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#1 Risil

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Posted 07 April 2022 - 17:05

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Here it is, Indycar’s premier no-overtaking befountained blue riband boring street course extravaganza, back in early spring where it belongs. With palm trees! Yep, it’s time for the delightful Long Beach Grand Prix. What’s angsting us this week? The 2022 Indycar season is two races old and for the first time since 2012, Team Penske has won both of them. It’s been a team effort as it wasn’t the same driver both times, and besides Will Power is second (!!!) in the championship standings, but the fairest way to look at it is that Scott McLaughlin, Sir Scott the Unexpected himself, has dominated so far. He edged out reigning champion at pseudo-Long Beach St Petersburg, and led most of the race at definitely not pseudo-anything Texas until his teammate Josef Newgarden got him at the line. What the hell, right? Who is this guy?

 

What else is going on? Jimmie Johnson cracked the top 10 for the first time in his Indycar career (non-coincidentally, his first oval start) but now we’re back within the cramped and treacherous confines of a street circuit, do we all expect him to be BACK WHERE HE BELONGS? Jimmie is very free of hubris so he’ll probably accept whatever inevitabilities the gods throw at him. Before we rhetorically leave Texas behind us I also want to draw attention to David Malukas’s 11th place for Dale Coyne, on the lead lap and ahead of some consequential personalities. OK, consider it drawn.

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More importantly, here’s the schedule! It’s an IMSA/Indy double-header so there are lots of opportunities to fit some motor racing into your weekend. Photos of the historic IMSA GTPs very appreciated. Times are local Californian Long Beach times, so add 8 hours for the UK and 9 for western Europe. And take away the Toyota Pro/Am Celebrity Race from your mind-picture, because it was cancelled years ago. But the pain was not cancelled.

 

Friday, 8 April

9.15am: IMSA practice 1

1.15pm: IMSA practice 2

3.15: Indycar practice 1

5.10: IMSA qualifying

 

Saturday, 9 April

8.45am: Indycar practice 2

10.45: Porsche Carrera Cup race 1

12.05pm: Indycar qualifying

2: IMSA Sportscar Grand Prix of Long Beach (100 mins)

4.30: Stadium Super Trucks race 1

5.15: IMSA GTP Historics race 1

 

Sunday, 10 April

9am: Indycar warm-up

10.45: IMSA GTP Historics race 2

12.45pm: Acura Grand Prix of Long Beach (85 laps)

3.30: Stadium Super Trucks race 2

4.20: Porsche Carrera Cup race 2

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As for the circuit? You’ve got your not-really-straight pit straight at Shoreline Drive, which is also where the race starts and finishes. You’ve got the complex of corners round the aquarium which ruins the flow of the track but does have a fountain which probably makes up for it. Then the circuit pops up Pine Avenue to join the short back straight at Seaside Way, which interestingly follows the original F1 layout. And then the track winds round to the hairpin at the end of the lap, which is where half the field customarily comes to a dead stop whenever anyone is pushed into a half-spin at 30mph. Fun!

ColtonHertaLongBeach.jpg

So that’s what’ll happen, and when. Apparently it’s going to be 35 degrees C (95 F) on Friday, which sounds weird and disturbing but I suppose if you’re from Long Beach you have to go along with it. Isn’t the Pacific Ocean meant to moderate wild temperatures? Better not ask. It’s forecast to be a frigid 21 C (70 F) on Sunday. Such is life. OK! Thread activated.



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#2 billm99uk

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Posted 07 April 2022 - 17:59

 

 Jimmie is very free of hubris so he’ll probably accept whatever inevitabilities the gods throw at him. 

 

Tatiana Calderon probably...



#3 maximilian

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Posted 07 April 2022 - 17:59

FINALLY another IndyCar race!  Can't wait!!  :clap:



#4 Ben1445

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Posted 07 April 2022 - 18:25

Long Beach is always a favourite so I will be sure to tune in. It may just cheer me up.



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Posted 07 April 2022 - 18:58

Now, more than ever, we NEED a car IN the fountain and not just the pretty planting area this time…
Actually IN the Fountain!!!!

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Who would YOU like to see IN the Fountain?

Jp

Edited by jonpollak, 08 April 2022 - 07:48.


