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#1 Forghieri

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Posted 15 March 2022 - 07:13

Gene Haas likely to increase F1 team investment

 

https://racer.com/20...eam-investment/



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#2 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 15 March 2022 - 08:17

Gene Haas likely to increase F1 team investment

 

https://racer.com/20...eam-investment/

 

Good for him, good for the team.



#3 Forghieri

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Posted 16 March 2022 - 08:03

Mick Schumacher says Magnussen will be a good benchmark for him in 2022

 

https://www.formula1...hw3N0xhMOM.html



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Posted 16 March 2022 - 08:10

some trackside action

 


Edited by thegamer23, 16 March 2022 - 08:17.


#5 thegamer23

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Posted 16 March 2022 - 08:24

Mick Schumacher says Magnussen will be a good benchmark for him in 2022

 

https://www.formula1...hw3N0xhMOM.html

Definetely!

On his day, KMag can be very quick.
Also, very aggressive: i expect the duel to get physical some point during the season.

Interesting season ahead for Mick: having a good team-mate can only push making you better i think.



#6 Sam1

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Posted 16 March 2022 - 22:33

I would not put it past Mazepin to try and get hass assets seized either here in Bahrain  or some other non eu country 

 
 
 


#7 Alfisti

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Posted 17 March 2022 - 00:53

This is the best thing that could have happened to Schumacher. If the car can at least race with say two other teams, and he has a legit team mate, its a perfect scenario for him to show what he has got after a year to settle in. Another year like last yr would have been a total waste.

#8 Forghieri

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Posted 17 March 2022 - 08:19

Steiner: "good interest" from F1 sponsors to replace Uralkali

 

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#9 thegamer23

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Posted 18 March 2022 - 10:20

Pole Position confirmed!

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#10 Szoelloe

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Posted 18 March 2022 - 10:29

 

I would not put it past Mazepin to try and get hass assets seized either here in Bahrain  or some other non eu country 

 
 
 

 

 

He can't do that.



#11 taran

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Posted 18 March 2022 - 11:13

He can't do that.

Why can't he do that? Is there some legal reason? Usually, seizing collateral for non-payment is pretty standard if done properly and legally and it seems Mazepin has a case.



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Posted 18 March 2022 - 11:20

Why can't he do that? Is there some legal reason? Usually, seizing collateral for non-payment is pretty standard if done properly and legally and it seems Mazepin has a case.

 

I would imagine something to do with being sanctioned...



#13 taran

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Posted 18 March 2022 - 11:28

I would imagine something to do with being sanctioned...

Mazepin jr. was sacked before being sanctioned. So that wasn't the reason. Mazepin apparently paid up front so it's pretty logical to get the money back.

 

And sanctions are not universal. Some countries have sanctioned Russia, others have not. It's not a free pass to keep money.

 

Great Britain tried that when it refused to hand over tanks to Iran after the 1979 revolution and also kept the entire payment. They lost in every international court using the sanctions defence against Iran.



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Posted 18 March 2022 - 12:58

Pole Position confirmed!

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Cute - although nuts how a guy called Jan can end up with having a son called Kevin and a Grandaughter called Laura

Took his inspiration from a 1980’s council estate perhaps? :lol:

#15 loki

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Posted 18 March 2022 - 15:43

Why can't he do that? Is there some legal reason? Usually, seizing collateral for non-payment is pretty standard if done properly and legally and it seems Mazepin has a case.

The reason is he hasn’t gone to court to try and get a judgement.  There is an entire process.  You can’t turn up and ask for asset forfeiture.   I’d guarantee that Bahrain isn’t the venue of jurisdiction.  It’s likely the UK or perhaps the US.  There won’t be an asset forfeiture.  Gene will pay them if it comes to that.   Nothing will happen.



#16 Man of the race

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Posted 18 March 2022 - 15:59

Pole Position confirmed!

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I don't say that it is the case here, but some drivers do pee in the cockpit.



#17 William Hunt

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Posted 18 March 2022 - 16:08

I have a feeling that Haas really has a good car this year, fingers crossed. And finally they have a good line-up again with Mazepin out.



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Posted 18 March 2022 - 17:03

I have a feeling that Haas really has a good car this year, fingers crossed. And finally they have a good line-up again with Mazepin out.

