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13th Grand Prix De Monaco Historique - 2022


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#51 as65p

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Posted 15 May 2022 - 17:05

Looked like he failed to slow the car. Three pedals so maybe he left foot braked the clutch... More likely he's telling the truth. He's usually hard on him self and honest about mistakes.

I could sympathize, from once in a blue moon driving the automatic Volvo of my mother and trying to engage the clutch... :p. But somehow I'd expect better from those guys.



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#52 alexsab

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Posted 15 May 2022 - 17:12

If you see the conversation that Leclerc had with Jacky Ickx in French, Charles explains that he had brake pressure initially and then the pedal went to the floor. Possibly he was trying to throw the car into a spin on the turn-in to Rascasse in a bid to avoid hitting the barrier head-on (or at least minimise the contact).

 

You can hear from his voice that he was quite shaken up by the experience. He mentions that he felt fear (which is something he doesn't usually feel in a racing car): "le probleme c'est que j'ai pris peur". Jacky senses this and tries to reassure him by saying the main thing is that he's OK. Charles was counting his blessings that it happened into Rascasse and not at a more dangerous point such as Ste Devote or the exit of the tunnel.

 

https://twitter.com/...806810250326016

(from F1 Retro)


Edited by alexsab, 15 May 2022 - 17:20.


#53 Casey

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Posted 15 May 2022 - 17:37

That last crash was much , much worse than Leclerc , to bad the stream ended before the actual race ended .



#54 Pablo Vignone

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Posted 15 May 2022 - 18:28

Was this Ferrari 312B3 the same car/chassis Jean Alesi crashed last year in the incident with Marco Werner? I seemed to remember that car was property of a German team. If so, the same car crashed tow consecutive years... 

 

Who is going to pay the damage? What do you think, guys? 



#55 Nemo1965

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Posted 15 May 2022 - 19:06

If you see the conversation that Leclerc had with Jacky Ickx in French, Charles explains that he had brake pressure initially and then the pedal went to the floor. Possibly he was trying to throw the car into a spin on the turn-in to Rascasse in a bid to avoid hitting the barrier head-on (or at least minimise the contact).

You can hear from his voice that he was quite shaken up by the experience. He mentions that he felt fear (which is something he doesn't usually feel in a racing car): "le probleme c'est que j'ai pris peur". Jacky senses this and tries to reassure him by saying the main thing is that he's OK. Charles was counting his blessings that it happened into Rascasse and not at a more dangerous point such as Ste Devote or the exit of the tunnel.

https://twitter.com/...806810250326016
(from F1 Retro)


I stand corrected. BTW: I never suggested that Leclerc was lying, I thought it was probable (seeing the footage) that he overestimated the braking power of the car. But I believe his explanation (now).

#56 Cliff

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Posted 15 May 2022 - 19:22

That sounds scary!

#57 Anja

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 11:07

Looks like there's photographic proof of the brake failure:

 

https://www.motorspo...crash/10305383/



#58 Astandahl

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 11:17

Looks like there's photographic proof of the brake failure:

 

https://www.motorspo...crash/10305383/

Of course... Hilarious that some people doubted his version. There is even a reddit post that explained why Ferrari was trying to cover up that it was a mistake :rotfl:


Edited by Astandahl, 16 May 2022 - 11:17.


#59 alexsab

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 11:44

Indeed... Jonny Noble explains it very clearly in his story with the accompanying photo.

 

As it was a front-left brake failure there was still some deceleration, but nothing like enough to get the car stopped to the 30-40mph needed to round Rascasse - plus it caused the car to snap right around on him, as you would expect with a complete brake failure on one side of the car.

 

Shame, as he seemed to be enjoying the run and giving the 312B3 a nice blast - I heard one fumbled gearchange at Ste Devote but other than that he looked very much at home in it! And what a glorious engine note that flat-12 has (hardly an original point, I know, but every time I hear it it makes me smile...) 



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#60 Dan333SP

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 13:29

Was this Ferrari 312B3 the same car/chassis Jean Alesi crashed last year in the incident with Marco Werner? I seemed to remember that car was property of a German team. If so, the same car crashed tow consecutive years... 

 

Who is going to pay the damage? What do you think, guys? 

 

Rene Aroux also crashed a 312B3 at Monaco last year, I think there were 2 present that weekend and both were actually racing unlike this year, but it does seem pretty surprising that 3 former Ferrari F1 drivers all got into the same type of historic GP car and had incidents. I think only the Aroux incident can be blamed on the driver, but it does make you wonder about the repair bills. Do they fabricate new wings/suspension components/bodywork when these things get damaged? Does the factory still have a supply of reconditioned spares for cars like this? Always been curious about that. 



#61 BobbyRicky

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 13:31

Imagine how much a Ferrari F1-car driven by Niki Lauda and crashed by Charles Leclerc is worth.



#62 Dan333SP

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 13:39

Imagine how much a Ferrari F1-car driven by Niki Lauda and crashed by Charles Leclerc is worth.

 

Lol that's actually probably somewhat true... being crashed by a Ferrari driver currently leading the WDC probably doesn't hurt the market value at all, even if the original wing is toast.