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[Jon Saltinstall]

As some TNFers are aware, after the positive response to the "Niki Lauda: His Competition History", for some time now I have been working on a similar book detailing the racing career of Jacky Ickx. This will be the first time the great Belgian's career has been examined in a fully English language publication and the intention is to be as comprehensive as was the Lauda tome.

 

I have been fortunate to have already received a great deal of support in the undertaking, which is progressing well, but inevitably with the approach of "a photo from every race"  to back up the reports, there are a few images that are proving elusive and several more where I would like to have something better than those I have already identified. To this end, can anyone help with photos of Jacky at the following specific events? We will of course provide full accreditation and settle any necessary licensing fees.

 

If it's easier to discuss off line, please send me a PM and I will let you have my personal email address, which may also be the best medium for sharing images.

 

If I may make a plea not to send any photos from races not included on the list; as you can imagine, in a career as long as Jacky's there are an awful lot of events he contested and I have trawled through thousands of images across dozens of archives to find these. A handful of the races listed below are ones where I have no photo; the rest fall into the "would like better" category, hence me seeking help from this forum.

 

So, to the races - 

 

25 Aug 1963 - ETCC Zolder -BMW 700S #5 

19 Apr 1964 - La Roche-Samree Hillclimb - BMW 700S #?

31 May 1964 - Herbeumont-Ste Cécile Hillclimb - Ford Cortina GT #? 

05 Jul 1964 - Benelux Cup Zandvoort - BMW 700S #?

12 Jul 1964 - Gîves Hillclimb - BMW 700S #?

13 Sep 1964 - Timmelsjoch Hillclimb - Ford Cortina Lotus #?37

14 Mar 1965 - Alle-Sur-Semois Hillclimb - Ford Cortina Lotus #45

11 Apr 1965 - La Roche-Samrée Hillclimb - Ford Cortina Lotus #?

30 May 1965 - Herbeumont-Ste Cecile Hillclimb - Ford Cortina Lotus #? 

Late 1965 - Tyrrell Test F3 Goodwood - Cooper T75-BRM 

11 Apr 1966 - BARC 200, Goodwood F2 - Matra MS5 #8

12 Jun 1966 - Mid America Trans-Am - Ford Cortina Lotus #2

09 Jul 1966 - AMOC Trophy, Silverstone F3 - Matra MS5 #38

14 Aug1966 - Marlboro Speedway 12 hrs Trans-Am - Ford Cortina Lotus with Hahne #23

11 Sep 1966 - Coupes de l'Avenir, Zolder F2 - Brabham BT18 #30

18 Sep 1966 - Craven A Trophy Bugatti Le Mans F2 - Matra MS5 #16

25 Sep 1966 - Albi GP F2 - Matra MS5 #24

30 Oct 1966 - Motor Show 200, Brands Hatch F2 - Matra MS5 #15 

04 Apr 1967 - Pau GP F2 - Matra MS5 #22

24 Sep 1967 - Albi GP F2 - Matra MS5 #32 

16 Jun 1968 - Hockenheim F2 - Ferrari Dino 166 #6 

29 Jun 1969 - Reims GP F2 - Brabham BT23C #30

28 Jun 1970 - Rouen GP F2 - BMW 270 #5

26 Jul 1970 - Trophée de France, Le Castellet - BMW 270 #5 

16 Jun 1977 - IROC Michigan Race 1 - Chevrolet Camaro #15

17 Sep 1977 - IROC Michigan Race 2 - Chevrolet Camaro #10 

03 Sep 1978 - 6 Hours Vallelunga -Porsche 935-78 with Schurti #1 

22 Apr 1979 - 6 Hours Dijon - Porsche 935-77 with Wollek/Schurti #1

19 Aug 1979 - CanAm Brainerd - Lola T333CS #1 

01 Nov 1981 - London-Brighton Run - Wolseley 1899 #36 with Hastie 

8-15 Oct 1983 - Rally of the Pharaohs - Mercedes 280GE with Da Silva #1 

16 Jun 1984 - IROC Michigan 1 - Chevrolet Camaro #15

07 Jul 1984 - IROC Cleveland - Chevrolet Camaro #10

11 Aug 1984 - IROC Michigan 2 - Chevrolet Camaro #11 

17 Oct 1986 - Rally of the Pharaohs - Lada Niva with Tarin #2 

21-29 Oct 1987 - Rally of the Pharaohs - Lada Niva #6 

6-22 Oct 1995 - Rally of Tunisia - Toyota Landcruiser #215

 

Personal anecdotes are of course also very welcome!

As ever, thanks for listening and for any help you may be able to provide.

 

Jon

Edited by Jon Saltinstall, 19 July 2021 - 19:44.

[Richard Jenkins]

I really hope people can help Jon with this. He's put so much work to this already and it says a lot about his efforts that the above is all he's looking for in what is, quite frankly, a mammoth undertaking.

[wolf sun]

Bravo Jon, a mammoth undertaking indeed! 