 

Yep I am buzzing, it's looking exciting. Fingers crosses we see regular points finishes. 



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Posted 19 March 2022 - 20:43

If Mazepin was still there (and knocked out in Q1), probably there would be shout out: "What a performance by Schumacher, bringing that car into Q2 and even beating Norris in a McLaren. 

Now, not so much since he was outpaced by Magnussen.



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#20 Beamer

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Posted 19 March 2022 - 20:50

I have a feeling that Haas really has a good car this year, fingers crossed. And finally they have a good line-up again with Mazepin out.



They are in fact the only ones that are faster in 2022... (mick compared to 2021 mick, let alone mags time)

#21 William Hunt

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Posted 19 March 2022 - 20:59

If Mazepin was still there (and knocked out in Q1), probably there would be shout out: "What a performance by Schumacher, bringing that car into Q2 and even beating Norris in a McLaren. 

Now, not so much since he was outpaced by Magnussen.

 

Both drivers did well, Mick deserves credit too for today.



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Posted 19 March 2022 - 21:09

Mazepins and Urakali deserve some credit as well.

Cheers for the money boyz! Hope you enjoyed quali in Moscow… (that’s if it’s still broadcast there!

Only thing that would have made it sweeter would be if Mag ran Ukraine colours on his helmet.

#23 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 19 March 2022 - 21:15

I think Mazepin would have been through Q1, car is plenty good for that as can be seen.



#24 William Hunt

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Posted 19 March 2022 - 21:22

....
Only thing that would have made it sweeter would be if Mag ran Ukraine colours on his helmet.

 

It would have been cooler if Haas ran in full Ukraine flag colours livery.



#25 Arn

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Posted 19 March 2022 - 22:00

I think Mazepin would have been through Q1, car is plenty good for that as can be seen.


Don't think he would. Mick did a 1.32.380 in Q1. Mazepin would have needed to beat a 1.32.726 to go through to Q2.

With Mick and Mazepin, we still wouldn't know how good the car is.

#26 ARTGP

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Posted 19 March 2022 - 23:01

I think it's a bit more clear now why KMag abandoned the Puegeot effort and you can hardly blame him. The Haas is quick, he was told, and surely Kevin will still find a bit more speed (which is worrying for Mick). Remember Alonso after 2 years out took something like half the season to get his form back. The Haas is a points contender. 


Edited by ARTGP, 19 March 2022 - 23:02.


#27 Gintonious

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 00:27

Pure delighted to see them back in the mix. Deserved.

#28 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 00:31

Looks like a promising year.

if they can come up with the cubic dollars to keep up development they could end up fighting at the sharp end of the midfielders.

great return for magnussen, glad to see him so happy.



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Posted 20 March 2022 - 00:31

Don’t rue out Mick improving his quali too. Today he made mistakes in both flying laps probably feeling a bit of pressure from Kevin. He’ll only learn from it and will have the right attitude towards it compared to Mazepin.

Also, there are 23 races this year with 22 more quali’s to go, let’s see how he does over the season. I am confident in the kid’s abilities, work ethic and attitude.

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 00:36

Don’t rue out Mick improving his quali too. Today he made mistakes in both flying laps probably feeling a bit of pressure from Kevin. He’ll only learn from it and will have the right attitude towards it compared to Mazepin.

Also, there are 23 races this year with 22 more quali’s to go, let’s see how he does over the season. I am confident in the kid’s abilities, work ethic and attitude.

I’m confident the kid knows he’s got a serious race car under him. He’ll be fine, just score points and don’t worry about anything else.



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Posted 20 March 2022 - 00:41

I’m confident the kid knows he’s got a serious race car under him. He’ll be fine, just score points and don’t worry about anything else.

 

Absolutely. In a way this will be Mick's real debut season. Apart from procedural stuff and driving a car faster than F2 cars, last year's experience sadly isn't that valuable going forward. Crap team mate and a tractor of a car. The one big plus however is after driving that tractor anything he drives for the rest of his career will be better than the 2021 Haas. Gap to Kevin will shrink and I expect a very tight battle with Haas hopefully in the points with both cars at many races this year.



#32 Gambelli

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 06:23

Mick needs to almost forget about the other side of the garage and get the best from himself, I agree entirely that yesterday isn't his level, and that It was a new type of pressure, double whammy of fast, experienced driver, AND a driver coming back with short notice and being bang on the pace.

