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#1 Risil

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 21:28

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Hello, Indycar fans, well-wishers, ill-wishers and apathetic people who don't have F1 to watch this weekend! Have I got a treat(???) for you! A mere fourteen nights after Helio Castroneves done his fourth Indy 500 win and then ran around the frontstretch like a lunatic before his superego regained control, the championship will have reached its halfway point after a couple of bumpy, twisty, difficult, maybe entertaining, possibly worthwhile Grands Prix around the racetrack at Belle Isle Park, a mere bridgespan away (alternatively: half a river) from the Michiganic city of motors, Detroit. You may recall earlier in the year that we watched an absolute shower of a race from 1989 at F1's old Detroit circuit near the GM headquarters. Well, this is nothing like that. The layout is more sinuous, the track is slightly less prone to breaking up (except in 2012) and it has a wider variety of road surfaces. All this adds up to: fun? At any rate you can watch the cars count down the laps in tribute to the relentless passage of time, nor all thy piety and wit shall lure it back to cancel half a line.

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Anyway! The Indy 500 double points fiasco in the rear view mirror, I feel brave enough to look at the championship table. What do I see? I see the empenaltied Alex Palou (six grid places in race 1, for an unlicensed engine change at Indy) leading his Ganassi teammate Scott Dixon by almost a whole victory's heap of points. Pato O'Ward sits a point behind Dixon and Simon Pagenaud a ways back, top Penske though he is, in fourth.

 

1. Alex Palou (Ganassi) - 248 points

2. Scott Dixon (Ganassi) - 212 points

3. Pato O'Ward (McSchmidt) - 211 points

4. Simon Pagenaud (Penske) - 201 points

5. Rinus Veekay (Carpenter) - 191 points

6. Josef Newgarden (Penske) - 184 points

 

Behind those six are your Hertas, Rahals, McLaughlins; or worse still your Powers, Rossis and Rosenqvists who are far enough back that the championship pressure is off. There are upwards of 100 points to be won in Detroit this weekend, but the bird of time has but a little way to fly -- and lo! the bird is on the wing. Well enough of this maudlin Victoriana. I have a schedule below but what I'd really like is to hear your favourite 19th century verse what you think about everyone's chances at Belle Isle this weekend. In the meantime, schedule:

 

Friday, 11 June

8-9.30am: IMSA practice 1

12 noon-1.40pm: IMSA practice 2

2.30-3: Indy Lights qualifying for race 1

3.30-4.35: IMSA qualifying

5: Indycar practice

 

Saturday, 12 June

9.30-9.50am: Indy Lights qualifying for race 2

10.10-10.30: IMSA warm-up

11-11.45: Indycar qualifying for race 1

12.10pm: Indy Lights race 1

2.05: Indycar race 1

5.10: IMSA race

 

Sunday, 13 June
9.15-10am: Indycar qualifying for race 2

10.35: Indy Lights race 2

12.50: Indycar race 2

 

Detroit is on eastern time so presumably you have to add 5 hours to get the UK times, or 6 hours if you're in western Europe. Anyway. The caravan starts for the dawn of nothing. Let's go!



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#2 red stick

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 21:35

Excellent.
For Rossi, anything less than a championship this year was purportedly a failure. Maybe partial redemption, if that is even possible in his mind, starts here.
Rosenqvist switched teams, to much fanfare, and now his old car leads the championship. He should probably be talking to Hinch. I doubt the pressure is "off." :)

Edited by red stick, 10 June 2021 - 21:36.


#3 Risil

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 21:46

Felix isn't on the Hot Seat for a third successive year, is he?? In this case, anything but as good as it looks.

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 22:04

His teammate is killing him. And Felix is 20th in the standings, 1 point ahead of Grosjean, 3 of Kanaan, both of whom have only started 3 races. If you are what your record says you are . . .

If we had to pick a "biggest enigma" so far this season, my vote goes here.

Edited by red stick, 10 June 2021 - 22:06.


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Posted 10 June 2021 - 22:13

Race starts at 4.05am Sunday and 2.50am Monday for those interested on the east coast of Australia.

I will watch the first race but the second race time is pretty brutal...

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#6 prommer

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 00:04

That was a painful two weeks off! A doubleheader makes up for the wait, at least.

