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[prommer]

 

We've turned the corner on the Indycar season, and round 9 brings us to Canada Corner, et alii, that is, the Rev Group Grand Prix at Road America aka Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin.  After this weekend, and indeed, after a wonderful two months of steady action, the second half of the Indycar season will sputter in fits and starts, taking months off at a time for an Olympics that few of us can attend; a cancelled Toronto race due to the border being closed (which is looking like there will not be a replacement race, sorry Watkins Glen), and the rescheduling of Texas to early May.  In between off weeks, however, we do have four midwestern races (Mid-Ohio, Gateway/St. Louis, Indy road course part deux, and the new Nashville amphibious street race) and a juicy West Coast swing to close it out in September (Portland, Laguna Seca, and Long Beach). So enjoy this fun Haas reunion day while you can. Maybe even Lewis will get on Instagram and write about "proper tracks" again this year.

 

Here's the Schedule:

(Wisconsin is on Central time, but the following times listed are EASTERN.  Do with that as thou wilt.)

 

Friday:

5pm - 5:45pm EDT Practice 1

Saturday:

11am - 11:45 EDT Practice 2

QUALIFYING: 2:30pm - 3:45pm 

5:30pm - 6pm EDT talkin' 'bout more Practice (3)

Sunday

RACE: 12:00 noon-ish, maybe 12:40pm-like EDT (depending on NBC's dedication to other more popular sports such as javelin catching)

 

I cadged this from Scott McLaughlin's tweet, as he appears to be better at informing people of the race times than frickin' NBC.

 

 

Here's the Track Map:

 

 

Here's the Latest Weather Map:

 

(@Indycar_wxman)

 

Here's the Standings:

1. Pato O'Ward (299)

2. Alex Palou (298)

3. Scott Dixon (263)

4. Josef Newgarden (248)

5. Rinus VeeKay (243)

6. Simon Pagenaud (243)

7. Marcus Ericsson (211)

 

What happened in Detroit last week?

What DIDN'T happen in Detroit last week...

 

Here's who's in/who's out

Well now. Rinus Veekay had an cycling mishap this week and broke his collarbone. It is now held together with a number of screws. Old timers might recall Josef Newgarden having a similar injury and coming back two weeks later to win a race. However, no amount of Bitcoin can get Veekay cleared for this weekend, so his old Indy Lights rival Oliver Askew will be driving his #21 Ed Carpenter Racing car. 

 

 

Askew, I can tell you, was in a McLaren for Race Two last week after Felix Rosenqvist's scary stuck throttle err sorry, singular, non-recurring mechanical fault in Race One; Rosey's still out, so say hello to Kevin Magnussen making his Indycar debut -- like, f'reals. I don't think he's even had a test day?

 

 

Cody Ware is debuting alongside Romain Grosjean for Rick Ware Racing/Dale Coyne; more likely he'll be debuting next to Jimmie Johnson in the back of the field. Only the 4 mile length of the track may keep CW and JJ on the lead lap.

 

The fussy and "interactive" spotters guide, with some other HTML5 whoop de doos, is here.

 

Here's Beer, Brats and Cheese

 

 

[jcbc3]

Mmmmh, cheese curds

[Peat]

Ummm. Curds. 
I did a search and found that a place in Oxford serves Poutine as a side dish. I must sample. 

[SenorSjon]

Curds? WTH is that?

[OvDrone]

I thought that a 'curd' was what EJ Viso's Indycar career was.

[GlenWatkins]

Curds? WTH is that?

 

It's just cheddar cheese that has not been aged.  Also called curdled milk.

[jonpollak]

Kurds have been neglected for far too long.
Jp

[krapmeister]

I cadged this from Scott McLaughlin's tweet, as he appears to be better at informing people of the race times than frickin' NBC.

Great OP and thank-you for posting this link to Scotty Mac's tweet - made me realise I screwed up the qualy time I posted in the season thread. D'oh!

[Risil]

Ummm. Curds. 
I did a search and found that a place in Oxford serves Poutine as a side dish. I must sample. 

 

There was a stall in Gloucester Green market that did poutine a few years ago -- not sure if it's still there.

[paulb]

Nice OP, prommer. Especially for the midnight shift.

 

I wonder what the cheesiest moment of the weekend will be?

[maximilian]

Cheese Kurd at your service:

 

[maximilian]

FINALLY another IndyCar race!  Can't wait!! 

