Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

2022 F1 Calendar


  • Please log in to reply
104 replies to this topic

#1 AustinF1

AustinF1
  • Member

  • 16,965 posts
  • Joined: November 10

Posted 15 October 2021 - 16:54

I searched and could not find this anywhere, so here goes.

 

F1 releases 2022 F1 calendar: https://theparcferme...eason-calendar/

 

Austin, Imola, Barcelona, and Singapore listed as "subject to contract".

 

Date Grand Prix Venue
20 March Bahrain Sakhir
27 March Saudi Arabia Jeddah
10 April Australia Melbourne
24 April Emilia Romagna Imola*
8 May Miami Miami**
22 May Spain Barcelona*
29 May Monaco Monaco
12 June Azerbaijan Baku
19 June Canada Montreal
3 July United Kingdom Silverstone
10 July Austria Spielberg
24 July France Le Castellet
31 July Hungary Budapest
28 August Belgium Spa
4 September Netherlands Zandvoort
11 September Italy Monza
25 September Russia Sochi
2 October Singapore Singapore*
9 October Japan Suzuka
23 October USA Austin*
30 October Mexico Mexico City
13 November Brazil Sao Paulo
20 November Abu Dhabi Abu Dhabi
*subject to contract
**subject to FIA circuit homologation

Edited by AustinF1, 15 October 2021 - 16:55.


Advertisement

#2 Anja

Anja
  • Member

  • 7,420 posts
  • Joined: November 09

Posted 15 October 2021 - 17:04

27 March Saudi Arabia Jeddah

10 April Australia Melbourne
24 April Emilia Romagna Imola*
8 May Miami Miami**
22 May Spain Barcelona*
29 May Monaco Monaco
12 June Azerbaijan Baku
19 June Canada Montreal
3 July United Kingdom Silverstone

 

For all the talk about sustainability and streamlining the logistics, this whole stretch is just one big mess. 


Edited by Anja, 15 October 2021 - 17:05.


#3 Risil

Risil
  • Administrator

  • 44,662 posts
  • Joined: February 07

Posted 15 October 2021 - 17:04

May-ami



#4 PayasYouRace

PayasYouRace
  • RC Forum Host

  • 32,299 posts
  • Joined: January 10

Posted 15 October 2021 - 17:07

Thanks Austin.

 

So many races... 23 is far too many. F1 needs to bring in event rotation. I'm getting exhausted just reading the calendar.

 

Hopefully Melbourne will be possible. Nice to see Imola on there, as we were expecting. As always I'm interested in new circuits. Wouldn't mind seeing how Singapore goes if they've cut out the Piquet section.



#5 Risil

Risil
  • Administrator

  • 44,662 posts
  • Joined: February 07

Posted 15 October 2021 - 17:09

I'm really looking forward to a return to Montreal and Suzuka



#6 AustinF1

AustinF1
  • Member

  • 16,965 posts
  • Joined: November 10

Posted 15 October 2021 - 17:16

I'm really looking forward to a return to Montreal and Suzuka

I was just going to post this. It's really good to see both, with Canada in its usual slot. Maybe I'll head up again for the next one.



#7 A.Fant

A.Fant
  • Member

  • 855 posts
  • Joined: April 09

Posted 15 October 2021 - 17:19

Thanks Austin.

 

So many races... 23 is far too many. F1 needs to bring in event rotation. I'm getting exhausted just reading the calendar.

 

Hopefully Melbourne will be possible. Nice to see Imola on there, as we were expecting. As always I'm interested in new circuits. Wouldn't mind seeing how Singapore goes if they've cut out the Piquet section.

I guess it's too late now as they've cut away the section, but they really should've named that corner "Piquet" and claim it was named after the 3x WDC.

 

For all the talk about "black mark" etc. it's probably the most memorable moment in the GPs history and with perspective it is probably a boon to the event on the whole as it is now subconsciously classified as "storied" among many fans. In the end it was just blatant cheating and nobody got (physically) hurt, so it's not akin to naming a corner after an accident that is infamous due to its severity.



