Lime Rock, time
Jun 4 Mid-Ohio, 6th, distance & time
Jul 30 Portland, 3rd - 6th, time
Sep 10 Sears Point, time
Oct 1 Tampa, time
Oct 22 Del Mar, 3rd - 6th, distance & time
1990
Apr 1 Road Atlanta, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
May 5 Heartland Park, time
May 28 Lime Rock, 6th, distance & time
Jun 3 Mid-Ohio, time
Jul 15 Sears Point, distance & time
Jul 29 Portland, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
Aug 19 Road America, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
Sep 30 Tampa, time
Nov 11 Del Mar, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
1991
Mar 3, Palm Beach, time
Apr 7 Miami, time
Apr 28 Road Atlanta, 5th & 6th, distance & time
May 27 Lime Rock, time
Jun 2 Mid-Ohio, time
Jun 20 Watkins Glen, time
Jul 21 Laguna Seca, time
Jul 28 Portland, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
Aug 25 Road America, time
Swp 22 Road America, time
1992
Mar 21 Sebring, time
Jun 14 New Orleans, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
Jul 5 New Hampshire, time
Jul 19 Laguna Seca, time
Aug 23 Road America, time
Sep 13 Mid-Ohio, time
1993
Feb 21 Miami, time
Apr 18 Road Atlanta, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
Jun 13 Detroit, time
Aug 22 Road America, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
Sep 12 Mid-Ohio, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
1994
Jun 11 Detroit, 5th & 6th, time
Aug 13 Mid-Ohio, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
Aug 21 New Hampshire, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
Sep 10 Road America, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
Sep 11 Road America, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
1995
Mar 5 Miami, time
Mar 18 Sebring, time
May 6 Phoenix, time
May 29 Lime Rock, distance & time
Jul 8 Road America, time
Jul 9 Road America, 3rd - 6th, distance & time
Jul 16 Sears Point, time
1996
May 5 Texas, distance & time
May 27 Lime Rock, distance & time
Phew, more than I thought! I have AUTOSPORT from 1995 onwards, and they had the top ten for most races, so I'm hoping someone whose collection goes a bit farther backwards can step in here!
Edited by Michael Ferner, 08 March 2021 - 17:20.
Posted 08 March 2021 - 17:33
Edited by Michael Ferner, 08 March 2021 - 17:35.
Posted 08 March 2021 - 20:14
These are some of the additions from results I compiled from Autosport a few years ago
1986
Nov 15 Saint Petersburg, distance & time
20 laps = 40 miles
1 - Brian Till, 28m 22.271s (84.571mph)
2 - Bruce Feldman, 28m 24.860s
3 - Robby Unser
4 - Niclas Schonstrom
5 - Kurt Roehrig
6 - Willy Lewis
Fastest Lap: Robby Unser, 1m 23.626s (86.098mph)
1988
Apr 10 Road Atlanta, ditsance & time
19 laps = 47.88 miles
1 - Harald Huysman, 29m 32.036s (97.27mph)
2 - John Estupinan, 29m 34.062s
3 - Andy Swett
4 - Mark Jaremko
5 - John Cochran
6 - Bruce Feldman
7 - Giuseppe Cipriani
8 - George Straub
9 - Stephen Hynes
10 - Randy Harris
Fastest Lap: Andy Swett, 1m 25.430s (106.192mph)
Jun 5 Mid-Ohio, distance & time
26 laps = 62.4 miles
1 - Jeremy Dale, 39m 19.39s (95.211mph)
2 - Bruce Feldman, 39m 20.69s
3 - Rob Wilson
4 - Harald Huysman
5 - John Cochran
6 - Tom Dolan
7 - Andy Swett
8 - Ken Knott
9 - Jim Pace
10 - John Estupinan
Jul 3 Watkins Glen, distance & time
18 laps = 60.786 miles
1 - Bruce Feldman, 38m 34.148s (94.562mph)
2 - Brian Bonner, 38m 37.833s
3 - Giuseppe Cipriani
4 - John Cochran
5 - Rob Wilson
6 - Richard Burgess
7 - Ken Knott
8 - Stephen Hynes
9 - Bob Dotson
10 - Darryl Landvater
Fastest Lap: Bruce Feldman, 1m 53.220s (107.377mph)
Jul 17 Road America, distance & time
15 laps = 60 miles
1 - Rob Wilson, 35m 28.264s (101.491mph)
2 - John Cochran, 35m 32.605s
3 - Ken Knott
4 - Jeremy Dale
5 - Mark Jaremko
6 - Bruce Feldman
7 - Harald Huysman
8 - John Estupinan
9 - Andy Swett
10 - Dave Martin
Fastest Lap: Ken Knott, 2m 20.610s (102.411mph)
Jul 31 Portland, distance & time
30 laps = 57.45 miles
1 - Harald Huysman, 35m 21.20s (97.044mph)
2 - Mark Jaremko, 35m 36.06s
3 - Tom Dolan
4 - Andy Swett
5 - Randy Harris
6 - Bruce Feldman
7 - Rob Wilson
8 - John Cochran
9 - Mike Strawbridge
