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#401 cokata

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Posted 09 January 2022 - 16:09

As for Max and Lewis, Max was better the first half of the season, but had to drive " desperately"  the last 3 races as Mercedes just became unbeatable pretty much. The only mistake big mistake he had that can be put 100% on him was his shunt during Q in Saudi, but as i said before he and red bull were getting pretty desperate, as it seemed the WDC was slipping away.

 

And without the shenanigans from Masi, Lewis would have won the WDC is a fairly comfortably, yet still Max did have a better season, no doubt.



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#402 Sid04

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Posted 09 January 2022 - 16:52

Looks like saying Max choked in the last 2 races gives some sort of satisfaction to people.

 

Race - 2,2,2,1

Qualifying - 2,2,3,1

 

If a driver performs like this when he is cracking under pressure then I will take it. You can call his antics to be desperate specially in Jeddah but, not cracking under pressure. It was clear that he knew his car was not enough fast enough and tried some desperate measures to win and I do not agree with some of his moves in Jeddah but, he did not look like driver who is cracking.

 

People like to bring up Jeddah qualifying, imo it was still better than Sochi by Lewis..that was a sloppy mistake..Jeddah was at least more on limit.

 

Hamilton on balance was probably better in the last 4 races and I will not disagree with it all things considered(he also, had better car imo) but, saying Max cracked probably just makes people sleep better I guess.



#403 SpatialTech

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Posted 09 January 2022 - 17:25

Sid04, on 09 Jan 2022 - 16:52, said:

Looks like saying Max choked in the last 2 races gives some sort of satisfaction to people.
 
Race - 2,2,2,1
Qualifying - 2,2,3,1
 
If a driver performs like this when he is cracking under pressure then I will take it. You can call his antics to be desperate specially in Jeddah but, not cracking under pressure. It was clear that he knew his car was not enough fast enough and tried some desperate measures to win and I do not agree with some of his moves in Jeddah but, he did not look like driver who is cracking.
 
People like to bring up Jeddah qualifying, imo it was still better than Sochi by Lewis..that was a sloppy mistake..Jeddah was at least more on limit.
 
Hamilton on balance was probably better in the last 4 races and I will not disagree with it all things considered(he also, had better car imo) but, saying Max cracked probably just makes people sleep better I guess.


He wasn’t 2231 in qualifying, at Qatar he was 7th…

#404 Sid04

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Posted 09 January 2022 - 17:55

SpatialTech, on 09 Jan 2022 - 17:25, said:

He wasn’t 2231 in qualifying, at Qatar he was 7th…


My bad..yes he qualified 7th in Qatar.

#405 PlatenGlass

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Posted 09 January 2022 - 18:37

If the brake test wasn't a deliberate thing, then it could be seen as cracking under pressure. Certainly if the consequences had been greater, it couldn't be so easily glossed over.

#406 PlayboyRacer

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Posted 09 January 2022 - 19:06

Wolbo, on 09 Jan 2022 - 14:26, said:

First time Lewis had a shot at the WC he cracked, first time Max had the chance he didn't.

You're brilliant at comparing apples with oranges.

Had Max been punished the way he should have been in Saudi - after a horrible weekend of literally cracking under pressure - this wouldn't even be a discussion. He can count himself lucky he didn't blow the World Championship that weekend.

#407 statman

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Posted 10 January 2022 - 09:46

PlatenGlass, on 09 Jan 2022 - 18:37, said:

If the brake test wasn't a deliberate thing, then it could be seen as cracking under pressure. Certainly if the consequences had been greater, it couldn't be so easily glossed over.

 

What makes you think it wasn't deliberate? Some nice old-school shenanigans to put your opponent on the edge   ;)  :up:

 

Liberty have struck gold.

 

Formula One's popularity is growing


Edited by statman, 10 January 2022 - 09:49.


#408 P123

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Posted 10 January 2022 - 10:07

Collombin, on 09 Jan 2022 - 14:49, said:

You literally twist every single thing to highlight Lewis in the worst possible light, purely because of who he is. Any particular reason?

Possibly because he's not Dutch.



#409 PlatenGlass

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Posted 10 January 2022 - 11:14

statman, on 10 Jan 2022 - 09:46, said:

What makes you think it wasn't deliberate? Some nice old-school shenanigans to put your opponent on the edge  ;) :up:

Liberty have struck gold.

Formula One's popularity is growing

I don't know whether it was or not. If it was deliberate, it was a really bad decision in the pressure situation anyway, so the same applies.

#410 SpatialTech

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Posted 10 January 2022 - 15:36

Wolbo, on 09 Jan 2022 - 14:26, said:

First time Lewis had a shot at the WC he cracked, first time Max had the chance he didn't.


Oh dear. One did it as a rookie, the other as a seasoned 7th championship, 130 ish race pro.

I love this take on it though, it’s great work.

#411 QdfV

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Posted 10 January 2022 - 17:22

Well it was Lewis who first made the comparison.

#412 aportinga

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Posted 10 January 2022 - 17:34

Mansell is always #1.

 

:p



#413 AustinF1

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Posted 11 January 2022 - 02:53

Ross Stonefeld, on 17 Dec 2021 - 19:04, said:

Karun's really made an entire career out of being a ride buyer for one season.

Seriously, this ... and he just drones nonsense, on and on and on.