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Posted 07 April 2022 - 19:59

Now, more than ever, we NEED a car IN the fountain and not just the pretty planting area this time… Actually IN the Fountain!!!!

Who would YOU like to see IN the Fountain?

Jp

If only the W Series were a suport race, they could do a spectacular swimsuit routine in the fountain, a la Busby Berkeley.   :drunk:



#7 H0R

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Posted 07 April 2022 - 20:30

I am a simply man. I mainly look forward to a couple of T11 shenanigans. (As you see I just learned yet another awesome english word and was desparate to bring it to use  :p )



#8 loki

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Posted 07 April 2022 - 20:53

Now, more than ever, we NEED a car IN the fountain and not just the pretty planting area this time… Actually IN the Fountain!!!!

Who would YOU like to see IN the Fountain?

Jp

 

Paul Tracy…



#9 red stick

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Posted 07 April 2022 - 20:54

Tatiana Calderon probably...


While DeFrancesco still stalks the Earth? I think not!

#10 ezequiel

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Posted 07 April 2022 - 21:24

If only the W Series were a suport race, they could do a spectacular swimsuit routine in the fountain, a la Busby Berkeley.   :drunk:

We will have to content ourselves with a naked Helio Castroneves inside a tire



#11 Frood

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Posted 07 April 2022 - 21:28

We will have to content ourselves with a naked Helio Castroneves inside a tire

I'm sorry, the best I can do is Sad Semi-Shirtless Hinchcliffe.

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#12 H0R

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Posted 07 April 2022 - 21:51

Your wish is my command.

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Honestly the pic wouldn't be half as hysterical if not for his grin. "Look, mom, no pants!"



#13 prommer

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Posted 07 April 2022 - 22:11

 

 

 Photos of the historic IMSA GTPs very appreciated. 

 

Looks like Zak Brown has indulged you, as he's shared on twitter his ride for the weekend, a 1989 Jaguar XKR-10.

 

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#14 paulb

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Posted 07 April 2022 - 23:39

Thank-you for the op Risil!

I too envy those who will be able to experience or re-experience the wonder that was GTP racing.

The only certainty for the weekend is that Sundays race weather will be fabulous.

#15 FLB

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Posted 08 April 2022 - 11:49

OT, but related to another topic on this forum.

 

 

This week, the officials from another racing series reminded drivers not to wear jewelry as it might pose a safety issue. I remember reading somewhere than an IndyCar driver very nearly lost a hand after a fire, in part because the wristband of his watch had started melting in the fire? Either Jim Hurtubise, Mel Kenyon or Lee Kunzmann?

 

 

Or am I misremembering something?



#16 juicy sushi

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Posted 08 April 2022 - 14:23

IndyCar getting into the mood themselves with the 1996 edition here, featuring those lovely 900hp Reynard Hondas...

 



#17 Risil

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Posted 08 April 2022 - 14:34

Looks like Zak Brown has indulged you, as he's shared on twitter his ride for the weekend, a 1989 Jaguar XKR-10.

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Those rear wheel fairings looked cool as hell.

#18 Jim Thurman

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Posted 08 April 2022 - 15:58

OT, but related to another topic on this forum.

 

 

This week, the officials from another racing series reminded drivers not to wear jewelry as it might pose a safety issue. I remember reading somewhere than an IndyCar driver very nearly lost a hand after a fire, in part because the wristband of his watch had started melting in the fire? Either Jim Hurtubise, Mel Kenyon or Lee Kunzmann?

 

 

Or am I misremembering something?

 

I don't specifically recall the wristwatch story, but that is a good idea. Jewelry can complicate injuries. Even breaks to fingers can be complicated by rings. It was advised to not wear any jewelry even in cycling, all the more important for motorsports.



#19 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 08 April 2022 - 19:10

Until not too long ago people wore watches. 

 

DeFrancesco gets a 6-spot grid penalty for his Texas entertainment. Which is fine, but why did it take two weeks?  :drunk:



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#20 shotcaller

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Posted 08 April 2022 - 22:24

Should easily be 20 degrees cooler on race day. Don't know what the tires will do in this heat.



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Posted 08 April 2022 - 22:33

Who would YOU like to see IN the Fountain?
 