10 - John Estupinan
Fastest Lap: Mark Jaremko, 1m 09.980s (98.514mph)
Aug 14 Sears Point, distance & time
24 laps = 62.552 miles
1 - Harald Huysman , 43m 36.565s (83.310mph)
2 - Rob Wilson, 43m 37.691s
3 - Todd Snyder
4 - Tom Dolan
5 - Bruce Feldman
6 - John Cochran
7 - Jim Pace
8 - Mark Jaremko
9 - Stephen Hynes
10 - Mike Strawbridge
Fastest Lap: Harald Huysman, 1m 35.818s (94.792mph)
Oct 23 Del Mar, distance & time
19 laps = 30.4 miles
1 - Jeremy Dale, 30m 59.543s (58.853mph)
2 - Harald Huysman, 31m 12.887s
3 - John Cochran
4 - Freddie Spencer
5 - Rob Wilson
6 - Ken Knott
7 - Nick Kunewalder
8 - Mike Strawbridge
9 - Brian Bonner
10 - Stephen Hynes
Fastest Lap: Bruce Feldman, 1m 27.540s (65.798mph)
1989
Mar 5 Miami, time
15 laps = 28.1 miles
1 - Rob Wilson, 31m 40.6s (53.2mph)
2- John Cochran
3 - Justin Bell
4 - Ian Ashley
5 - Robbie Buhl
6 - Nick Kunewalder
7 - Brian Bonner
8 - Brian Till
9 - Bob Dotson
10 - Andy Pilgrim
May 28 Lime Rock, time
40 laps = 61.60 miles
1 - Bernard Santal, 37m 59.201s (97.297mph)
2 - Justin Bell, 38m 02.564s
3 - Robbie Buhl, 40 laps
4 - John Cochran, 40 laps
5 - Ian Ashley, 40 laps
6 - Nick Kunewalder , 40 laps
7 - Jeff Boyce, 40 laps
8 - Bob Dotson, 40 laps
9 - Bob Reid, 40 laps
10 - Bruce McQuiston, 39 laps
Fastest Lap: Robbie Buhl, 55.840s (99.283mph)
Jul 30 Portland, 3rd - 6th, time
32 laps = 61.28 miles
1 - Robbie Buhl, 38m 30.905s (95.464mph)
2 - Justin Bell, 38m 39.286s
3 - Rob Wilson
4 - Brian Till
5 - Jeff Boyce
6 - John Tanner
7 - Bob Dotson
8 - Jim Pace
9 - Nick Kunewalder
10 - George Sutcliffe
Fastest Lap: Robbie Buhl, 1m 07.860s (101.591mph)
Sep 10 Sears Point, time
23 laps = 58.03 miles
1 - Robbie Buhl, 40m 36.153s (85.732mph)
2 - Justin Bell
3 - John Bigham
4 - Jeff Boyce
5 - Nick Kunewalder
6 - Bob Dotson
7 - Jim Pace
8 - Bill Adams
9 - Brian Ferris
10 - John Duke
Fastest Lap: Jeff Boyce, 1m 36.629s (93.996mph)
Oct 1 Tampa, time
30 laps of a 1.9-mile circuit = 57.0 miles
1 - Robbie Buhl, 39m 09.998s (87.319mph)
2 - Rob Wilson, 39m 22.172s
3 - Matt Blevins
4 - John Tanner
5 - Brian Till
6 - Nick Kunewalder
7 - Jim Pace
8 - Stephen Hynes
9 - Bob Dotson
10 - George Sutcliffe
Fastest Lap: Robbie Buhl, 1m 17.158s (88.649mph)
Oct 22 Del Mar, 3rd - 6th, distance & time
17 laps = 27.2 miles
1 - Rob Wilson, 30m 29.424s (53.525mph)
2 - Robbie Buhl, 30m 35.026s
3 - Bob Dotson
4 - Dave Welch
5 - Matt Blevins
6 - Shane Lewis
7 - Rick Johnson
8 - Antonio Covelli
9 - Chris McAdam
10 - Tom Steele
Fastest Lap: Robbie Buhl, 1m 13.241s (78.655ph)
1990
May 5 Heartland Park, time
21 laps = 47.5 miles
1 - Rob Wilson, 40m 23.028s (70.573mph)
2 - John Tanner, 40m 28.685s
3 - John Bigham
4 - Steve Cameron
5 - Johnny Robinson
6 - Walt Bohren
7 - Bob Dotson
8 - Glenn Straub
9 - Kelly Collins
10 - Nick Kunewalder
Fastest Lap: Rob Wilson, 1m 47.820s (83.472mph)
May 28 Lime Rock, 6th, distance & time
41 laps = 83.140 miles
1 - Rob Wilson, 40m 44.195s (92.997mph)
2 - Walt Bohren, 40m 47.657s
3 - Troy Shooter, 41 laps
4 - Steve Cameron, 41 laps
5 - John Tanner, 41 laps
6 - Bert Hart, 41 laps
7 - Jim Pace, 41 laps
8 - Briggs Phillips, 41 laps
9 - Joe Pezza, 41 laps
10 - Bryan Herta, 40 laps
Fastest Lap: Rob Wilson, 55.660s (99.604mph)
Jul 15 Sears Point, distance & time
21 laps = 52.98 miles
1 - Johnny Robinson, 36m 10.36s (87.88mph)
2 - Steve Cameron, 36m 10.92s
3 - Kelly Collins
4 - Rob Wilson
5 - Bryan Herta
6 - John Bigham
7 - Bert Hart
8 - Matt Christian
9 - Leo Parente
10 - Joe Pezza
Fastest Lap: Johnny Robinson, 1m 36.015s (94.60mph)
Jul 29 Portland, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
29 laps = 55.53 miles
1 - Steve Cameron, 34m 06.73s (97.68mph)
2 - John Tanner
3 - David Welch
4 - Bryan Herta
5 - Matt Blevins
6 - Leo Parente
7 - Johnny Robinson
8 - Mark Jaremko
9 - Page Jones
10 - John Bigham
Fastest Lap: Steve Cameron, 1m 07.907s (101.52mph)
Aug 19 Road America, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
12 laps = 48 miles
1 - John Tanner, 31m 32.337s
2 - Johnny Robinson
3 - Briggs Phillips
4 - Bob Reid
5 - Rob Wilson
6 - Steve Cameron
7 - Bryan Herta
8 - Wes Short
9 - Jack Benedict
10 - John Hotchkis, Jr.