#8 Izzyeviel

Izzyeviel
  • Member

  • 1,600 posts
  • Joined: March 16

Posted 15 October 2021 - 17:32

I wonder how often we'll hear this on sky: https://www.youtube....h?v=IwBS6QGsH_4



#9 ConsiderAndGo

ConsiderAndGo
  • Member

  • 6,681 posts
  • Joined: May 09

Posted 15 October 2021 - 17:38

No way Australia is happening.

Can’t see Singapore having a race either based on how draconian they have been, and still are, with no signal of lapse.

#10 AustinF1

AustinF1
  • Member

  • 16,965 posts
  • Joined: November 10

Posted 15 October 2021 - 17:43

Also, Monaco back on US Memorial Day weekend is nice.



#11 Astandahl

Astandahl
  • Member

  • 3,105 posts
  • Joined: June 18

Posted 15 October 2021 - 18:03

Imola makes me so happy. Can't wait to go next year.



#12 Afterburner

Afterburner
  • RC Forum Host

  • 7,745 posts
  • Joined: January 11

Posted 15 October 2021 - 18:12

When I was younger, I would've clamored for there to never be a three-week break during the season apart from the summer break... but damn, that is a long stretch of races next year.



#13 cjm321190

cjm321190
  • Member

  • 512 posts
  • Joined: January 14

Posted 15 October 2021 - 18:37

If they got rid of some practice,( I feel it makes better racing) then we can knock a day off the weekend that helps with the bigger calendar. Instead of 4 week holidays have three 3 weeks breaks. The world tour needs to be in sequence for logistics. Middle East break Europe break East break west world.

#14 Lights

Lights
  • Member

  • 17,801 posts
  • Joined: February 10

Posted 15 October 2021 - 19:12

For all the talk about "black mark" etc. it's probably the most memorable moment in the GPs history

 

Well that's debatable.
singaporecrash-cropped_1rq38g8a1svr1nbrh


Edited by Lights, 15 October 2021 - 19:14.


#15 ARTGP

ARTGP
  • Member

  • 16,234 posts
  • Joined: March 19

Posted 15 October 2021 - 19:14

and have they announced the sprint races? 



#16 Fastcake

Fastcake
  • Member

  • 11,607 posts
  • Joined: April 10

Posted 15 October 2021 - 19:16

Reports of F1 staff seeking non-travelling positions or leaving the sport have been upgraded from steady to a deluge.

This is going to absolutely exhaust everyone. Even me, watching at home with zero travel or stress, has found the relentless pace of triple headers and two double headers separated by a weekend too much at times. It’s hard to keep up, and have the energy and time to watch each week.

#17 ARTGP

ARTGP
  • Member

  • 16,234 posts
  • Joined: March 19

Posted 15 October 2021 - 19:22

Reports of F1 staff seeking non-travelling positions or leaving the sport have been upgraded from steady to a deluge.

This is going to absolutely exhaust everyone. Even me, watching at home with zero travel or stress, has found the relentless pace of triple headers and two double headers separated by a weekend too much at times. It’s hard to keep up, and have the energy and time to watch each week.

 

F1 achieved their goal of oversaturation finally :lol: . I don't even acknowledge free practice anymore. I usually just get on here and wait for you lot to give me the run down on "race pace".  I can't remember the last one I watched. Maybe Bahrain due to pre-season jitter and excitement. But somehow the oversaturation caused me to stop watching entirely. I didn't just skip some rounds. I skipped them all. I also didn't watch Silverstone live for some reason so I missed out on all the high quality posting in the immediate aftermath  :lol:


Edited by ARTGP, 15 October 2021 - 19:44.


#18 Ruusperi

Ruusperi
  • Member

  • 1,038 posts
  • Joined: July 15

Posted 15 October 2021 - 19:32

Too long. Just drop Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Barcelona, Paul Ricard, Russia, Mexico and Abu Dhabi to have a perfect 16 race calendar.



#19 ConsiderAndGo

ConsiderAndGo
  • Member

  • 6,681 posts
  • Joined: May 09

Posted 15 October 2021 - 19:34

Too long. Just drop Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Barcelona, Paul Ricard, Russia, Mexico and Abu Dhabi to have a perfect 16 race calendar.


