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#1 RA2

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 12:26

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Hoping for a exciting race with a back to front run by a Red Bull

 

 

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Expect Valteri to be on form

 

https//twitter.com/AddictedOnSport/status/1440374642544238592
 

https//twitter.com/wtf1official/status/1440376099557412876
 

 
 
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#2 Risil

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 12:27

Rain expected Saturday and Sunday?



#3 Marklar

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 12:31

its a washout. also sunset is early. could be another Spa.

At least sunday looks better than the other days

#4 SilverArrow31

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 12:32

Apparently the Sochi Autodrom has turned into the Sochi Boatdrom... inches of water on the pit straight and paddock, and as much rain expected on Saturday...

 

https://twitter.com/...384995072217101

 

https://twitter.com/...331280701222925


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#5 RC127

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 12:34

BBC Weather app just showing light rain showers Sat and Sun with more chance of showers for Sat qualifying than Sun race?

#6 Muppetmad

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 12:35

weather.com is certainly giving the impression this will be a washout. Besides F1, this would have a lot of implications for F2 and F3 too (namely, F3 would no longer have a final round).


Edited by Muppetmad, 22 September 2021 - 12:36.


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Posted 22 September 2021 - 12:39

F1,2, and 3 this weekend, no idea how they'll fit it all in with the current forecast. Crazy o'clock for those of us on BST this weekend. First F3 scheduled for 06.30 Saturday and 07.45 Sunday.

#8 Risil

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 12:40

(namely, F3 would no longer have a final round).

 

This sounds like one for the philosophers



#9 Bleu

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 12:43

Myweather2.com (which has weather prediction for the circuit, not to actual city of Sochi) suggests Saturday as a complete washout but Sunday with just little amount of rain.



#10 krapmeister

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 12:53

Even if Sunday was dry, it looks like standing water is going to be an issue anyway!



#11 Fastcake

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 12:53

Let’s be honest, a totally washed out Grand Prix would still be just as entertaining as a normal race around Sochi.

#12 Vesuvius

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 12:56

It looks like it will be a washout and possibly not much driving. There were very much standing water on the paďdock yesterday.

#13 JimmyClark

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 13:10

If the current forecast for Saturday holds, it will almost certainly be Sunday morning qualifying. Which will mean Red Bull will probably need to make a decision on their engine change before they know their grid position. 



#14 dissident

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 13:12

Can't say I would care much if the race is cancelled. In fact, can we have torrential rain during the Sochi GP weekend every time, please? 



#15 keshav

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 13:16

It will be a washout.

Hope it won't be a fraud like Spa.

#16 Laster

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 13:17

Yeah I’ll take the risk of Sochi being a washout over enduring another one of its horribly dull race weekends. It desperately needs something to make it vaguely interesting.

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 13:17

F3 Race 1 is on at 6:35am UK time (8:35am local) on Saturday :lol: Packed schedule


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#18 Anja

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 13:43

F3 Race 1 is on at 6:35am UK time (8:35am local) on Saturday :lol: Packed schedule

 

Well, it wasn't supposed to be here originally so I imagine they just had to slot it in wherever they could. 


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#19 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 13:44

As of right now, this isn't gonna happen.

 

Hopefully things clear up a bit.



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#20 Goron3

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 13:45

I fully expect the race to not go ahead. Rain is currently forecast from Saturday (early hours) until Sunday noon, with some of Saturday's rain to be extremely heavy. The flooding at Sochi has been pretty bad recently so even if the rain stops, it doesn't mean that we'll go racing.

 

Which makes me wonder...

 

If Red Bull take a PU penalty but the race gets cancelled, do they take the penalty at Turkey?



#21 Ruusperi

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 13:49

Well, it wasn't supposed to be here originally so I imagine they just had to slot it wherever they could. 

And then they have to move F1 qualifying on that slot anyway.  :rotfl:



#22 IrvTheSwerve

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 14:01

Not that it could get much worse in terms of F1 racing in the wet, but if it is another washout with very limited (or no) running, it'll be a massive blow for F1. Spa was seen as a once in a lifetime/generation kind of event...there will be a lot of angry people if there is a repeat so soon after the last one.



#23 IrvTheSwerve

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 14:04

Looking at the weather it looks like 100% chance of rain between 3am and 6pm on the Saturday, and 73-80% of rain between 3am and midnight on the Sunday.

 

*gulp*



#24 Muppetmad

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 14:14

Of course, the rain might be so consistently heavy over Saturday and Sunday that no running is possible - but now is the time to develop a plan for flexibility. F1 needs to be ready to run with ten minutes' notice after 9am local time on Saturday and Sunday, irrespective of whether it upsets broadcasters or not. Broadcasters are better off showing qualifying/the race on delay if necessary than no race at all.



#25 RA2

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 14:34

Can't they just do qualifying on Friday FP2 time slot?