Sep 30 Tampa, time
20 laps = 38.00 miles
1 - Johnny Robinson, 34m 29.645s (66.098mph)
2 - Robert Amren, 34m 32.154s
3 - Page Jones
4 - Tony Leivo
5 - David Pook
6 - Leo Parente
7 - Wes Short
8 - John Bigham
9 - Rob Wilson
10 - Jon Gooding
Fastest Lap: Johnny Robinson, 1m 18.112s (87.566mph)
Nov 11 Del Mar, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
27 laps = 43.2 miles
1 - Rob Wilson, 35m 36.586s (72.789mph)
2 - Robert Amren, 35m 38.478s
3 - Nick Kunewalder
4 - John Tanner
5 - Page Jones
6 - David Pook
7 - Johnny Robinson
8 - John Bigham
9 - Henrique Barcellos
10 - Tony Leivo
Fastest Lap: Robert Amren, 1m 10.975s (81.155mph)
1991
Mar 3, Palm Beach, time
25 laps = 40.5 miles
1 - Johnny Robinson, 31m 02.199s (78.295mph)
2 - Robert Amren, 31m 02.894s
3 - Page Jones
4 - Ross Hockenhull
5 - Ian Ashley
6 - David Pook
7 - Jose Cordova
8 - Tony Trimmer
9 - Matt Christian
10 - Mark Tremblay
Fastest Lap: Bryan Herta, 1m 06.573s (87.603mph)
Apr 7 Miami, time
24.349 miles
1 - Johnny Robinson, 30m 43.039s
2 - Bryan Herta, 30m 44.475s
3 - Robert Amren
4 - David Pook
5 - Jose Cordova
6 - Tony Leivo
7 - Victor Gonzalez
8 -Barry Waddell
9 - Riccardo Dona
10 - Alex Padilla
Apr 28 Road Atlanta, 5th & 6th, distance & time
21 laps = 52.92 miles
1 - Johnny Robinson, 30m 37.982s (103.653mph)
2 - Page Jones, 30m 51.725s
3 - Robert Amren
4 - Bryan Herta
5 - Barry Waddell
6 - Wes Short
7 - Riccardo Dona
8 - Briggs Phillips
9 - Mark Tremblay
10 - Buzz Calkins
11 - David Pook
Jun 30 Watkins Glen, time
25 laps of 2.428-mile road course = 60.70 miles
1 - Johnny Robinson, 30m 52.70s (117.947mph)
2 - Page Jones, 25 laps
3 - Bryan Herta, 25 laps
4 - Robert Amren, 25 laps
5 - Mark Tremblay, 25 laps
6 - Riccardo Dona, 25 laps
7 - Kurt Kossmann, 25 laps
8 - Ross Hockenhull , 25 laps
9 - Barry Waddell, 25 laps
10 - Stan Potter, 25 laps
Jul 28 Portland, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
26 laps
1 - Bryan Herta
2 - Leo Parente
3 - Page Jones
4 - Barry Waddell
5 - Alex Padilla
6 - Kurt Kossmann
7 - Mark Tremblay
8 - David Pook
9 - Johnny Robinson
10 - Robert Amren
Aug 25 Road America, time
10 laps = 40 miles
1 - Johnny Robinson, 30m 06.55s (79.10mph)
2 - Bryan Herta, 30m 07.01
3 - Tony Leivo
4 - Page Jones
5 - Robert Amren
6 - Leo Parente
7 - Chris Smith
8 - Mark Tremblay
9 - David Pook
10 - Buzz Calkins
Sep 22 Road America, time
13 laps = 52 miles
1 - Leo Parente, 30m 30.10s (101.089mph)
2 - Robert Amren, 30m 39.33s
3 - Bryan Herta
4 - Page Jones
5 - Alex Padilla
6 - Mark Tremblay
7 - Riccardo Dona
8 - Barry Waddell
9 - Ross Hockenhull
10 - Buzz Calkins
Fastest Lap: Robert Amren, 2m 18.99s (103.60mph)
1992
Mar 21 Sebring, time
14 laps = 52.88 miles
1 - Robert Amren, 30m 38.709s (101.529mph)
2 - Alex Padilla
3 - Ashton Lewis, Jr.
4 - Rick Pollock
5 - Jesus Silva
6 - Brandon Sperling
7 - Barry Waddell
8 - Diego Guzman
9 - Mark Tremblay
10 - Bill Adams
Fastest Lap: Diego Guzman, 2m 10.446s (101.831mph)
Jun 14 New Orleans, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
23 laps = 37.74 miles
1 - Page Jones, 30m 06.40s (65.55mph)
2 - Diego Guzman, 30m 07.59s
3 - Alex Padilla
4 - Ashton Lewis, Jr.
5 - Bill Adams
6 - Robert Amren
7 - Craig Hall
8 - Leo Parente
9 - Rick Pollock
10 - Jesus Silva
Jul 5 New Hampshire, time
50 laps = 52.9 miles
1 - Page Jones, 26m 29.42s (119.81mph)
2 - Ashton Lewis, Jr., 26m 29.80s
3 - Robert Amren
4 - Diego Guzman
5 - Craig Hall
6 - Leo Parente
7 - Alex Padilla
8 - Taylor Weld
9 - Bill Adams
10 - Tony Leivo
Jul 19 Laguna Seca, time
1 - Robert Amren, 31m 05.027s (81.19mph)
2 - Alex Padilla, 31m 06.721s
3 - Page Jones
4 - Rick Pollock
5 - Riccardo Dona
6 - Brandon Sperling
7 - John Bigham
8 - Craig Hall
9 - Jesus Silva
10 - Michael Fox
Aug 23 Road America, time
13 laps = 52 miles
1 - Robert Amren, 30m 38.77s (101.81mph)
2 - Ashton Lewis, 30m 40.62s
3 - Elton Julian
4 - Riccardo Dona
5 - Rick Pollock
6 - Craig Hall
7 - Andrea Kasiewicz
8 - Bernard Levalois
9 - Rhonda Regnier
10 - Craig Lawrence
Sep 13 Mid-Ohio, time
22 laps = 49.5 miles
1 - Robert Amren, 31m 21.69s (94.70mph)
2 - Ashton Lewis
3 - Alex Padilla
4 - Leo Parente
5 - Diego Guzman
6 - Bill Adams
7 - Rick Pollock
8 - Riccardo Dona
9 - Brandon Sperling
10 -Craig Hall
1993
Feb 21 Miami, time
15 laps = 28.09 miles
1 - Kenny Brack, 30m 01.81s (56.13mph)
2 - Brandon Sperling, 30m 02.61s
3 - Bill Adams
4 - Diego Guzman
5 - Riccardo Dona
6 - Barry Waddell
7 - Alex Padilla
8 - Jerry Nadeau
9 - Andy Boss
10 - Jon Miranda
Apr 18 Road Atlanta, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
Held at Atlanta Motor Speedway supporting the IMSA GTP Series
1 - Alex Padilla
2 - Martijn Koene
3 - Jerry Nadeau
4 - Brandon Sperling
5 - Kenny Brack
6 - Diego Guzman
Jun 13 Detroit, time
12 laps of a 2.1-mile street circuit = 25.2 miles
1 - Kenny Brack, 28m 44s (52.611mph)
2 - Brandon Sperling
3 - Alex Padilla
4 - Riccardo Dona
5 - Luis Zervigon
6 - Martijn Koene
7 - Kyle Chura
8 - Tom Semik
9 - Divina Galica
10 - Jeff Jones
Aug 22 Road America, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
10 laps = 40 miles
1 - Kenny Brack, 30m 29.01s (78.83mph)
2 - Diego Guzman, 30m 29.41s
3 - Jerry Nadeau
4 - Riccardo Dona
5 - Barry Waddell
6 - Brad Funk
7 - Jon Field
8 - Andy Boss
9 - Brandon Sperling
10 - Dave Hotz
Sep 12 Mid-Ohio, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
1 – Alex Padilla
2 – Brandon Sperling
3 – Riccardo Dona
4 – Bill Adams
5 – Geoff Boss
6 – Barry Waddell