 

And, as ever:



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Posted 11 June 2021 - 00:09

And, as ever:

I was watching some CART races from 1999 the other day. After two decades that lap still gives me goosebumps. Heroic.

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 02:37

I was watching some CART races from 1999 the other day. After two decades that lap still gives me goosebumps. Heroic.

 

It's that magical little spark off the wall in the final corner, the chef's kiss on the lap, as it were.  Just full out, and if he had gone 2 inches wider his lap would've been done for.

 

Not unlike the benediction that Willy P got from the Turn 2 wall a couple weeks ago.  It's like IMS was saying, okay, you've suffered enough, I'll let you have this one.  :stoned:



#9 rghojai

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 07:10

Hoping for more pace carnage.

#10 jonpollak

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 08:57

Speaking to those who have been sparked by this ‘new’ discovery recently.

“The less we love her when we woo her,
The more we draw a woman in.”

Jp

#11 Risil

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 13:01

Never too late to discover Pushkin.

Max, I saw on the website there are 25 cars this weekend. Feels good?

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 13:04

Never too late to discover Pushkin.

Max, I saw on the website there are 25 cars this weekend. Feels good?

 

Feels better than 24, yessir!  Although I can't contain my disappointment that Helio's win didn't result in him finishing out the entire season to ride the sponsorship momentum, and making it 26!  :lol:

 

FINALLY another IndyCar race!  Can't wait!!  :love:

 

and then the next day

 

FINALLY another IndyCar race!  Can't wait!!  :love:  :love:



#13 FLB

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 13:51

Hoping for more pace carnage.

What... A single wrecked Corvette in front of an international audience wasn't enough for you?  :kiss:  :p



#14 paulb

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 14:29

What... A single wrecked Corvette in front of an international audience wasn't enough for you? :kiss: :p

That was stellar moment. Wasn’t it driven by an auto industry executive?

#15 red stick

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 14:42

GM exec Mark Reuss.

 

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Fortunately, it was a C7 . . .   :cool:


Edited by red stick, 11 June 2021 - 17:35.


#16 HeadFirst

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 14:48

Speaking to those who have been sparked by this ‘new’ discovery recently.

“The less we love her when we woo her,
The more we draw a woman in.”

Jp

 

I go by .... "The less we woo her, when we love her

                   The more we draw a woman in."



#17 jonpollak

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 15:22

woo Who?

Anyway... I notice SkyF1 has ignored the practice session tonight at 10 pm BST. That’s a first this year. I won’t complain.
Jp

#18 red stick

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 15:23

Still partial to the English Romantics, myself.

#19 Alan Lewis

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 16:18

Still partial to the English Romantics, myself.


Duran Duran? Spandau Ballet?

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#20 red stick

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 17:19

Duran Duran? Spandau Ballet?

Not even as parody!   :lol:

Not that my recent Van Halen parody went over any better.   :smoking:



#21 maximilian

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 20:36

25 minutes to Praccy!  :love:



#22 prommer

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 21:01

Is there really only one free practice this entire weekend? I know it's busy with IMSA there, but sheesh!

 

Does Grosjean have access to this track on a simulator?



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Posted 11 June 2021 - 21:15

Is there really only one free practice this entire weekend? I know it's busy with IMSA there, but sheesh!

 

Does Grosjean have access to this track on a simulator?

 

Super tough, yes!  And now a red flag, too!



#24 maximilian

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 21:17

2 rookies bin it at the same time...



#25 prommer

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 21:18

2 rookies bin it at the same time...

 

Grosjean driving by them...

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#26 maximilian

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 21:20

He could be next!   ;)



#27 Risil

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 21:30

Jimmie Johnson (who?) currently P15! Oops, live timing just updated and now he's down to twenty-third.

#28 Risil

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 21:31

Good to see Rossi running good times so far.

#29 prommer

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 21:34

Scotty owns his "rookie mistake", but it's going to be very costly if he missed the entire (and only!) practice session for it.



#30 paulb

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 21:36

Who is this Hunter-Reay fellow at the top of the timesheet?

#31 prommer

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 21:52

He could be next!   ;)

 

I think he just escaped your jinx by a whisker!