#26 genius83

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 14:51

If no race is possible for Sunday then I want a Monday race, who else is with me?



#27 sportyskells

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 15:09

Why are people panicking over rain this time around? We had no Sochi wet race yet. Plus going by BBC forecast it now light showers therefore inters might be needed

#28 HuddersfieldTerrier1986

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 15:27

Most forecasts give a potential of very heavy rain for Saturday. If most sites were showing light rain then fair enough, but if 1 is showing light rain and (for example) 10 are showing heavy rain, then I'd say the 10 showing heavy rain are more likely to be accurate.

#29 OvDrone

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 15:32

Good to see the Racing Gods give Sochi Autodrom the sendoff it deserves.



#30 TauriJ

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 15:35

Sunday looks not too bad, but saturday looks absolutely awful. 



#31 Risil

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 15:37

Does anyone know what the local forecaster is saying?



#32 TauriJ

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 15:42

Does anyone know what the local forecaster is saying?

https://www.gismeteo...chi-5233/4-day/



#33 Anja

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 15:46

Good to see the Racing Gods give Sochi Autodrom the sendoff it deserves.

 

Not so fast, the last race will be next year...



#34 OvDrone

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 15:52

Not so fast, the last race will be next year...

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#35 sportyskells

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 15:56

Ian has tweeted his forecast. Dry Friday, very iffy Saturday (which is bad news for f2 as that in the danger zone of red flag city) and Sunday very small risk of a shower so all that panicking for nothing

#36 Goron3

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 15:56

Why are people panicking over rain this time around? We had no Sochi wet race yet. Plus going by BBC forecast it now light showers therefore inters might be needed


BBC isn't a good forecaster. Myweather2 and Windy are both predicting around 30mm of water across the whole day. That's about double what we had at Spa.

For reference, on Tuesday there was small amount of rain and the track and paddock were flooded.

#37 HuddersfieldTerrier1986

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 16:14

Ian has tweeted his forecast. Dry Friday, very iffy Saturday (which is bad news for f2 as that in the danger zone of red flag city) and Sunday very small risk of a shower so all that panicking for nothing


All that panicking for nothing? I mean you are aware that he's just 1 forecaster aren't you? It's not a given that he's right. I stand by my earlier comment

#38 Risil

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 16:16

BBC isn't a good forecaster. Myweather2 and Windy are both predicting around 30mm of water across the whole day. That's about double what we had at Spa.

For reference, on Tuesday there was small amount of rain and the track and paddock were flooded.

The BBC uses Meteo France, which iirc is the same one F1 uses?



#39 pitlanepalpatine

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 16:17

So we just have them use heavy heavy wets:

 

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#40 Pete_f1

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 16:48

I've seen pictures from the F2 paddock and its flooded, like a foot of water (30cm) on the floor flooded.

#41 Marklar

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 16:50

The BBC uses Meteo France, which iirc is the same one F1 uses?

which underlines the point that it's unreliable? :D

#42 sportyskells

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 16:52

We got news of a back of grid starter and that is Ferrari Leclerc as he is changing his power unit for the 4 time (I wonder how many times I will be putting that surname up this weekend?)

#43 milestone 11

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 16:59

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What a horribly sad photo that is.

#44 milestone 11

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 17:04

A little damp.  ;)
https://www.gpblog.c...ed-paddock.html

#45 Anderis

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 17:04

Yr.no predicts absolute downpour on Saturday (42mm). If it's true, I can't see them not postponing the Q to Sunday, which is also going to be wet.

 

But I check yr.no for prediction on where I live and it's been wrong almost every single time in the last 2 weeks.  ;)



#46 ToniF1

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 17:11

We need air force to begin cloud seeding against rain like they do for victory parade. Maybe Bernie can call Putin  ;)



#47 BRG

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 17:26

which underlines the point that it's unreliable? :D

As a long-time skier in the French Alps, I always found Meteo France forecasting to be surprisingly accurate, especially given the unpredictability of weather in mountain areas.

 

The UK Meteorological Office though......more interested in preaching the global warming climate change mantras, even though they can't forecast tomorrow's weather worth a damn.



#48 ANF

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 17:47

Does anyone know what the local forecaster is saying?

Probably 99.7% sun...

#49 OvDrone

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 18:07

Probably 99.7% sun...

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#50 JimmyClark

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 18:13

As a long-time skier in the French Alps, I always found Meteo France forecasting to be surprisingly accurate, especially given the unpredictability of weather in mountain areas.

The UK Meteorological Office though......more interested in preaching the global warming climate change mantras, even though they can't forecast tomorrow's weather worth a damn.


Maybe they are great in France, but since the BBC switched to them, the BBC's forecasts have been pretty bad. I still find the met office more reliable.

That said, I always prefer the local weather organisation as they know the climatic nuances. Also note for Sochi it is a very long city, so forecasts for the centre could be quite different from the Autodrom area.