7 – Brad Funk
8 – Diego Guzman
9 – Brian McCarthy
10 – Andy Boss
1994
Aug 13 Mid-Ohio, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
17 laps
1 – Juan Pablo Montoya, 31m 28.194s
2 – Mark Hotchkis, 31m 28.392s
3 – Andy Boss
4 – Diego Guzman
5 – Geoff Boss
6 – Barry Waddell
Aug 21 New Hampshire, 2nd - 6th, distance & time
50 laps
1 – Jerry Nadeau, 27m 53.834s
2 – Andy Boss
3 – Diego Guzman
4 – Geoff Boss
5 – Juan Pablo Montoya
6 – Luis Zervigon
7 – Mark Hotchkis
8 – Divina Galica
Posted 08 March 2021 - 20:18
Superb!
Posted 14 March 2021 - 14:24
Michael,
Full results are in the IMSA Yearbooks - I just found one. They come up on eBay occasionally.
Mark
Posted 14 March 2021 - 14:34
Great lead thank you. I should confess that my minor personal problem is the need for contemporary race numbers to ID photography from these races.
DCN
Posted 19 March 2021 - 15:35
What are you looking for, Doug? I have reasonably complete results for most races 1986 to 2000. That is, some very detailed and complete, some less so, but overall it's close to 3,000 data base lines of what amounts to 180 races.
Do that include results from the 1987 season, from which I have finally transcibed the results from the appropriate IMSA yearbook. If so I won't bother about posting them here (unless requested). But going through the results I have questions and remarks about the 1987 season - the second year of the series.
The races had 16 to 26 starters in each race among 72 drivers over the 12 race series - only four drivers started every race. For an entry level single seater series it seems ambitious to span just about every single corner of the USA with a one make car - but I believe that at the time you could aquire a Saab across the entire nation!
I have noticed a similar pattern of many drivers with limited race starts in SCCA Trans-Am sedan series in the early years, but at a time where cars were eligble in regional SCCA races.
Were the cars eligble in libra races?
Were the cars owned by Barber SAAB or independant entries?
Jesper OH
Posted 19 March 2021 - 15:52
I think for the entirety the cars were run by the series, it was a turn-key operation. There'd be a mechanic(s) and an engineer for a group of cars/drivers. I want to say 4-6? It was a pretty simple series, sort of like a finishing school or exam rather than a curriculum, if that makes sense?
Doug if you're particularly stuck, or have a low volume to ID, maybe photos would help as some of the helmet designs might jog some niche memories? Though you may have moved beyond that point by now...
Edited by Ross Stonefeld, 19 March 2021 - 15:52.
Posted 19 March 2021 - 16:41
I think for the entirety the cars were run by the series, it was a turn-key operation. There'd be a mechanic(s) and an engineer for a group of cars/drivers. I want to say 4-6? It was a pretty simple series, sort of like a finishing school or exam rather than a curriculum, if that makes sense?
It makes sence because other series post-period-present operate in the same way. That might also explains different entrant names for certain drivers during the season and even different starting numbers.
But do that also imply that the driver and or sponsor payed for an entry for each race?
Jesper OH
Posted 19 March 2021 - 20:20
On another note I notice that Italian Giuseppe Cipriani, noted as of New York, NY, in round one - later Venize, Italy - was a regular during the season. That same year he partnered Walter Voulaz in the FIA World Touring Car Championship in an Albatech Alfa Romeo 75 Turbo Evo. Actually the pairing ended up "winning" the opening round of the series at Monza!
Results from a late great friend: http://touringcarrac...1987 Monza.html
Jesper OH
Posted 20 March 2021 - 08:51
I'm very interested in the 1987 results, as that year is still very thinly represented in my data, so yes please, if you could post the info from the IMSA yearbook here that would help a lot!
As far as I can tell, drivers rented the cars for each race. I recall British driver Johnny Robinson once remarking about how each win paid his entry for the next race, which was (I think) 5000 USD at the time. A decade or so later, a win paid 10,000 USD or more, but I don't know whether the fee rose to those levels, too.
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Posted 20 March 2021 - 12:07
By 1987 a race win was worth 6000 USD, 4000 to second, 3000 to third, then 1800 to fourth and from there degrading by a 100 dollars down to 14th ending on 700 USD. 15th through to 20th received 700 USD. Below that it was 600 USD.
I'll begin to post results from here.
Jesper OH
Posted 20 March 2021 - 14:40
I'm very interested in the 1987 results, as that year is still very thinly represented in my data, so yes please, if you could post the info from the IMSA yearbook here that would help a lot!
As far as I can tell, drivers rented the cars for each race. I recall British driver Johnny Robinson once remarking about how each win paid his entry for the next race, which was (I think) 5000 USD at the time. A decade or so later, a win paid 10,000 USD or more, but I don't know whether the fee rose to those levels, too.
In 1997? Probably, that was the last year of the tube-frame car. After that it was a carbon Reynard so may have cost a little more, but not dramatically. I think it was like a 125-150k a year series? Maybe even less? You couldn't spend extra on testing or anything.