Way too few!!

20 is just right.

Advertisement

#20 azza200

azza200
  • Member

  • 485 posts
  • Joined: October 15

Posted 15 October 2021 - 19:47

23 races is overkill and over saturation no race is special or unique now. Far to long of season the US Nascar adaption of F1 awful. Is F1 now outside of Nascar the only motorsport series with so many races in a single year i'm pretty sure it is



#21 ARTGP

ARTGP
  • Member

  • 16,234 posts
  • Joined: March 19

Posted 15 October 2021 - 19:54

Keep in mind that it's a 23 race calendar. But atleast 7 or 8 races will be sprint race weekends so potentially between 30 and 31 actual races to view. Complete and utter oversaturation.


Edited by ARTGP, 15 October 2021 - 19:55.


#22 Anja

Anja
  • Member

  • 7,420 posts
  • Joined: November 09

Posted 15 October 2021 - 20:03

There will be six races with a sprint apparently: https://www.racefans...y-f1-commission

 

 

I definitely feel like it's oversaturation as others mentioned, but I would suggest making your peace with it. It's very clear that there's no going back to a smaller calendar, not a chance whatsoever. So we can accept it for what it is and move on, or complain about it forever and only make ourselves more miserable. 


Edited by Anja, 15 October 2021 - 20:17.


#23 Mark1865

Mark1865
  • Member

  • 190 posts
  • Joined: March 16

Posted 15 October 2021 - 20:04

I must be one of the few who doesn’t think this is too many races. I’d say 25 would be ideal, but 23 is a step in the right direction. The 4 month winter break and 1 month summer break between races is more than enough to look forward to the races again.

Quite simply, a weekend with F1 is better than a weekend without it. With the amount of on-demand TV available it’s also much easier to watch (or listen to) the practice/qualifying/race at your own convenience.

#24 Westcoustskt

Westcoustskt
  • New Member

  • 29 posts
  • Joined: August 13

Posted 15 October 2021 - 20:12

To many races.



#25 Tony006

Tony006
  • New Member

  • 25 posts
  • Joined: January 10

Posted 15 October 2021 - 21:01


Date Grand Prix Venue
20 March Bahrain Sakhir
27 March Saudi Arabia Jeddah
10 April Australia Melbourne
24 April Emilia Romagna Imola*
8 May Miami Miami**
22 May Spain Barcelona*
29 May Monaco Monaco
12 June Azerbaijan Baku
19 June Canada Montreal
3 July United Kingdom Silverstone
10 July Austria Spielberg
24 July France Le Castellet
31 July Hungary Budapest

 

For all the talk about sustainability and streamlining the logistics, this whole stretch is just one big mess. 

I agree, keeping the scheduled dates this would make more sense for the first half of the season

 

20 March Bahrain (Sakhir)
27 March Saudi Arabia (Jeddah)
10 April Azerbaijan (Baku)
24 April Australia (Melbourne)
08 May Spain (Barcelona)
22 May France (Le Castellet)
29 May Monaco (Monaco)
12 June USA (Miami)
19 June Canada (Montreal)
03 July United Kingdom (Silverstone)
10 July Emilia Romagna (Imola)
24 July Austria (Spielberg)
31 July Hungary (Budapest)



#26 cbo

cbo
  • Member

  • 65 posts
  • Joined: September 21

Posted 15 October 2021 - 21:03

Watching F1 will be different. I like to watch it all, practice, quali and race and immerse myself in F1 for the weekend. With 23 races, that is not going to happen.

I Wonder if the F1 attraction persist regardless or just whithers away.....

#27 pdac

pdac
  • Member

  • 13,095 posts
  • Joined: February 10

Posted 15 October 2021 - 21:16

I have a feeling that when the 2027 race calendar comes out everyone will be saying it's too many races and 23 would be a good number (like it was in 2022).



#28 PapaD

PapaD
  • Member

  • 51 posts
  • Joined: February 11

Posted 15 October 2021 - 21:17

No way Australia is happening.


Don't see why it won't happen. In a few weeks, eastern Australia is likely to be about the most double vaxxed place on Earth! Borders are open, or will be soon.

