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[ConsiderAndGo]

 

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2021 Qualifying

 

 

Race Result

 

 

Schedule and details

Edited by ConsiderAndGo, 16 March 2022 - 10:40.

[Goron3]

Can't wait for F1 to be back! Very exicted for what I hope to be a great season.

 

Looks like it's going to be very windy all weekend, especially Friday, so I'm sure we'll be seeing drivers go off regularly. 

 

I'm desperately hoping they remove at least one of the DRS zones - 3 seems like overkill.

[Requiem84]

If the cars can indeed follow better than before DRS might be overkill and might ruin any potentially fun battles. 

[ConsiderAndGo]

Yeah I think the FIA should have had a bit of faith in the new regs and removed the DRS on the back straight to start things off. If the regs work as expected, we could see a record number of overtakes.

[sportyskells]

Hass will be hoping to get two cars past turn 3 after the last two years, Grosjean firey crash in 2020 and Mazepin crash on the other side of the track last year

[Clatter]

If the cars can indeed follow better than before DRS might be overkill and might ruin any potentially fun battles.

DRS already succeeded in doing that.

Edited by Clatter, 16 March 2022 - 09:51.

[Ivanhoe]

Can't believe people are still calling the Haas team Hass. It's spelled out in GIANT capitals on their car.

[oli4]

If the cars can indeed follow better than before DRS might be overkill and might ruin any potentially fun battles. 

 

Aren't they going te re-evaluate the DRS during the season? If it turns out to be overkill they should ban it asap.

[JimmyClark]

This week is going so slowly!

 

The weather looks cool, and a bit of a breeze. Definitely will be tricky with these cars in racing action for the first time. 

 

Hopefully it won't be a damp squib of a weekend like Bahrain 2010 (though a Ferrari 1-2 would be a great way to start the year). 

[Requiem84]

Aren't they going te re-evaluate the DRS during the season? If it turns out to be overkill they should ban it asap.

 

I don't know whether they talked about re-evaluating it. But I'm pretty sure they will change the length of the DRS zones if following is easier this year. 

 

Another point for this year is that the draft is less effective, so that might help in making overtaking a bit more difficult in combination with DRS. 

[Ivanhoe]

I don't know whether they talked about re-evaluating it. But I'm pretty sure they will change the length of the DRS zones if following is easier this year. 

 

Another point for this year is that the draft is less effective, so that might help in making overtaking a bit more difficult in combination with DRS. 

Easier following will probably also mean less slipstream. We still have to see the net result of the regulation changes on overtaking possibilities, so evaluating it during the season sounds good and logical to me.

[Requiem84]

Easier following will probably also mean less slipstream. We still have to see the net result of the regulation changes on overtaking possibilities, so evaluating it during the season sounds good and logical to me.

 

Yes, that is exactly the second line of my post you quoted 

[YorkF1Fan]

If the FIA had any faith in their new regs they would have already banned DRS. Glad the season is about to start again, shame the first race isn't in Australia, really wanted to see how the track changes worked out. 

[Ivanhoe]

Lol, it was 

[TradeMark]

Yeah I think the FIA should have had a bit of faith in the new regs and removed the DRS on the back straight to start things off. If the regs work as expected, we could see a record number of overtakes.

Or maybe rather on the main straight. DRS on back straight might add an extra overtaking opportunity, whereas on the main straight it may not be necessary and may be overkill.

[w1Y]

I can see a situation where a pair of cars get into a situation where they change places over and over.

[Risil]

Exciting! Love a first race with new rules. I'm keeping my expectations down about what the aero regs can achieve (I'll accept no Monza 1971s) but there's a lot to look forward to.

[w1Y]

I thinknthe only way it is interesting is if ferrari are fast enough to do a split strategy against max. Otherwise I see max running away with it.

[PitViperRacing]

I can see a situation where a pair of cars get into a situation where they change places over and over.

Haha it might result in 2nd sitting behind first until the last drs zone so they can pinch it at the death.

[noikeee]

What i'm expecting this race

 

1. Max

2. Charles

3. Carlos

*crickets*

4. Lewis

5. Checo because of course he'll qualify like 11th then have to fight back and lose time

6. George

*a lenghty, ponderous pause*

7. Mick

8. Kevin

9. Lando

10. Pierre

 

Bottas wanders around in 8th but then DNFs with a broken something... maybe a sidepod? Can sidepods break?

 

Aaaaand this post will look hilariously stupid to re-read in 4 days time.

Edited by noikeee, 16 March 2022 - 11:34.

[JHSingo]

Can't believe people are still calling the Haas team Hass. It's spelled out in GIANT capitals on their car.

 

Just prepare yourself for the number of people who will spell George's name during this weekend (and likely the full season) as "Russel" *gnashes teeth*. 

[Risil]

I miss the intense Max/Leclerc battles of 2019. Silverstone that year was a classic. If we can get some more of that, I'll be delighted.

[Goron3]

Apparently tyre degradation was much higher than expected during testing. Even with the hardest compounds we could still see multiple pit stops.

 

I half expected that anyway though - I do suspect we'll get a safety car or two. 

[FLB]

I've just heard a radio promo for Barhain. The station is Energie 94.3 FM (Montreal), which is owned by Bell Media, who are also the owners of RDS and TSN (the F1 rights holders in Canada) and who bought the promoter of the Canadian Grand Prix. 

 

The first two names in the promo are Lando Norris and Charles Leclerc. Hamilton and Verstappen are only mentioned in a 'Oh, by the way...' casual fashion.

Edited by FLB, 16 March 2022 - 11:47.

[w1Y]

Haha it might result in 2nd sitting behind first until the last drs zone so they can pinch it at the death.