In fact from a press release at the end of 97 about the new car/season
The U.S.-based Barber Dodge Pro Series is the world's leading single-seat equal-car championship, since only the Series organizer (Skip Barber Racing) prepares and maintains every car. Young, up-and-coming professional drivers from around the world "lease" a car for a set cost per race (currently, a full season budget is roughly $125,000US), using the Series as a steppingstone to the next level, usually F3000 or CART Indy Lights. The races are televised nationally and internationally by espn2 and ESPN International.
Posted 20 March 2021 - 18:41
Thank you for all these contributions but in effect all I seek to work from is a list of each year's Barber-series race numbers... And that - short of contemporary portray race programmes - is what seems to be really elusive.
DCN
Posted 22 March 2021 - 14:08
1987 – race 1 of 12
March 1, 1987
Finley Hymo Barber Saab Pro Series – support to the IMSA Camel GT Championships
Miami Street Circuit, Florida – 80,000 spectators
30-minute race on a 1,873 mile contemporary street circuit over 20 laps = 37,460 miles
Pole: #33 Ken Murillo, 1:26.223 – 78.202 mph
FL: #3 Bruce Feldman, 1:25.400 – 78.955 mph on lap 2
Pos. - Grid - # - Driver – Town, State – Laps – Time – Mph - Notes
- 1. - 33 – Ken Murillo – San Ramon, Ca. - 20 – 32:22.140 – 69,437
- 3. - 3 – Bruce Feldman – Ridgewood, NJ – 20 - +0.349
- 4. - 9 – Mark Wyborny – Bonita, Ca. - 20
- 2. - 26 – Jeremy Dale – Toronto, Ont. - 20
- 10. - 1 – Greg Hobbs – Priors Hardwick, GB – 20
- 8. - 21 – Tom Rojewski – Zanesville, Oh – 20
- 6. - 12 - ”Fomfor” - Miami, Fl. - 20
- 22. - 18 – Mike Ciasulli – Edison, NJ – 20
- 19. - 50 – Mark Reeves – Dallas, Tx – 20
- 20. - 11 – Paco Diaz – Miami, Fl. - 20
- 23. - 5 – Charles Willis – Germantown, Tn. - 20
- 21. - 55 – John Finch – London, GB – 20
- 18. - 8 – Ken Behr – Hollowood, Fl. - 20
- 12. - 10 – John Hayes-Harlow – Fort Lauderdale, Fl. - 20
- 24. - 6 – James Lee – Miami, Fl. - 20
- 25. - 93 – Ron Pawley – Columbus, Oh. - 20
- 15. - 22 – Mickey Minagorri – Miami, Fl. - 19 – DNF
- 5. - 99 – Mark Brainard – Dayton, Oh. - 18 – DNF
- 16. - 44 – Fernando Capablanca – Miami, Fl. - 18
- 7. - 57 – Eric Kielts – Oak Park, Mi. - 16 – DNF
- 9. - 17 – Richard Myhre – Cleveland Heights, Oh. - 15 – DNF
- 14. - 81 – John Estupinan – Miami, Fl. - 15 – DNF
- 17. - 30 – Walter Riley – Maplewood, NJ – 10 – DNF
- 13. - 27 – Giuseppe Cipriani – New York, NY – 3 – DNF
- 11. - 7 – Stephen Hynes – Mendham, NJ – 2 – DNF
Cipriani later noted to have Venice, Italy as his hometown.
Jesper OH
Posted 22 March 2021 - 19:22
Thank you very much indeed for this extremely helpful post - much appreciated.
DCN
Posted 23 March 2021 - 14:07
Hi all.
I hope you don't mind me joining in on this discussion (albeit a little bit late), particularly as I'm a new member (first post).
While I don't have the results for each race from 1987 (although that may have been taken care of), I have constructed/collated a points table spreadsheet, if that helps in any shape or form for Michael. I did have the official press releases with their points table issued at the time, but without wishing to be swamped with paperwork, I didn't keep them .
On this subject, I don't have any results/points table for the 1989 season (the only year, I appear to have no data), If someone can provide the appropriate data to construct a points table to complete my records, I would be really grateful.
Posted 23 March 2021 - 18:44
1987 – race 2 of 12
April 12, 1987
Barber Saab Pro Series – support to the IMSA Camel GT Championships
Road Atlanta, Georgia – 42,000 spectators
30-minute race on a 2.52 mile road course over 20 laps = 54.4 miles
Pole: #9 Mark Wyborny, 1:28.175 – 102.886 mph
FL: #9 Mark Wyborny, 1:28.280 – 102.764 mph on lap 9
Pos. - Grid - # - Driver – Town, State – Laps – Time – Mph – Notes
- 2. - 33 – Ken Murillo – San Ramon, Ca. - 20 – 29:43.955 – 101.707 mph
- 1. - 9 – Mark Wyborny – Bonita, Ca. - 20 - +0:10.685
- 6. - 26 – Jeremy Dale – Toronto, Ont. - 20
- 5. - 3 – Bruce Feldman – Ridgewood, NJ – 20
- 3. - 99 – Mark Brainard – Dayton, Oh. - 20
- 7. - 1 – Greg Hobbs – Priors Hardwick, GB – 20
- 8. - 25 – Jeff Simpson – Torrance, Ca. - 20
- 10. - 7 – Stephen Hynes – Mendham, NJ – 20
- 12. - 5 – Charles Willis – Germantown, Tn. - 20
- 15. - 22 – Jonathan Holtzman – Farmington, Mi. - 20
- 9. - 81 – John Estupinan, Miami, Fl. - 20
- 16. - 8 – Nick Komlyn – Pittsburgh, PA – 20
- 11. - 44 – Bill Gurley – Raleigh, NC – 20
- 4. - 17 – Tim Colwell – Davie West, Fl. - 20
- 13. - 2 – Rex McDaniel – Fort Worth, TX – 20
- 17. - 93 – Ron Pawley – Columbus, Oh. - 20
- 18. - 55 – John Finch – London, GB – 20
- 19. - 11 – Jeff Butz – Westerville, Oh. - 19
- 14. - 57 – Andy Swett – Houston, Tx. - 16 – DNF
- 20. - 18 – Mike Ciasulli – Edison, NJ – 0 - DNF
Jesper OH
Posted 23 March 2021 - 18:51
1987 – race 3 of 12
May 25, 1987
Barber Saab Pro Series – support to the IMSA Camel GT Championships
Lime Rock Park, Conn. – 37,000 spectators
30-minute race on a 1.53 mile road course over 32 laps = 48.96 miles
Pole: #4 Robbie Buhl, 0:55.743 – 98.811 mph
FL: #26 Jeremy Dale, 0:55.060 – 100.036 mph on lap 26
Pos. - Grid - # - Driver – Town, State – Laps – Time – Mph – Notes
Posted 23 March 2021 - 18:51
Hello Rob, and welcome!
