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#1 pacificquay

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 14:11

Confirmed: HAAS will launch tomorrow



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#2 mmmcurry

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 14:25

Confirmed: HAAS will launch tomorrow

 

Autosport have it as livery, not sure about the actual car.

 

Steve.



#3 pacificquay

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 14:33

The team say it is the '22 car reveal



#4 Alburaq

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 14:56

I do think it is the case. The car will all look a alike the FIA FOM model. How bring, pity for the millions.



#5 Ali623

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 15:07

The team say it is the '22 car reveal

 

They specified livery reveal on Twitter, it'll just be a generic render with the new livery.



#6 ANF

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 15:08

Rumours going round that Haas will do a surprise launch tomorrow...

A surprise? Will it be painted like the flag of Ukraine this time?

#7 TomNokoe

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 15:09

Would be very funny if it's the same livery as last year on a showcar

#8 RainyAfterlifeDaylight

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 16:21

Gene Haas for presidency!

#9 JimmyClark

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 16:25

A surprise? Will it be painted like the flag of Ukraine this time?

 

They could do their testing in the Russian military camouflage... 



#10 MKSixer

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 20:18

They could do their testing in the Russian military camouflage... 

...in the Ukraine!!



#11 Anja

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 20:24

Would be very funny if it's the same livery as last year on a showcar

 

I'm not expecting much more to be honest. 


Edited by Anja, 03 February 2022 - 20:25.


#12 Ali_G

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 20:37

No confirmation yet if it’s the car or livery. I suspect livery sadly.

#13 PayasYouRace

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 20:40

Well we know the livery will be something along the lines of HAAS in big letters and Russian flags draped all over it. But still, they might surprise.



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Posted 03 February 2022 - 20:50

Would be very funny if it's the same livery as last year on a showcar

 

Would be even funnier if they just show the previous year's car (again)  :lol: .  I remember Alpine did this not too long ago.


Edited by ARTGP, 03 February 2022 - 20:54.


#15 pacificquay

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 21:01

The tweet clearly says it is the VF22 car reveal.



#16 PayasYouRace

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 21:17

The tweet clearly says "livery reveal" yet the image says VF-22 reveal.

 

https://twitter.com/...237292518715400



#17 Ali_G

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 21:51

The tweet clearly says it is the VF22 car reveal.


The tweet is extremely ambiguous.

#18 Alburaq

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Posted 03 February 2022 - 22:04

Would be even funnier if they just show the previous year's car (again)  :lol: .  I remember Alpine did this not too long ago.

 

The Enstone team and other teams sometimes use an old car for the physical launch, and publish a 3d render of the new car at the same time.

 

This year, the FOM has 'mass' produced a physical showcar that has been mass purchased by teams, sponsors, circuits...

 

So teams might definitely use that FOM showcar for their launch, instead of a 1 or 3 years old car...

 

I hope they'll atleast show a render of their actual car, not the 3d render the FOM also provided... 
 

Since 2018 atleast, HAAS always published a 3d render of their new car. 


Edited by Alburaq, 03 February 2022 - 22:13.


#19 aray

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 04:19

I hope we see the HAAS car with this year livery. Not some generic computer generate image.



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#20 Beri

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 09:06

Well we know the livery will be something along the lines of HAAS in big letters and Russian flags draped all over it. But still, they might surprise.


Gene Haas has once said he liked the Jordan and Minardi yellow liveries. Would be something if yellow returns on the grid.

#21 JimmyClark

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 09:09

Gene Haas has once said he liked the Jordan and Minardi yellow liveries. Would be something if yellow returns on the grid.

Yes I remember when he entered into F1 he said he wanted a bright, unique livery and did certainly mention yellow.

Then when he launched it was grey, white and red...

Edit: I found the quote.

“We would love to have a car in line with the company’s image. But it needs to be good, too, because all these cars in silver or grey appear almost identical to each other. I would like a colour that makes us distinguishable. I do like yellow.”

Edited by JimmyClark, 04 February 2022 - 09:10.


#22 TheFish

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 09:10

Yes I remember when he entered into F1 he said he wanted a bright, unique livery and did certainly mention yellow.

Then when he launched it was grey, white and red...

Edit: I found the quote.

“We would love to have a car in line with the company’s image. But it needs to be good, too, because all these cars in silver or grey appear almost identical to each other. I would like a colour that makes us distinguishable. I do like yellow.”

I swear they searched for the dullest shade of grey possible too.