The weather will be interesting into April. There could be some very cold and wet days then.

#29 PayasYouRace

PayasYouRace
  • RC Forum Host

  • 32,299 posts
  • Joined: January 10

Posted 15 October 2021 - 21:36

Well that's debatable.

 

I'd completely forgotten about that. But then that's just a run of the mill first corner collision. Nobody is going to forget a once in a lifetime race fixing scandal.



#30 ARTGP

ARTGP
  • Member

  • 16,234 posts
  • Joined: March 19

Posted 15 October 2021 - 21:37

Don't see why it won't happen. In a few weeks, eastern Australia is likely to be about the most double vaxxed place on Earth! Borders are open, or will be soon.

The weather will be interesting into April. There could be some very cold and wet days then.

 

Australia really loses it's luster without being the season opener. It's always been more a "destination", than an actual race.  A damp race would shine it up a bit. 


Edited by ARTGP, 15 October 2021 - 21:37.


#31 azza200

azza200
  • Member

  • 485 posts
  • Joined: October 15

Posted 15 October 2021 - 22:07

Australia  should always be the season opener and Japan or Brazil should be the closer


Edited by azza200, 15 October 2021 - 22:08.


#32 Tony006

Tony006
  • New Member

  • 25 posts
  • Joined: January 10

Posted 15 October 2021 - 22:11

I hope there is a change to the sprint race to the sprint race format.

 

Have it on Friday with the starting grid being based on previous race result, leaving qualy on Saturdays to determine the grid for Sundays race.

 

There could be more points earned for the sprint race but only count for constructors championship.



#33 engineblock1

engineblock1
  • Member

  • 838 posts
  • Joined: November 10

Posted 15 October 2021 - 22:20

All I see is traditional European leg getting outnumbered by other regions.

 

While I do get excited about having more race weekends, I cannot help but imagine the burnout the traveling staff would face as a result. No one should be forced into working environment that accelerates the process of burnout. So no - I would rather like to have less races (18 max) but with more frequent races and 2 long breaks (3 or 4 weeks).

 

Also how is it all so 'green' to travel to North American side suddenly in a transition period from Asia to Europe and then do it again in June. With more aggressive carbon neutrality targets being pursued in Europe, how are F1 teams (based in Europe) going to meet this goal? This doesnt make sense.



#34 r4mses

r4mses
  • Member

  • 1,943 posts
  • Joined: April 09

Posted 15 October 2021 - 23:41

10 April Australia Melbourne

24 April Emilia Romagna Imola*

22 May Spain Barcelona*
29 May Monaco Monaco
19 June Canada Montreal
3 July United Kingdom Silverstone
10 July Austria Spielberg
31 July Hungary Budapest
28 August Belgium Spa
4 September Netherlands Zandvoort
11 September Italy Monza
2 October Singapore Singapore*
9 October Japan Suzuka
23 October USA Austin*
30 October Mexico Mexico City
13 November Brazil Sao Paulo

 

Scrap the races, none wants anyway and we end up with a pretty cool 16 race calendar.


Edited by r4mses, 15 October 2021 - 23:42.


#35 Muzzyf1

Muzzyf1
  • Member

  • 1,134 posts
  • Joined: August 09

Posted 16 October 2021 - 00:04

Disappointed no Turkey.
Rather that track over many on the calendar.

#36 Muzzyf1

Muzzyf1
  • Member

  • 1,134 posts
  • Joined: August 09

Posted 16 October 2021 - 00:28

I don't get why some wanting less races?

I love the fact that I can watch f1 over the course of most of the year.

I think a 22 race calender is perfect and I live in Australia one of the most crap places to live to watch f1 usually 11pm on a Sunday night or 6am when USA races are on.

#37 AlexS

AlexS
  • Member

  • 5,085 posts
  • Joined: September 03

Posted 16 October 2021 - 02:46

Suzuka is back !