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Posted 11 June 2021 - 21:56

I sense a Pato vs Herta.
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#33 FLB

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 21:58

Andrettis have been quick at times this year. It's the execution in the races that's the problem (except for Hertamania at St.Pete, of course).


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#34 paulb

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 22:09

I think its going to be a long weekend for Jimmy.

Oh look, there’s Bourdais!

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 22:15

 

Oh look, there’s Bourdais!

 

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#36 jonpollak

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 22:36

djwillyPOWA!!!!
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#37 teejay

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Posted Yesterday, 04:55

Will cost Scotty greatly given it takes some time to get sorted around here. 



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Posted Yesterday, 06:06

 

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I'm watching this movie now.



#39 krapmeister

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Posted Yesterday, 08:21

Will cost Scotty greatly given it takes some time to get sorted around here.


Yes a bit unfortunate - I guess Race 1 will basically be preparation for Race 2.

I forgot it was a public holiday on Monday so will be better placed to watch Race 2 now, rather than having to go into work. Will still be brutal though, kids won't care if Dad didn't get enough sleep 😅

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Posted Yesterday, 10:10

Yes a bit unfortunate - I guess Race 1 will basically be preparation for Race 2.

I forgot it was a public holiday on Monday so will be better placed to watch Race 2 now, rather than having to go into work. Will still be brutal though, kids won't care if Dad didn't get enough sleep

 

Haha... been there, done that... Kids are well gone. Now it's - the dogs don't care if dad hasn't had enough sleep....



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Posted Yesterday, 10:28

Haha... been there, done that... Kids are well gone. Now it's - the dogs don't care if dad hasn't had enough sleep....


Kids want a dog. I said nope, don't need another dependant. Kids kept pestering. I said ok, we can get a dog. But one of you has to go. Kids haven't asked about a dog since lol...

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Kids want a dog. I said nope, don't need another dependant. Kids kept pestering. I said ok, we can get a dog. But one of you has to go. Kids haven't asked about a dog since lol...

Excellent strategy. More effective than the “you have to take care of the beast” option. Wherein they typically answer “yes” and you eventually end up doing the dirty work.

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Posted Yesterday, 12:12

Cats. Show them their food, water, and litter box, and they largely take care of themselves.

Is this the first race where Grosjean and Magnussen have been reunited? Kevin might have some pointers given Romain's interest in American endurance racing.

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Kids want a dog. I said nope, don't need another dependant. Kids kept pestering. I said ok, we can get a dog. But one of you has to go. Kids haven't asked about a dog since lol...


Not even individually, trying to get rid of brother/sister and replace with dog..?

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Posted Yesterday, 12:25

Is this the first race where Grosjean and Magnussen have been reunited? Kevin might have some pointers given Romain's interest in American endurance racing.

I believe so. Michelin has appareltly done something with the both of them: 

 

Michelin Racing USA sur Twitter : "Former F1 teammates reunited at @detroitgp for first time since Bahrain GP. @KevinMagnussen racing for @IMSA - @RGrosjean for @IndyCar. We recorded the two catching up - stay tuned for that fascinating conversation. #IMSA / #lNDYCAR / #DetroitGP https://t.co/KNGqeBcuHo" / Twitter



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Posted Yesterday, 12:34

Not even individually, trying to get rid of brother/sister and replace with dog..?

 

The dog can't play Minecraft  :p



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Posted Yesterday, 12:38

Excellent strategy. More effective than the “you have to take care of the beast” option. Wherein they typically answer “yes” and you eventually end up doing the dirty work.

 

Yep I know that is how it will go down - I have some friends who have fallen into that trap and are now stuck with looking after the dog while the kids do sweet FA.

 

The kids are free to get a dog when they have their own place  :up:



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Posted Yesterday, 12:46

Cats. Show them their food, water, and litter box, and they largely take care of themselves.
 

 

TBH I actually wouldn't mind a cat because as you say they aren't as much work as a dog, but my wife doesn't like them. Kids haven't even mentioned wanting a cat either, but even if they did then SWMBO would be the bad guy instead of me  :)


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#49 jonpollak

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Posted Yesterday, 13:03

Re: Picks
I’m picking cars with the pride colors for all my LBGP friends.
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#50 Risil

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Posted Yesterday, 13:07

Oh boy, picks! Thanks for reminding me. I'm putting Rossi in.