 

Last year I would have said Grosjean, Ed Jones and Cody Ware. Three Coynes in the fountain.



#22 ANF

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Posted 08 April 2022 - 22:43

Practice is live now. I just noticed when I looked at the weekend schedule.



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Posted 08 April 2022 - 22:44


03-20-Texas-Finish.jpg
Here it is, Indycar’s premier no-overtaking befountained blue riband boring street course extravaganza, back in early spring where it belongs. With palm trees! Yep, it’s time for the delightful Long Beach Grand Prix. What’s angsting us this week? The 2022 Indycar season is two races old and for the first time since 2012, Team Penske has won both of them. It’s been a team effort as it wasn’t the same driver both times, and besides Will Power is second (!!!) in the championship standings, but the fairest way to look at it is that Scott McLaughlin, Sir Scott the Unexpected himself, has dominated so far. He edged out reigning champion at pseudo-Long Beach St Petersburg, and led most of the race at definitely not pseudo-anything Texas until his teammate Josef Newgarden got him at the line. What the hell, right? Who is this guy?

What else is going on? Jimmie Johnson cracked the top 10 for the first time in his Indycar career (non-coincidentally, his first oval start) but now we’re back within the cramped and treacherous confines of a street circuit, do we all expect him to be BACK WHERE HE BELONGS? Jimmie is very free of hubris so he’ll probably accept whatever inevitabilities the gods throw at him. Before we rhetorically leave Texas behind us I also want to draw attention to David Malukas’s 11th place for Dale Coyne, on the lead lap and ahead of some consequential personalities. OK, consider it drawn.
04-06-LongBeach-FinalSection-Scenic-With
More importantly, here’s the schedule! It’s an IMSA/Indy double-header so there are lots of opportunities to fit some motor racing into your weekend. Photos of the historic IMSA GTPs very appreciated. Times are local Californian Long Beach times, so add 8 hours for the UK and 9 for western Europe. And take away the Toyota Pro/Am Celebrity Race from your mind-picture, because it was cancelled years ago. But the pain was not cancelled.

Friday, 8 April
9.15am: IMSA practice 1
1.15pm: IMSA practice 2
3.15: Indycar practice 1
5.10: IMSA qualifying

Saturday, 9 April
8.45am: Indycar practice 2
10.45: Porsche Carrera Cup race 1
12.05pm: Indycar qualifying
2: IMSA Sportscar Grand Prix of Long Beach (100 mins)
4.30: Stadium Super Trucks race 1
5.15: IMSA GTP Historics race 1

Sunday, 10 April
9am: Indycar warm-up
10.45: IMSA GTP Historics race 2
12.45pm: Acura Grand Prix of Long Beach (85 laps)
3.30: Stadium Super Trucks race 2
4.20: Porsche Carrera Cup race 2
1280px-Long_Beach_Street_Circuit_IndyCar
As for the circuit? You’ve got your not-really-straight pit straight at Shoreline Drive, which is also where the race starts and finishes. You’ve got the complex of corners round the aquarium which ruins the flow of the track but does have a fountain which probably makes up for it. Then the circuit pops up Pine Avenue to join the short back straight at Seaside Way, which interestingly follows the original F1 layout. And then the track winds round to the hairpin at the end of the lap, which is where half the field customarily comes to a dead stop whenever anyone is pushed into a half-spin at 30mph. Fun!
ColtonHertaLongBeach.jpg
So that’s what’ll happen, and when. Apparently it’s going to be 35 degrees C (95 F) on Friday, which sounds weird and disturbing but I suppose if you’re from Long Beach you have to go along with it. Isn’t the Pacific Ocean meant to moderate wild temperatures? Better not ask. It’s forecast to be a frigid 21 C (70 F) on Sunday. Such is life. OK! Thread activated.

Someway to induce libery to offer Indy in F1 app? While I am att it MotoGP too!

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Posted 08 April 2022 - 22:57

Danger Zone discussion!!!

#25 FLB

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Posted 08 April 2022 - 22:59

Dixon's in the tires?



#26 rghojai

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Posted 08 April 2022 - 23:02

Not yet. Run-off area.

#27 FLB

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Posted 08 April 2022 - 23:04

Front nose mention on IndyCar Radio.