I'd be interested in your 1987 points table. I have constructed reasonably complete points tables for most years, but have not been able to do so for the first two years, and 1987 is particularly bad, missing results for several races. Here is the one I constructed for 1989 - it's not complete, and (as usual in my data) yellow fields mean suspect data, or constructed from points standings.
I hope this works - if it's too small to read, click on it and it should open larger.
Posted 23 March 2021 - 19:01
1987 – race 4 of 12
June 7, 1987
Barber Saab Pro Series – support to the IMSA Camel GT Championships
Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course, Ohio. – 35,000 spectators
30-minute race on a 2.4 mile road course over 20 laps = 48 miles
Pole: #4 Robbie Buhl, 1:34.949 – 90.996 mph
FL: #17 Tim Colwell, 1:35.120 – 90.833 mph on lap 17
Pos. - Grid - # - Driver – Town, State – Laps – Time – Mph – Notes
Posted 23 March 2021 - 19:04
Fantastic!!! More thanks due from me...
DCN
Posted 23 March 2021 - 19:07
Jesper, I am delighted to see these results. Have you compiled these in database or spreadsheet form, and if so, would you be willing to share a copy?
Many thanks
Allen
Posted 23 March 2021 - 19:15
1987 – race 5 of 12
July 12, 1987
Evergreen Motors Barber Saab Pro Series – support to the IMSA GTO/GTU Championships
Summit Point Raceway, West Virginia – 15,000 spectators
30-minute race on a 2.0 mile road course over 24 laps = 48 miles
Pole: #17 Tim Colwell, 1:18.252 – 92.010 mph
FL: #17 Tim Colwell, 1:18.800 – 91.371 mph on lap 14
Pos. - Grid - # - Driver – Town, State – Laps – Time – Mph – Notes
Posted 23 March 2021 - 19:39
1987 – race 6 of 12
July 25, 1987
Barber Saab Pro Series – support to the IMSA Camel GT Championships
Portland International Raceway, Oregon – 30,000 spectators
30-minute race on a 1.915 mile road course over 25 laps = 47.875 miles
Pole: #9 Mark Wybonrny, 1:12.754 – 94.758 mph
FL: #17 Tim Colwell, 1:12.990 – 94.451 mph on lap 20
Pos. - Grid - # - Driver – Town, State – Laps – Time – Mph – Notes
Posted 23 March 2021 - 19:44
1987 – race 7 of 12
August 1, 1987
Barber Saab Pro Series – support to the IMSA Camel GT Championships
Sears Point International Raceway, California – 44,000 spectators
30-minute race on a 2.523 mile road course over 20 laps = 50.46 miles
Pole: #26 Jeremy Dale, 1:41.627 – 89.374 mph
FL: #9 Mark Wyborny, 1:42.170 – 88.899 mph on lap 15
Pos. - Grid - # - Driver – Town, State – Laps – Time – Mph – Notes
Posted 23 March 2021 - 19:49
1987 – race 8 of 12
August 8, 1987
Barber Saab Pro Series – support to the IMSA Camel GT Championships
Watkins Glen International Circuit, New York – 26,000 spectators
30-minute race on a 3.377 mile road course over 25 laps = 60.7 miles
Pole: #33 Ken Murillo, 1:16.969 – 113.563 mph
FL: #Bruce Feldman, 1:15.970 – 115.056 mph on lap 23
Pos. - Grid - # - Driver – Town, State – Laps – Time – Mph – Notes
Posted 23 March 2021 - 19:58
1987 – race 9 of 12
August 30, 1987
Barber Saab Pro Series – support to the IMSA Camel GT Championships
Road America, Wisconsin – 45,000 spectators
30-minute race on a 4 mile road course over 11 laps = 44 miles
Pole: #21 Hendrik Ten Cate, 2:25.948 – 98.665 mph
FL: #4 Robbie Buhl, 2:27.305 – 97.756 mph on lap 11
Pos. - Grid - # - Driver – Town, State – Laps – Time – Mph – Notes
Posted 23 March 2021 - 20:05
1987 – race 10 of 12
September 6, 1987
Gunn Saab Barber Saab Pro Series – support to the IMSA Camel GT Championships
San Antonio, Texas – 50,000 spectators
30-minute race on a 1.67 mile street course over 17 laps = 28.39 miles
Pole: #21 Hendrik Ten Cate, 1:17.284 – 77.791 mph
FL: #26 Jeremy Dale, 1:17.130 – 77.946 mph on lap 11
Pos. - Grid - # - Driver – Town, State – Laps – Time – Mph – Notes
Posted 23 March 2021 - 20:12
1987 – race 11 of 12
September 27, 1987
Barber Saab Pro Series – support to the IMSA GTO/GTU Championships
Watkins Glen International – ? spectators
30-minute race on a 3.377 mile road course over 18 laps = 60.786 miles
Pole: #21 Hendrik Ten Cate, 1:58.722 – 102.401 mph
FL: #17 Tim Colwell, 2:00.990 – 100.481 mph on lap 14
Pos. - Grid - # - Driver – Town, State – Laps – Time – Mph – Notes
Edited by 70JesperOH, 23 March 2021 - 20:13.