[red stick]

Wisconsin being America's Dairyland, any backroads trip in farm country will take you past countless signs at dairy farms offering curds for sale. They probably won't have Dill Garlic or Pizza-flavored varieties, but stop there anyway, not the more commercial establishments.  You won't be disappointed. 

Edited by red stick, 18 June 2021 - 12:57.

[Alan Lewis]

There is also lemon curd, which has nothing to do with cheese but is utterly delicious... https://www.bbc.co.u...emon_curd_68499

[krapmeister]

Lemon curd is the best 

[BiggestBuddyLazierFan]

Freedom to Kurdistan!

[red stick]

Free Tibet.

[red stick]

[red stick]

Before Road America.

 

Alliteration tradition continues at Canada Corner.  Poutine stand probably not there yet.  

 

 

 

https://www.elkhartl...c-race-circuit/

 

Also, thank you, Roger Warrick.

 

Edited by red stick, 18 June 2021 - 13:53.

[teejay]

Someone should have stuck Monty in a car

[djparky]

Awesome track, had a great trip there back in 2018. Kind of place that allows the cars to really show what they can do. Looking forward to this.

[Dmitriy_Guller]

Someone should have stuck Monty in a car

A couple of years ago I would've agree with you, but I think the days of Monty are behind us (apart from Indy, where experience can mask decline for a long while).  If you gave me the choice of seeing what Magnussen can do, and what JPM can do, I'd definitely go for Magnussen.  He's got his task cut out for him, Indycars take a while to get to grips with, but if he surprises us, it could be gold.

[red stick]

I'd like to see what Magnussen can do, but as he has substantial commitments in sports cars, altering his career arc will take a fair amount of money.  The question, if he does well, is how much does AMSP, or anybody else, want him?  We will be able to quantify that. 

Edited by red stick, 18 June 2021 - 13:25.

[Risil]

I think we'll need a Magnussen top 5 as a necessary (but not sufficient) cause for IndyKevin to gain momentum. Anything less and I don't think there'll be enough motivation on either side.

[red stick]

Nice OP, prommer. Especially for the midnight shift.

 

I wonder what the cheesiest moment of the weekend will be?

Something out of Turn 3.  Early.

[DS27]

I can't believe there is only one Indycar race this weekend - outrageous.

[juicy sushi]

*rubs hands together with glee*  Time for my favourite race of the year.  Although I'm still so annoyed they won't do it as a double header.  There is literally no reason not to double the fun.

[red stick]

I can't believe there is only one Indycar race this weekend - outrageous.

It's a familiar story--pushers creating demand they have NO intention of adequately supplying . . .

 

. . . remembers to refill bird feeders.

[red stick]

Fantasy notes:

 

Ganassi won both races here last year.

 

Magnussen slots in at $19.  Grosjean $22.  Askew $21.  Ware $18.  Kellett and 7X, for perspective, both $18.  McLaughlin $22.

[juicy sushi]

For those who might not be aware of what they're in for, there is a wide variety of tasting samples for you to try.

 

We have CART Classic:

 

And New IndyCar's finest from last year:

Edited by juicy sushi, 18 June 2021 - 14:52.

[markpenske]

Lemon curd is the best 

you obviously never had buffalo curds

[red stick]

you obviously never had buffalo curds

Can't roller skate in those, either, I'd imagine.  

 

Edited by red stick, 18 June 2021 - 15:04.

[red stick]

Fantasy notes:

 

Ganassi won both races here last year.

 

Magnussen slots in at $19.  Grosjean $22.  Askew $21.  Ware $18.  Kellett and 7X, for perspective, both $18.  McLaughlin $22.

Well, now I've done it.  In order to get the people I want at the top of the order, I have an all HAAS undercard.  

 

Go, Team Gene!

[shotcaller]

Road America always makes me thing of the horrible Katherine Legge broken rear wing crash.  https://youtu.be/ZCI-QSt0hpE

[red stick]

Before Barber opened and I became a regular visitor there, Road America was my most visited track, but for vintage racing--the 30th anniversary of Can-Am in 1996, Chaparrals in 2001, Vintage Formula One, back when it was relatively new in the States, in 2002, and the Scarab reunion in 2008.  I went for the ALMS/Champ Car weekend in 2007 (the first time Power and Pagenaud were teammates, and when Bourdais ruled), but Road America for me is GT40s, Lotus 23s, F5000 cars, Lola T70s, Oscar Koveleski, Tony Abramowicz, and McLaren Can-Am cars.  I will have to go to a modern race, but having your fondest memory be seeing a Brabham BT33 or a Chaparral 2E up close isn't bad either. 