#23 JimmyClark

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 09:25

I swear they searched for the dullest shade of grey possible too.


Indeed. Out of the 50 shades they could have used, theirs seems to suck out any visual soul. I was not a fan of the 2017 car.

#24 aray

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:05

https://twitter.com/...5733505/photo/1

 

It's a proper car( even if the base design).


Edited by aray, 04 February 2022 - 11:07.


#25 Spillage

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:06

Looks fast!



#26 jpm2019

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:07

it's very.... basic



#27 Ali623

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:07

 

Very thick sidepods



#28 Clrnc

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:07

Other than sidepods look Abit too similar to the default car. Last

#29 midgrid

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:08

Haas has become the first team to unveil its 2022 car.  Digital renders only, but an interesting first impression of what effects the rule changes have had.  Can this be the car that restores the team to the midfield, and will it be representative of the other teams' designs?

 

 

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#30 aray

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:08

Very thick sidepods

Yeah! But different from previous gen cars at least...



#31 ARTGP

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:08

https://twitter.com/...5733505/photo/1

It's a proper car( even if the base design).

Debatable. Where is the DRS mechanism?

Edited by ARTGP, 04 February 2022 - 11:09.


#32 Anja

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:09

Looks fast!

 

Looks fat...



#33 TheAviator

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:11

Push rod front suspension and they get 70% of parts from Ferrari hmmm

From our dear Gary A

"If you look at where the pushrod meets the chassis, it doesn’t seem to enter the chassis, it seems to be just leaning against it. So it’s possible Haas might not want to give away the real Ferrari design in this area until Ferrari releases it."

Edited by TheAviator, 04 February 2022 - 11:13.


#34 Clrnc

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:11

Boring livery by the way

#35 Requiem84

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:12

Side pods are HUGE and the openings are SMALL.

 

What's the design thinking behind this?



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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:12

seems like it has a double floor concept to energise the venturis / separate the inlets from the venturis as much as possible?  The sidepods are really high and forward. 


I think we're going to see something horrendously wacky like the Ferrari F310
 


Edited by mtknot, 04 February 2022 - 11:13.


#37 krapmeister

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:13

Am I right in thinking they (Ferrari) have gone the supposed more aggressive route with the ground effect philosophy - looks nothing like the F1 show car sidepods

Edited by krapmeister, 04 February 2022 - 11:15.


#38 jjcale

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:13

So no change in the paint job then .... it was cool last year - sticking up a couple of fingers to the Russiaphobes .... but it could do with some freshening up. 



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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:14

So no change in the paint job then .... it was cool last year - sticking up a couple of fingers to the Russiaphobes .... but it could do with some freshening up.


Maybe they could ad a Ukranian flag to it somewhere...

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#40 Dolph

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:15

So that's pretty much a copy of the FIA car? I can see small differences, sure, but surely this isn't actually THE car



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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:15

The nose is square and not round like the showcar... they have just hid it by painting it black.

Sidepods are really weird and nothing like the showcar, I wonder if all of them will be really wide with tiny inlets

Edited by SilverArrow31, 04 February 2022 - 11:21.


#42 rootten

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:15

it's soo ugly...



#43 jjcale

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:15

I dont understand any technical concept ... so no comment on that side of things except to say that I doubt this is how the car will look when it is launched in real life. 



#44 Spillage

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:16

I actually quite like the look of it. Looks sleek. Still got the A1GP livery but I don't really mind that either. Hoping it's faster than last years - if they're propping up the grid again I fear Gene Haas will pull the plug.

Edited by Spillage, 04 February 2022 - 11:16.


#45 aray

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:16

Well Scrabs says it's not a working model.



#46 r4mses

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:16

Side pods are HUGE and the openings are SMALL.

 

What's the design thinking behind this?

 

Ye, if that thing hits the track like this, I'd like to know  :drunk:



#47 mtknot

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:16

That closed off front wing as well seems to be like its meant to cause a vortex with the front wing to energise the venturi hm 

So essentially dirty air will still be an issue lol 



#48 Astandahl

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:16

As predicted these reveals are almost useless. The only relevant changes compared to the show car are the inlets and the air box.

 

Also the rules are much more strict in terms of aero.



#49 Anja

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:17

So that's pretty much a copy of the FIA car? I can see small differences, sure, but surely this isn't actually THE car

 

The sidepods and the nose are completely different. I don't know what level of differences you'd expect, obviously the general shape is going to be similar. 



#50 P0inters

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 11:17

Those sidepods look bizzare.