Posted 23 March 2021 - 20:21
1987 – race 12 of 12
November 1, 1987
Gulf Bank International Barber Saab Pro Series – support to the Nissan Indy Challenge
Tamiami Park, Florida – ? spectators
30-minute race on a 1.78 mile street course over 20 laps = 35 miles
Pole: #2 Juan Fangio II, 1:12.074 – 87.410 mph
FL: #3 Bruce Feldman, 1:23.029 – 75.877 mph on lap 20 – wet race?
Pos. - Grid - # - Driver – Town, State – Laps – Time – Mph – Notes
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Posted 23 March 2021 - 20:34
Don't worry, Jesper and Allen, I am updating my Excel file as we speak, and have been doing so the last few weeks - I have now almost 5,000 lines of data, with virtually complete results for the years 1995 to 2001, also many practice times. You will both get a copy, and Doug will get the update, too! Just give me a day or two.
Posted 24 March 2021 - 11:07
For what it's worth, here is my points table from the year in question. clearly not as full of information compared to Michael's earlier post, but it serves my requirements
1987 Barber Saab Pro Series Best 10 Miami Rd At Lime M Ohio Summ Port Sears WG Rd Am San A WG Miami Results Ken Murillo 1st 1st - 2nd 2nd 6th 2nd 1st 2nd 3rd - 7th 142 Bruce Feldman 2nd 4th 1st 5th - 7th 6th 2nd 3rd 1st 1st 4th 136 Jeremy Dale 4th 3rd 5th 1st 3rd 4th 1st 5th 1st 6th - - 126 Tim Colwell - - 2nd 3rd 1st 1st 4th - 5th 4th 2nd 3rd 122 Greg Hobbs 5th 6th 3rd 4th 5th 9th 5th - - - - - 54 Hendrik ten Cate - - - - - - 7th 3rd 6th 5th 5th 2nd 53 Robbie Buhl - - - - 4th 2nd 8th 9th 4th - 4th 8th 53 Mark Wyborny 3rd 2nd - - - 3rd 3rd - - - - - 51 Andy Swett - - - 7th 7th 10th - 7th 7th - 6th 5th 31 John Estupinan - - - - - 5th - - - 7th 3rd - 24 Stephen Hynes - 8th 9th 8th 6th 8th 10th - 9th - 7th - 24 Juan-Manuel Fangio - - - - - - - - - - - 1st 20 Bobby Carville - - - - - - - 4th - - - 6th 16 William Henderson - - - - - - - - - 2nd - - 15 Jeff Simpson - 7th 4th - - - - - - - - - 14 Mark Brainerd - 5th - 6th - - - - - - - - 14 Giuseppe Cipriani - - - 9th 8th - - 6th - - - - 11 Charles Willis - 9th - 10th 9th - - - - - 9th - 7 Willy Lewis - - 6th - - - - - - - - - 6 Tom Rojewski 6th - - - - - - - - - - - 6 Brian Bonner - - - - - - - - - 9th 8th - 5 Fomfar 7th - - - - - - - - - - - 4 Jeff Purner - - 7th - - - - - - - - - 4 Bob Reid - - - - - - - 8th - - 10th - 4 Scott Anderson - - - - - - - - - 8th - - 3 Mike Ciasulli 8th - - - - - - - - - - - 3 Daniel Hauri - - 8th - - - - - - - - - 3 Steve Levinsohn - - - - - - - - 8th - - - 3 Ben Bartel - - - - - - - - - - - 9th 2 Ray Kong - - - - - - 9th - - - - - 2 Mark Reeves 9th - - - - - - - - - - - 2 Fernando Capablanca - - - - - - - - - - - 10th 1 Michael Carscadden - - - - 10th - - - - - - - 1 Paco Diaz 10th - - - - - - - - - - - 1 John Holzman - 10th - - - - - - - - - - 1 Nick Komlyn - - - - - - - 10th - - - - 1 Terry Marshall - - - - - - - - - 10th - - 1 Denny Riga - - - - - - - - 10th - - - 1 RB Stiewing - - 10th - - - - - - - - - 1 Points System 20,15,12,10,8,6,4,3,2,1
Posted 24 March 2021 - 11:10
Oh dear, my attempt to simply copy and past a spreadsheet on here has clearly failed this technophobe. If you'd rather I email the document, then message me email details.
I should also add that a point for pole position hadn't been introduced in 1987 (just in case but you're not aware of that)
Edited by Rob1959, 24 March 2021 - 11:17.
Posted 24 March 2021 - 11:54
Thanks for sharing your data on 1989 Michael. If anyone has got the results for those three rounds marked in yellow (Jesper, do you have the data?), I'm sure both Michael and myself would be grateful if these are posted on here.
Rob
Posted 24 March 2021 - 11:55
Here are the pages from On Track that I sent Doug. These are just to show what sort of info was available in On Track.
https://www.oldracin...6-09-15-090.jpg
https://www.oldracin...7-02-16-042.jpg
https://www.oldracin...7-02-16-043.jpg
I had forgotten you can't just post up attachments on this forum!
Posted 24 March 2021 - 12:10
Thanks for sharing your data on 1989 Michael. If anyone has got the results for those three rounds marked in yellow (Jesper, do you have the data?), I'm sure both Michael and myself would be grateful if these are posted on here.
Rob
1987 is the only year I have results like what I posted earlier, and I'm not shure if non-starters are missing from the 1987 IMSA book. The only other source I have are from Autosport.
Last night I discovered something that looked like it's possible to copy and paste a spread sheat to these pages, but never got around to trying it, but I'll have a look later today.
Jesper OH
Posted 24 March 2021 - 19:18
I have a very few non-starters in my records, and I believe there were generally none, unless someone wrecked in practice and was unable to afford the repairs. Remember, all the cars were prepared by SBRS, and it wouldn't have looked good if a driver missed a race because of mechanical problems. In fact, all but a very few race retirements were because of accidents - those cars were pretty simple and rugged, and unless you abused them they ran like clockwork. Also, there were apparently no minimum requirements to start a race, and even drivers who were several seconds off the pace were allowed to start - SBRS were happy to take the money, after all!
Thanks to all the posts in this thread, I have now been able to complete my initial task of finding the top six finishers for each race - Allen's scan of the On Track report from Lime Rock was the final clincher, which allowed me to reconstruct three other races from points standings... just! Thanks to all those who have posted, and I will come back with a couple of overall statistics. Now that my initial task is fulfilled, I have come so close to complete results for all races that I will not stop here, of course, so if anyone has something to add, feel free to post away....
