85 replies to this topic

[JRodrigues]

Well... Moto GP's Portuguese GP in 87 and 88 were held in Jerez and Jaram as well, so... 

[cbo]

In a few years time, the Italian Grand Prix will be the Barilla Farfalle Grand Prix, Spa will be the AB InBev Grand Prix and so forth. Perhaps there will even be a Rich Energy Grand Prix....

[jjcale]

Mexico City is the title sponsor

 

Not saying youre wrong ... but I couldn't find that anywhere...

[Ivanhoe]

Not saying youre wrong ... but I couldn't find that anywhere...

From this piece it appears that the city was involved as a contract partner. It also looks like a kind of sponsorship deal reading the last paragraph of the article.

 

 From 2020 the official event title will change to Mexico City Grand Prix to emphasise the support given by the Government of Mexico City.

Mexico City is one of the most buzzing and vibrant cities in the world, and the renewal of the contract for a further three years represents a new opportunity to continue to position itself as a world class tourist destination, whilst continuing to support the development of the local economy. With the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez located just to the east of the city, with a metro station ready to whip you downtown at the end of each day’s racing action, the Mexican Grand Prix is a fantastic chance to mix

[jjcale]

From this piece it appears that the city was involved as a contract partner. It also looks like a kind of sponsorship deal reading the last paragraph of the article.

 

Thanks.

 

This doesnt really change my point .... they could still call it the [Telcel] Mexico City GP ...

 

Its like a car with a blank rear wing .... that is good advertising space ... why arnt they selling it?

[Risil]

Mexico City is the title sponsor

 

"The Mexico City Grand Prix of Mexico"

[jjcale]

"The Mexico City Grand Prix of Mexico"

 

The [Telcel] Mexico City Grand Prix of Mexico 

 

... has a ring to it.

[Risil]

Well... Moto GP's Portuguese GP in 87 and 88 were held in Jerez and Jaram as well, so... 

 

For some reason that nobody ever explains to me, the Italian GP was known as the Nations Grand Prix (as in the United Nations) until 1990 as well.

 

In the 80s and 90s you also had the Expo 92 Grand Prix (Jerez 1988), the Baden-Wurttemberg Grand Prix (Hockenheim 1986), the FIM Grand Prix (Jarama 1993), the City of Imola Grand Prix (Imola 1996-1999) and the Vitesse du Mans Grand Prix (Le Mans 1991).

[Anderis]

As an aside... why is this race called the Miexico City Grand Prix?

In Polish, both Mexico and Mexico City are just called "Meksyk".

 

So for our commentators, this will make little difference. In Polish it will be "Grand Prix Meksyku" anyway.

[PayasYouRace]

The [Telcel] Mexico City Grand Prix of Mexico

... has a ring to it.

Are you sponsored by Telcel, jj?

[Afterburner]

If it makes you feel any better I wondered for years who Hermanos Rodriguez was, and why he was more deserving of a circuit being named in his honour than say, Pedro or Ricardo.

[jjcale]

Are you sponsored by Telcel, jj?

 

I cant remember the name of any other Mexican company, off hand 

 

edit - Every now and then we have a new member who is clearly a publicist working for someone .... but you guys never seem to mind   

Edited by jjcale, 05 November 2021 - 18:03.

[ensign14]

"The Mexico City Grand Prix of Mexico"

For the podium ceremony, they should play Grieg's Piano Concerto by Grieg.

[SophieB]

Or Living in a box by Living in a box, from the album Living in a box.

[MKSixer]

Will be interesting once we have 3 or more races in the US.

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[MKSixer]

In a few years time, the Italian Grand Prix will be the Barilla Farfalle Grand Prix, Spa will be the AB InBev Grand Prix and so forth. Perhaps there will even be a Rich Energy Grand Prix....

Perish the thought!!

 

   

[AustinF1]

Will be interesting once we have 3 or more races in the US.

 

USGP West

USGP Central

USGP East

Miami 2022 tickets have popped up on Stubhub with the title "Formula 1 United States Grand Prix" ... which is interesting.

[AustinF1]

I think it's up to the race organizer to decide how they promote it.
They pay the fee for the slot, then they try to make money.

My assumption is Mexico City budget is a sponsor

This is pretty much it. Remember when the race was almost lost 2 or 3 years ago? The city stepped in and found a way to get the money together through various sources. The race is funded differently now than it was before, thus the name change.

[PayasYouRace]

Perish the thought!!

As if he’d be able to put together that much sponsorship money.

[Vitesse2]

But right back at the dawn of motor racing, there was only ever the Grand Prix.  When the Americans started their version, they called it the Grand Prize.  Other countries translate the term (Gran Premio &c) but it seems to be down to the narrow-minded swivel-eyed xenophobic Brits who honour the nation that invented the sport.