I think its more in the breaking zones. These cars are so heavy I can see cars easily outbraking them in slow motion on the inside and then it happened in reverse.

[Timstr11]

Some insights from The Secret Aerodynamicist:

https://www.bbc.com/...rmula1/60758079

[statman]

Apparently tyre degradation was much higher than expected during testing. Even with the hardest compounds we could still see multiple pit stops.

 

I half expected that anyway though - I do suspect we'll get a safety car or two. 

 

[AMuS] Foretaste of the new Formula 1: Tire wear was relatively high during testing in Bahrain. The teams also had a strange experience. "The wear was equally high on all tire compounds. It will be a two-stop race, maybe even three tire changes."

[DeKnyff]

Aren't they going te re-evaluate the DRS during the season? If it turns out to be overkill they should ban it asap.

 

One good thing about DRS is that you can easily modulate its impact by adjusting the length of the zones.

[ConsiderAndGo]

[AMuS] Foretaste of the new Formula 1: Tire wear was relatively high during testing in Bahrain. The teams also had a strange experience. "The wear was equally high on all tire compounds. It will be a two-stop race, maybe even three tire changes."

Music to my ears!!

[engineblock1]

A 3-stopper 1st race would be good start. This would mean we would see maybe massive shift in pecking order in coming races so as to who gets their tires to work the best while controlling degradation.

[Hellenic tifosi]

If that turns out to be the case, then nobody will touch the C1 during FP.

[Clatter]

One good thing about DRS is that you can easily modulate its impact by adjusting the length of the zones.

Yeah, but they rarely do.

[Scaboo22]

I am so excited can't believe it's only a few days away! Let's goooo!

My prediction? MSC in the points. 

[Topsu]

 

Tires

 

What does this mean? Mandatory sets? You can only use softs in quali, and you have to use hards and mediums in race?

[Topsu]

Yep, only 2 compounds may be used in he race and 1 in quali as from this season.

Well that is stupid

[Dimocash]

Yep, only 2 compounds may be used in he race and 1 in quali as from this season.

Wel does it say you cannot use a different tire?
As I read this it says you can use the softs in the race, as long als you also use the medium and hard tire.
I could be wrong as this is the first time I see this.

[ConsiderAndGo]

Yep, only 2 compounds may be used in he race and 1 in quali as from this season.

Are you sure? the regs are the same as last year aren't they?

 

E.g one of the C1 or C2 MUST be used in the race. There is nothing prohibiting the use of the C3 in the race.

 

They must use the C3 in Q3, but that will happen naturally now anyway through qualifying as the Q2 start tire rule is gone. (Yay)

Edited by ConsiderAndGo, 16 March 2022 - 13:29.

[MKSixer]

If that turns out to be the case, then nobody will touch the C1 during FP.

Edited by MKSixer, 16 March 2022 - 13:23.

[Ivanhoe]

Are you sure? the regs are the same as last year aren't they?

 

E.g one of the C1 or C2 MUST be used in the race. There is nothing prohibiting the use of the C3 in the race.

Sorry ConsiderAndGo, you are absolutely right, please ignore my post and will delete 

[MKSixer]

Well that is stupid

It's Formula One.  Stupid comes with it, at times.

[Ivanhoe]

It's Formula One.  Stupid comes with it, at times.

Well the one being stupid this time was me     As posted above, I misinterpreted the rules, so I totally understand what happened to Masi in AD now  

Anayway, ConsiderAndGo worded it perfectly above in post #37 

[PayasYouRace]

Can't believe people are still calling the Haas team Hass. It's spelled out in GIANT capitals on their car.

I think fewer people would be making that mistake if others hadn’t complained about those using “HAAS” when referring to the team.

[Hellenic tifosi]

Are you sure? the regs are the same as last year aren't they?

 

E.g one of the C1 or C2 MUST be used in the race. There is nothing prohibiting the use of the C3 in the race.

 

Exactly!

 

Nevertheless, it's still a stupid rule imho.

[MKSixer]

 

Well the one being stupid this time was me     As posted above, I misinterpreted the rules, so I totally understand what happened to Masi in AD now  

Anayway, ConsiderAndGo worded it perfectly above in post #37 

 

All in the vein of keeping it interesting!!  And maybe someone will use the wrong tire at the wrong time, get disqualified and the championship will be decided on that!!  OMG what am I saying?!?!! 

[Topsu]

But are teams not allowed to use mediums in qualifying anymore?

[pitlanepalpatine]

Oh look, winter is over and we're finally racing again.

 

The Ferrari and Alfa are pretty and the Mclaren is weirdly growing on me.

 

[Requiem84]

But are teams not allowed to use mediums in qualifying anymore?

 

I think they are.

 

Only difference for this year I thought is that there is no Q2 tire rule anymore. Meaning that you do not need to start the race on the Q2 tire (if you made it to Q3). 

[sheSgoTthElooK]

2 nights, ladies

 

Just saw the Beyond the Grid Interview of Carlos: https://youtu.be/F1lpoWcaeTc

 

Have not listened to the full interview... but that part got me:

 

"Suddenly my dad tells me, let's go, we have to sign the Ferrari contract, and I was still in my pyjama and I signed my contract in pyjama" 

 

Good luck, Carlos!

Edited by sheSgoTthElooK, 16 March 2022 - 14:00.

[Afterburner]

New rules? I expect nothing less than 10+ DNFs due to an abundance of collisions and random mechanical issues, at least two Safety Cars, and five cars on the lead lap at race’s end or I will be staunchly disappointed.
 
What? It’s happened before WITHOUT new rules.

[Ivanhoe]

But are teams not allowed to use mediums in qualifying anymore?

Yeah they can Topsu, softest compound is only mandatory in Q3. Sorry for the confusion.