 

Don't tell Marshall Pruett.



#28 FLB

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Posted 09 April 2022 - 01:14

Johnson is questionable:

 

Nathan Brown sur Twitter : "After his accident today in Turn 5, Jimmie says he’s headed to get a 2nd opinion, but no official update on his condition for Saturday & Sunday." / Twitter



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Posted 09 April 2022 - 06:43

Front nose mention on IndyCar Radio.

 

Don't tell Marshall Pruett.

We all know what the opposite of the front nose is. Harvest the lower horn!



#30 jonpollak

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Posted 09 April 2022 - 15:23

I’m stuck with some questionable picks…..
Jp

#31 loki

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Posted 09 April 2022 - 15:41

Johnson has a fracture (and we all know how painful that can be…).

 

https://racer.com/20...beach-practice/



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Posted 09 April 2022 - 15:44

I’m surprised a driver of his experience didn’t let go of the wheel in the crash. Rookie mistake.

Hope his arm heals soon. He’s been a bit more promising lately.

Who will sub for him?

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Posted 09 April 2022 - 15:47

Sad news. Wishing Jimmie a speedy recovery!



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Posted 09 April 2022 - 15:48

MP has an interview with Mr. Penske that's worth a read (and a  :eek:  and a :lol: at the bluntness)...

 

Penske not feeling threatened by F1’s American expansion | RACER



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Posted 09 April 2022 - 15:54

I’m surprised a driver of his experience didn’t let go of the wheel in the crash. Rookie mistake.

Hope his arm heals soon. He’s been a bit more promising lately.

Who will sub for him?

He’s out on the track now.  Running mid pack.

 

Dropping like a rock.


Edited by loki, 09 April 2022 - 15:58.


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Posted 09 April 2022 - 15:54

Penske isn't someone I agree with on everything, but I respect his love for the sport and the work he has put in to developing the series.



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Posted 09 April 2022 - 15:58

He’s out on the track now. Running mid pack.


Can’t fault that level of determination.

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Posted 09 April 2022 - 16:07

Can’t fault that level of determination.

Yeah.  He’s hurt. They built a brace but he must be in pain.  He’s out on track again but it’s not looking good.
 

They may want to have Rocky Moran on speed dial…


Edited by loki, 09 April 2022 - 16:12.


#39 FLB

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Posted 09 April 2022 - 16:09

We're getting close to the month of May...  :kiss:  :D

 

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#40 Jim Thurman

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Posted 09 April 2022 - 16:38

Front nose mention on IndyCar Radio.

 

Don't tell Marshall Pruett.

 

When A.J. Foyt suffered his awful, late career accident at Road America, one TV sportscaster reported that Foyt: "suffered a badly broken left front leg."



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Posted 09 April 2022 - 17:23

Yeah.  He’s hurt. They built a brace but he must be in pain.  He’s out on track again but it’s not looking good.
 

They may want to have Rocky Moran on speed dial…

Paging Ferrucci . . .



#42 Peat

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Posted 09 April 2022 - 18:08

Now, more than ever, we NEED a car IN the fountain and not just the pretty planting area this time…
Actually IN the Fountain!!!!

1-C926-EFC-14-F0-4519-852-E-9-FCE6-D1-AF

Who would YOU like to see IN the Fountain?

Jp

 

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Something about pink & black cars and the Fountain Foliage....



#43 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 09 April 2022 - 18:23

God and I thought the hairpin incident was daft



#44 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 09 April 2022 - 19:05

Here we go!

#45 krapmeister

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Posted 09 April 2022 - 19:10

Painful weekend for JJ

#46 FLB

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Posted 09 April 2022 - 19:14

Did Rossi brush the wall?



#47 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 09 April 2022 - 19:16

Great job Kirkwood, kicking Rahal and Veekay out amongst others

#48 FLB

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Posted 09 April 2022 - 19:17

Is McLaughlin this season's Palou?



#49 ANF

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Posted 09 April 2022 - 19:20

Great job Kirkwood, kicking Rahal and Veekay out amongst others

That kid is pretty good, isn't he.

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Posted 09 April 2022 - 19:21

The move for Harvey really isn't working out so far is it