Each of the four classes of the 1901 Circuit du Sud-Ouest was called a Grand Prix.

[ensign14]

Yeah, but it wasn't a Grand Prix.

[azza200]

soon we will have the "DHL, AWS HAVE A BUDWISER ON US, FEEL LIFE WITH A BUD. The Austin GP "Feel like a cowboy in Texas" 

[azza200]

For the podium ceremony, they should play Grieg's Piano Concerto by Grieg.

 

Nah get these guys 

[r4mses]

It's a bit different when there's already a Grand Prix for that country though, as they have to call it something unique.

 

FWIW calling last year's Nurburgring race the "Eifel Grand Prix" when there was no other German GP, felt a bit wrong, as well.

 

That's because "Großer Preis von Deutschland" is owned by the guys who own Hockenheim, AvD Automobilclub von Deutschland.

 

 

 

(FORMULA 1 GROSSER PREIS VON DEUTSCHLAND though is owned by FORMULA ONE LICENSING B.V., 3011AA, Rotterdam, NL)

Edited by r4mses, 06 November 2021 - 00:45.

[Afterburner]

soon we will have the "DHL, AWS HAVE A BUDWISER ON US, FEEL LIFE WITH A BUD. The Austin GP "Feel like a cowboy in Texas"

Oh, we did that already–were you not around for Bridgestone Presents the ChampCar World Series Powered by Ford?

[Rodaknee]

A gander at the 'official' F1 calendar on F1.com and I see every race is listed by the country where the race is taking place, followed by whatever the promoter is paid to call it.

So it's not an issue at all.

 

https://www.formula1...acing/2021.html

[jjcale]

Except for the commies in Monaco, Azerbaijan and Mexico ...

 

Monaco doesnt have a race fee and they make money as a "country" off hosting, so no pressure to sell the name.... Azerbaijan has money to burn ..... but what's Mexico's excuse?

[AustinF1]

Except for the commies in Monaco, Azerbaijan and Mexico ...

 

Monaco doesnt have a race fee and they make money as a "country" off hosting, so no pressure to sell the name.... Azerbaijan has money to burn ..... but what's Mexico's excuse?

It's what I was alluding to earlier. My understanding is that the city government brought the money together - not that they are actually footing the bill...

[azza200]

Oh, we did that already–were you not around for Bridgestone Presents the ChampCar World Series Powered by Ford?

 

I missed that lol 

[scheivlak]

I cant remember the name of any other Mexican company, off hand 

 

 

Corona Mexican Grand Prix?

[azza200]

Corona Mexican Grand Prix?

 

sponsored by the fast and furious franchise & vin diesel who also put on a concert after the GP

[Spillage]

I wonder if naming these Gaps after Mexico City and Sao Paolo is part of a general move to associate Grands Prx with the cities rather than countries. It began with Abu Dhabi, which was never the Emirati GP. Or maybe you just have to pay extra to associate the country's name with the race.

Who knows. This is effectively the Mexican GP either way.

[Gareth]

Abu Dahbi is the Emirate, as well as the city, though.

So you could see it as similar to if Silverstone were called the English Grand Prix, I guess.

[BRG]

Perhaps there will even be a Rich Energy Grand Prix....

And even then, there won't be any Rich Energy cans actually on sale to the public.

 

soon we will have the "DHL, AWS HAVE A BUDWISER ON US, FEEL LIFE WITH A BUD. The Austin GP "Feel like a cowboy in Texas" 

WIth COTA on its uppers and probably off the calendar, we wlll at least be spared that

 

Abu Dahbi is the Emirate, as well as the city, though.

So you could see it as similar to if Silverstone were called the English Grand Prix, I guess.

Abu Dhabi is just one of the United Arab Emirates.  There are seven in all - Abu Dhabi, Dubai and five others too insignificant to worry about.  So the nomenclature is perhaps optional - either UAE GP or Abu Dhabi GP.

 

Either way, this is all something of a storm in a teacup.  As long as there some sort of geographical allusion in the title, does it matter?  It is only when we get the Aramco GP, the Red Bull GP, the Rolex GP etc that we should worry

[noikeee]

Either way, this is all something of a storm in a teacup. As long as there some sort of geographical allusion in the title, does it matter? It is only when we get the Aramco GP, the Red Bull GP, the Rolex GP etc that we should worry

Well this already happened last year, even if I don't know where can I buy stuff from the "70th Anniversary" brand.

[BRG]

Well this already happened last year, even if I don't know where can I buy stuff from the "70th Anniversary" brand.

Here you go.  Don't say I never do anything for you!