[loki]

Someone should have stuck Monty in a car

[prommer]

Wisconsin being America's Dairyland, any backroads trip in farm country will take you past countless signs at dairy farms offering curds for sale. They probably won't have Dill Garlic or Pizza-flavored varieties, but stop there anyway, not the more commercial establishments.  You won't be disappointed. 

 

I have a Wisconsinite friend who did just that, stuck the cheese in a cooler and brought it to Las Vegas and gave me some a couple years ago. Delicious fresh young curds, so squeaky it alerted the neighbors.  Just heavenly.

 

[red stick]

Ah, the squeak. I'd forgotten about that, but always a prime indicator of curd freshness!

The IndyCar threads. Come for the racing, stay for the travelogue!

[prommer]

Scott McLaughlin @smclaughlin93  28m

Just had a cheese curd, very very very good, weighing in heavy post practice 1 today! #ScottLearnsAmerica

 

[OvDrone]

I am baffled and in a sort of bizarre terror at the thought of so much cheese and in that way.

[Jim Thurman]

Before Barber opened and I became a regular visitor there, Road America was my most visited track, but for vintage racing--the 30th anniversary of Can-Am in 1996, Chaparrals in 2001, Vintage Formula One, back when it was relatively new in the States, in 2002, and the Scarab reunion in 2008.  I went for the ALMS/Champ Car weekend in 2007 (the first time Power and Pagenaud were teammates, and when Bourdais ruled), but Road America for me is GT40s, Lotus 23s, F5000 cars, Lola T70s, Oscar Koveleski, Tony Abramowicz, and McLaren Can-Am cars.  I will have to go to a modern race, but having your fondest memory be seeing a Brabham BT33 or a Chaparral 2E up close isn't bad either. 

 

Erm, rs, I think you mean Tony Adamowicz, "Tony A to Z." Danny Abramowicz is in the New Orleans Saints Hall of Fame and was a heck of a good wide receiver   Tony A. was a good all arounder. I didn't see a Brabham BT33 or Chaparral 2E up close, let alone a GT40, but did see F5000 and Can-Am cars very much up close.

 

As a typical Indycar thread aside, my brother worked with someone who bought a new car from Tony Adamowicz when he worked at a dealership in So Cal. They had no idea who he was, but my brother did, and figured out who it was just from their description. His business card confirmed it. 

[Jim Thurman]

Just so we don't get confused, poutine is a Quebecois thing, Montreal, correct?  ...but not a Wisconsin thing.

 

Wisconsin is known for cheese, brats, cheese curds, but not poutine (though I'm sure you can probably find it there).

[PayasYouRace]

Plus subscribers can read a good half-time review.

 

https://www.autospor...so-far/6581573/

[Risil]

Just so we don't get confused, poutine is a Quebecois thing, Montreal, correct? ...but not a Wisconsin thing.

Wisconsin is known for cheese, brats, cheese curds, but not poutine (though I'm sure you can probably find it there).

Indeed, poutine is an import, in this case from another thread. Not sure how it got past customs. Can't get the staff...

[prommer]

True, true, but one easily leads to the other, Jim. 

 

Jeff Pappone  @jpappone  1h

 

Someone needs to introduce @smclaughlin93 to #Poutine. Over to you

@Hinchtown

#CanadaFood

 

James Hinchcliffe @Hinchtown

12m

 

On it

 

[Myrvold]

What's the next thing we will put on the agenda that "coincidentally" arrives in IndyCar later?

[BRG]

 

 

It's cheese,Jim, but not as we know it.....

 

¿Dónde está el manchego?  Où est le camembert ? Waar is de gouda?

 

[prommer]

Meanwhile, VK and SQ having some fun today.

 

ps. just because Rinus is in his firesuit, DON'T pick him in the Fantasy League, even though he's clearly still listed.

 

pps. On second though, DO pick Rinus in the Fantasy League. I need all the help I can get.

 

@ECRIndy

[boomn]

What's the next thing we will put on the agenda that "coincidentally" arrives in IndyCar later?

Karen Gillan, on the Indy 500 girlfriend camera

[SKL]

Best race at best track in the USA...  never missed a year from 1967 to 2015... then we moved to AZ and they promptly dropped the race at PIR...

 

Guess I'll just have to cook my own brats this weekend...