#38 P123

P123
  • Member

  • 19,834 posts
  • Joined: February 09

Posted 16 October 2021 - 08:43

I agree with Vettel that the more races, the less special they are.  And it also puts a lot of strain on the personnel within the teams who travel to the races.  With maybe 6 or 7 sprint races added in it becomes a bit of a shoulder shrug.  It goes against the idea of cost cutting, as does the globe hopping travel that will be required with regards F1s environmental targets.  But F1, like any sport, goes where the money is.  They won't turn away anybody willing to expand their income by $40m.



#39 PayasYouRace

PayasYouRace
  • RC Forum Host

  • 32,299 posts
  • Joined: January 10

Posted 16 October 2021 - 08:46

Minor point. I’d like Imola to be the San Marino Grand Prix again.



Advertisement

#40 Sterzo

Sterzo
  • Member

  • 2,611 posts
  • Joined: September 11

Posted 16 October 2021 - 08:55

I don't get why some wanting less races?

Because some like the idea of watching the complete season, every race, but can't commit to a couple of hours on nearly 50% of Sundays.

 

Also the intangible factor of devaluing a "big event" by turning it into a matter of routine, and for many of us, making it difficult to remember what happened in a supposedly memorable event.



#41 noikeee

noikeee
  • Member

  • 20,709 posts
  • Joined: February 06

Posted 16 October 2021 - 09:33

For all the talk about sustainability and streamlining the logistics, this whole stretch is just one big mess.


Someone wants to collect the highest possible number of air miles.

#42 azza200

azza200
  • Member

  • 485 posts
  • Joined: October 15

Posted 16 October 2021 - 09:37

i know its a world championship but when it was 16-17 races when i was growing up it still felt each country and race was unique that weekend. Now its lets go everywhere around the world who pays us the most money to host a race. The championship's back then also 2 weeks between races was good and was spread out with thought put into the calender. 

 

That calender has been a mess for years with the European races the heartland of F1 getting gradually smaller and smaller in favour of tracks with no heritage or run on massive car parks as half the tracks in the 2022 calendar are *s""t 


Edited by azza200, 16 October 2021 - 12:07.


#43 PhilArny80

PhilArny80
  • Member

  • 65 posts
  • Joined: August 20

Posted 16 October 2021 - 10:01

18 should be the maximum. We have so many circuits now though so I would use a rotation policy to see different circuits each year.

I would have 8 circuits used every year

Melbourne
Monaco
Montreal
Silverstone
Spa
Monza
Suzuka
Interlagos

The other 10 rounds rotated between 2 or 3 tracks each year.

Bahrain/Qatar
Abu Dhabi/Saudi
Portimao/Barcelona
Imola/Turkey
Paul Ricard/Zandvoort
Sochi/Baku
Miami/Austin/Indy
Mexico/Singapore/China
Austria/Hungary
Nurburgring/Hockenheim


**I know it probably isn't possible financially.

Edited by PhilArny80, 16 October 2021 - 10:03.


#44 Burtros

Burtros
  • Member

  • 2,177 posts
  • Joined: July 11

Posted 16 October 2021 - 11:35

Rich oil states paying over the top for their shithole tracks to open and end the season.

23 races in what, 36 weeks. It’s far to many in a short space of time.

It’s crap calendar.

#45 DinocoBlue

DinocoBlue
  • Member

  • 880 posts
  • Joined: November 10

Posted 16 October 2021 - 11:37

I don't get why some wanting less races?
 

I think its a case of quantity over qaulity. Some would argue that some of the newer circuits (and some of the old ones) don't offer anything that would add to the season.

 

 

Minor point. I’d like Imola to be the San Marino Grand Prix again.

Whilst that'd be great, I think the region of Emilia-Romagna would probably be quite happy at their name being seen more often.

 

Give it a few years, and Gran Premio dell'Emilia-Romagna might seem as 'traditional' as the San Marino GP.

 

:)

 

 

So many races... 23 is far too many. F1 needs to bring in event rotation. I'm getting exhausted just reading the calendar.

I'm starting to agree.If only to help balance out the traditional circuits versus the new. I'm just curious as to how that can be done fairly. Should they restrict events by country or region? Should two events in the same country just be the defacto requirement for rotating events? (ie. COTA and Miami).