Posted 25 March 2021 - 17:50
Pos. # DRIVER BestP. Points R01 R02 R03 R04 R05 R06 R07 R08 R09 R10 R11 R12 1. 33 KEN MURILLO 1. 142 20 20 [22] 15 15 6 15 20 15 12 [16] 4 2. 3 BRUCE FELDMAN 1. 136 15 10 20 8 [19] 4 6 15 12 20 20 10 3. 26 JEREMY DALE 1. 126 10 12 8 20 12 10 20 8 20 6 [15] [23] 4. 17 TIM COLWELL 1. 122 [14] 15 12 20 20 10 [14] 8 10 15 12 5. 1 GREG HOBBS 3. 54 8 6 12 10 8 2 8 [13] [18] [18] 6. 21 HENDRIK TEN CATE 2. 53 4 12 6 8 8 15 7. 4 ROBBIE BUHL 2. 53 [21] [22] 10 15 3 2 10 [15] 10 3 8. 9 MARK WYBORNY 2. 51 12 15 [13] 12 12 [23] [19] 9. 57 ANDY SWETT 5. 31 [19] [15] 4 4 1 4 4 [17] 6 8 10. 81 JOHN ESTUPINAN 3. 24 [22] [11] [19] [18] [18] 8 [16] [12] [22] 4 12 [13] 11. 7 STEPHEN HYNES 6. 24 [25] 3 2 3 6 3 1 2 [11] 4 [14] 12. 2 JUAN FANGIO II 1. 20 20 13. 9+14 BOBBY CARVILLE 4. 16 10 6 14. 8 WILLIAM HENDERSON 2. 15 15 15. 25+15 JEFF SIMPSON 4. 14 4 10 [21] 16. 99 MARK BRAINARD 5. 14 [18] 8 [23] 6 17. 27 GUISEPPE CIPRIANI 6. 11 [24] [14] 2 3 [11] 6 [25] [22] 18. 5 CHARLES WILLIS 9. 7 [11] 2 1 2 [11] [13] 2 [16] 19. 21 TOM ROJEWSKI 6. 6 6 [20] [11] [17] 19. 80 WILLY LEWIS 6. 6 6 21. 19 BRIAN BONNER 8. 5 [12] [15] [16] 2 3 [26] 22. 12 "FOMFOR" 7. 4 4 22. 8 JEFF PURNER 7. 4 4 24. 2 BOB REID 8. 4 3 1 25. 2 DANIEL HAURI 8. 3 3 [12] 25. 18 MIKE CIASULLI 8. 3 3 [20] [14] [19] 25. 99 SCOTT ANDERSON 8. 3 3 [13] [15] 25. 25+99 STEVE LEVINSOHN 8. 3 [13] 3 29. 71 BEN BARTEL 9. 2 2 29. 50 MARK REEVES 9. 2 2 29. 8 RAY KONG 9. 2 [11] 2 32. 88 DENNY RIGA 10. 1 [12] [16] [16] [13] 1 [24] 32. 44+22 FERNANDO CAPABLANCA 10. 1 [19] 1 32. 22+37 JOHN HOLTZMAN 10. 1 1 [17] 32. 44+10 MICHAEL CARSCADDEN 10. 1 [17] 1 [14] [15] [16] 32. 8 NICK KOMLYN 10. 1 [12] [20] 1 [24] [14] [20] 32. 11 PACO DIAZ 10. 1 1 32. 44+15 R B STIEWING 10. 1 1 [18] 32. 25 TERRY MARSHALL 10. 1 [17] [14] 1 [18] NC 9 CHRISTIAN SCHNEIDER 11. 0 [11] NC 2 DANNY GURNEY 11. 0 [11] NC 11 JEFF BUTZ 11. 0 [18] [24] [13] [11] [12] [11] NC 5 MIKE ALLISON 11. 0 [11] [12] NC 55 JOHN FINCH 12. 0 [12] [17] [16] [16] NC 18 KEN NEAL 12. 0 [12] NC 44 KEN SMITH 12. 0 [12] NC 71 MARK BEHM 12. 0 [12] NC 56 TERRY McKENNA 12. 0 [12] [21] NC 44 BILL GURLEY 13. 0 [13] NC 11 GREG GALLASPY 13. 0 [13] [21] NC 8+56 KEN BEHR 13. 0 [13] [25] NC 5 WIN MAYNARD 13. 0 [13] NC 10 JOHN HAYES-HARLOW 14. 0 [14] NC 9 PIERRE HUANG 14. 0 [14] NC 19 R J ROSE 14. 0 [19] [14] NC 2 TOM ALLEN 14. 0 [15] [14] NC 19 GRANT RYAN 15. 0 [15] NC 6 JAMES LEE 15. 0 [15] NC 11 MIKE SILCOX 15. 0 [15] NC 2+71 REX McDANIEL 15. 0 [15] [16] NC 19 RUSSELL ROE 15. 0 [15] NC 93 RON PAWLEY 16. 0 [16] [16] [19] [17] NC 11 GEORGE BRUGGENTHIES 17. 0 [17] NC 25 JOE PEZZA 17. 0 [18] [17] NC 22 MICKEY MINAGORRI 17. 0 [17] NC 25 DAVID PHELAN 18. 0 [18] NC 30 PAUL BRIAN 19. 0 [19] NC 57 ERIC KIELTS 20. 0 [20] NC 6 TED WOERNER 20. 0 [20] NC 17 RICHARD MYHRE 21. 0 [21] NC 30 WALTER RILEY 23. 0 [23] NC 2 ZOLTAN POLONY 23. 0 [23]
1987 IMSA Barber Saab Pro Series final standings according to the 1987 IMSA yearbook. Finishers in the points according to the book, the rest according to me ranked after best race finish outside points positions.
Points for top-10 finishes distributed as 20-15-12-10-8-6-4-3-2-1. [x] finishes outside top-10.
It took an extra day to get the table to this stage, but worthwhile.
Jesper OH
Posted 25 March 2021 - 18:23
Looks very good!