 

So ignore what Kevin is doing, even if it means a round or two of quali pain, and focus on himself and getting the best of the car in quali.

 

Remember when Charles went to Ferrari after Alfa?  Analysis was done (forget who, most likely AS) that Charles was the worst driver in the field at putting all his sectors together over 1 quali lap and Vettel was the best, based on the season's qualifying times ideal lap vs actual lap.  Could be the same for Mick, needs to learn to o it now he's also in a better car



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Posted 20 March 2022 - 06:35

I think you are forgetting that KMag hasn’t had the time to get physically ready for racing these cars, especially his neck. So dont expect wonders from him today.

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 09:08

I think you are forgetting that KMag hasn’t had the time to get physically ready for racing these cars, especially his neck. So dont expect wonders from him today.

Has he been in a coma for a year? Or why have his muscles, especially in his neck, deteriorated so much?


Edited by SkorbiF1, 20 March 2022 - 09:14.


#35 ARTGP

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 09:23

I don’t think the worry is his neck. The worry is the reliability. It appears to be built from tinsel.

Edited by ARTGP, 20 March 2022 - 09:23.


#36 PistolPete

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 09:23

Just not trained for the G-Forces that is when driving F1…

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 09:37

Just not trained for the G-Forces that is when driving F1…

Which he has experience of 6 years and 121 grand prixes. Plus testing.



#38 PistolPete

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 09:46

Think you dont get how the body works… There is a reason why all F1 drivers spend so much time in the gym during winter. What happened last year and all the years before is less relevant.

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 09:53

He's gonna feel the neck, but race pace is going to be on the 38's and this isn't a super phisical track.

Should be fine.

Main issue for Haas is reliability.

They never completed a race sim in testing.

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Edited by thegamer23, 20 March 2022 - 09:54.


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#40 Misk

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 10:01

Schumacher needs to get on KMag ASAP or else his F1 career is going to be dead in the water surley?

 

PS: I'm not a huge Magnussen fan but it's great to see a waste of a seat replaced by someone with some actual speed. Can we get rid of Latifi, Stroll and Tsunoda now too please.



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Posted 20 March 2022 - 10:02

The only season I will watch DTS S5 is because I want to see Gunter happy. 



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Posted 20 March 2022 - 10:08

Haas would be in Q3 with both cars had Gio stayed.

Mick is solid young driver, but with this kind of car and two good drivers its easy P6-P7

Edited by TheAviator, 20 March 2022 - 10:09.


#43 Misk

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 10:14

Haas would be in Q3 with both cars had Gio stayed.

Mick is solid young driver, but with this kind of car and two good drivers its easy P6-P7

It does make you wonder where Verstappen, Hamilton or Leclerc would have put that Haas car on the grid today.



#44 Scaboo22

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 10:32

Haas would be in Q3 with both cars had Gio stayed.

Mick is solid young driver, but with this kind of car and two good drivers its easy P6-P7


It’s one quali session. Mick will be ahead of Mag plenty times, he is no Latifi.

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 10:35

It’s one quali session. Mick will be ahead of Mag plenty times, he is no Latifi.

I doubt it. Mick is not bad by any means, but Mag is really fast, especially over one lap.

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 10:44

Mick is always finishing season very strong, he's a "slow" learner, but his ceiling seems quite high, so, he will make progress, he will learn from Kevin, it's an important year, it should be fine.
As said previously there, he's also better on race, so, let's see today before judging too hard.



#47 William Hunt

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 13:14

In a way this will be Mick's real debut season. ....

 

No. This is his real second season. Seems like you're looking for excuses already in case Magnussen will beat him too much. 



#48 William Hunt

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 13:19

Haas would be in Q3 with both cars had Gio stayed.

Mick is solid young driver, but with this kind of car and two good drivers its easy P6-P7

 

For sure, Giovinazzi is a driver that's quicker as Magnussen imho. But don't underestimate Mick's ability to learn: he will improve during the season.



#49 thegamer23

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 16:42

K-Mag, you monster!

#50 Mark521

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Posted 20 March 2022 - 16:48

Great job by K-Mag and the team, held off VB.  To me, Mick is still "cooking" so let's give him a few more races before we judge.