 

I know that the addition of more Middle-East races has been criticised elsewhere, but its only 4 events versus 10 in Europe. (And that's without classing Sochi or Baku as Europe). Of course the argument there is that Europe is a larger landmass and a higher total population. By that argument  should the US have two? It is a huge landmass after all, but then again so is Australia - just a complete difference in population.

 

Therefore, should the Middle-East just have three events, with the fourth being rotated? (ie. Losail and Sakir alternating perhaps).Europe then has to have three rotating locations?

 

I'm just guessing here, and I'd like to hear how it can be achieved.


Edited by DinocoBlue, 16 October 2021 - 11:40.


#46 jwill189

jwill189
  • Member

  • 1,986 posts
  • Joined: July 16

Posted 16 October 2021 - 12:00

Rich oil states paying over the top for their shithole tracks to open and end the season.

23 races in what, 36 weeks. It’s far to many in a short space of time.

It’s crap calendar.

 

And notice how many races in a row require continent hopping? Logistically expensive and so environmentally unfriendly. I don't think it's talked about how much energy it requires to fly all of these cars and heavy equipment many thousands of miles.



#47 pdac

pdac
  • Member

  • 13,095 posts
  • Joined: February 10

Posted 16 October 2021 - 12:00

All I see is traditional European leg getting outnumbered by other regions.

 

While I do get excited about having more race weekends, I cannot help but imagine the burnout the traveling staff would face as a result. No one should be forced into working environment that accelerates the process of burnout. So no - I would rather like to have less races (18 max) but with more frequent races and 2 long breaks (3 or 4 weeks).

 

Also how is it all so 'green' to travel to North American side suddenly in a transition period from Asia to Europe and then do it again in June. With more aggressive carbon neutrality targets being pursued in Europe, how are F1 teams (based in Europe) going to meet this goal? This doesnt make sense.

 

Good grief. These teams are not slave owners. No one can or will be forced to do anything they have not agreed to. Such rhetoric.


Edited by pdac, 16 October 2021 - 12:01.


#48 lewislorenzo

lewislorenzo
  • Member

  • 627 posts
  • Joined: March 14

Posted 16 October 2021 - 12:10

Way too many races. Feel for the team personnel

#49 GlenWatkins

GlenWatkins
  • Member

  • 1,148 posts
  • Joined: March 20

Posted 16 October 2021 - 12:19

I do not think that 23 races is too many, however the season should be longer to allow more time between races.  I also think that double header weekends would help to limit the amount of travel required.

 

With regard to time spent watching, I have a DVR that allowed me to watch at my leisure with the benefit of being able to apply liberal usage of the fast forward button on my remote.  Now, when pressed for time I will watch F1TV  FP & qually highlight videos and some races I tune into the "race in 30" extended highlights.



#50 ARTGP

ARTGP
  • Member

  • 16,234 posts
  • Joined: March 19

Posted 16 October 2021 - 12:33

Good grief. These teams are not slave owners. No one can or will be forced to do anything they have not agreed to. Such rhetoric.

 

I think this is an unfair take. Many in the F1 circle have spent years and years building up their careers, gotten into a good position, can support their families, and have invested an immense amount of blood, sweat, and tears into the success of each of their respective F1 teams and make F1 what it is today.  Yes, they have free will to quit, but it is completely unfair to ostracize those who have made a long term investment in the sport (by way of their career), by forcing them to now choose to just "quit" (Franz Tost....just wow...you must be great to work for....).  Quit and do what?  Forcing people to quit after they've given years and years of their lives and careers to your team  instead of protecting and defending those team members when they say the racing is too much is a massive lack of loyalty. 

 

While they are not permanently entitled to these jobs, and are replaceable, you would like to imagine things are a bit more close knit than that.

 

I don't know if 23 is the number that will burst the bubble. Maybe it's 25, maybe it's 27 but F1 is definitely heading in the bubble bursting direction with no signs of stopping. They have realized they can print money by adding races. It's a very tempting thing to keep printing more and more until the wheels fall off...but who wants to be collateral damage when the wheels fall off?


Edited by ARTGP, 16 October 2021 - 12:42.