[ensign14]

It's also a great snapshot of the eclecticism of Ickx' career, especially in later times when drivers were being funnelled into one single genre.  Just on those extracts, in three years, Ickx competed on sand and an oval, and in a formula whose criterion is pre-dating 1905...all shoehorned in around winning a world title and Le Mans.  Repeatedly.

[Collombin]

It's also a great snapshot of the eclecticism of Ickx' career

This is why I look forward to this book even more than the Lauda one.

[a_tifoosi]

Most probably you'll have already consulted Ickx's tribute website. Some of the pictures you are looking for can be found there duly accredited: for instance, the 6h of Vallelunga '78. There's also the associated Facebook group; I imagine that its members will be able to provide the contact of the authors whose pictures are published in the website.

 

 

Narcís.

[Jon Saltinstall]

Most probably you'll have already consulted Ickx's tribute website. Some of the pictures you are looking for can be found there duly accredited: for instance, the 6h of Vallelunga '78. There's also the associated Facebook group; I imagine that its members will be able to provide the contact of the authors whose pictures are published in the website.

 

 

Narcís.

 

Thanks Narcis - yes; I am indeed in touch with the administrators and members of those sites, who have played an important part in supporting the research that's been gathered so far. Of the list above, there's probably only half a dozen events where I have no image at all; it's mainly a question of me trying to find something better than I have already identified!

[Jon Saltinstall]

This is why I look forward to this book even more than the Lauda one.

 

Thanks Collumbin - it's been a great deal of fun so far! That list above barely scratches the surface of what Jacky got involved in, and so much has been previously undocumented....

 

I'm looking forward to the final results when my friends at Evro have worked their magic on it! Still a little way to go yet, though.

Edited by Jon Saltinstall, 06 July 2021 - 12:56.

[sstiel]

https://www.veterancarrun.com/news This may be able to help about Brighton Jon.

[guiporsche]

Bravo Jon! That's a very wide gap in the literature that you'll be filling, finally, so thank you. As the great man said when presenting his (latest) photo autobiography: he prefers to remember the good times and prefers photos to text. That's alright, but the result is that whatever has been published about him does not really make justice to his amazing career.

[Jon Saltinstall]

Bravo Jon! That's a very wide gap in the literature that you'll be filling, finally, so thank you. As the great man said when presenting his (latest) photo autobiography: he prefers to remember the good times and prefers photos to text. That's alright, but the result is that whatever has been published about him does not really make justice to his amazing career.

 

 

Not only that - as a succession of interviews over the last couple of decades have demonstrated, Jacky also doesn't like to talk about his achievements and prefers to focus on the people who helped him to his successes; the designers, mechanics, team owners etc. who gave him the opportunities. Whilst this is an admirable trait, and one I applaud, it means that if one asked him to write his autobiography, one wouldn't get very far!

 

The aim with this new book, as was the case with the Lauda one, is simple in concept but huge in scope; to report on each individual race that Jacky contested and illustrate it with a suitable photograph, with a narrative that is as factual and as free of opinion as possible. And so far, I am delighted to say, we are making excellent progress. I now know what I don't know, if that makes sense, and as the initial post shows, there's a relatively small number of photos that I still need to track down. Rather excited about how it's coming together, actually!

Edited by Jon Saltinstall, 21 July 2021 - 15:40.

[Alan Lewis]

Are only the four-wheeled events being covered or will his early motorcycle trial outings also be included?




Stony silence whilst the troublemaker is marched from the room...

Edited by Alan Lewis, 21 July 2021 - 19:51.

[Arjan de Roos]

I see a picture in Jonathan Thomson book "Ferrari Formula 1 Cars 1948-1976" that also depicts special monoposti like F2 of the:

 

16 Jun 1968 - Hockenheim F2 - Ferrari Dino 166 #6 

 

Most pictures seem to be provided by Geoffrey Goddard.

[Jon Saltinstall]

Are only the four-wheeled events being covered or will his early motorcycle trial outings also be included?
Stony silence whilst the troublemaker is marched from the room...

Hi Alan - it’s a fair question! The answer is in the title of the book ; “Jacky Ickx: His Competition History.” So yes, Jacky’s motorcycling career is covered fully .

[Jon Saltinstall]

I see a picture in Jonathan Thomson book "Ferrari Formula 1 Cars 1948-1976" that also depicts special monoposti like F2 of the:

16 Jun 1968 - Hockenheim F2 - Ferrari Dino 166 #6

Most pictures seem to be provided by Geoffrey Goddard.

Thanks Arjan - I’ll take a look. If there’s something in there by Mr Goddard that fits the bill, I’ll have a word with our own DCN.

Edited by Jon Saltinstall, 22 July 2021 - 21:53.

[Alan Lewis]

Hi Alan - it’s a fair question! The answer is in the title of the book ; “Jacky Ickx: His Competition History.” So yes, Jacky’s motorcycling career is covered fully .

A heroic effort.

I got the Lauda book as a Xmas present and I will definitely be getting this one.

[Jon Saltinstall]

A heroic effort.

I got the Lauda book as a Xmas present and I will definitely be getting this one.

 

Thanks Alan - your support is very much appreciated.