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Serious incidents at the start of the British GP, 2022


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#1 SophieB

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 14:39

At the time of writing, Zhou and Albon who were in horrendous accidents at the start of the 2022 British GP. It’s for updates which are going to come on the back of such a serious incident but feel free to analyse and respond.



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#2 Dutchrudder

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 14:44

I’m going to repeat this here, there is a shot of the race start and all the grid panels are flashing yellow before the accidents begin.

It’s clear someone/something detected the danger, yet the race was not neutralised at that point.

#3 Sam1

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 14:44

was expecting this thread to go mental 



#4 SenorSjon

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 14:52

It seems the roll hoop has gotten less love since the introduction of the halo. Adding all that weight on the car really needed to beef up the roll hoop.

Edited by SenorSjon, 03 July 2022 - 14:52.


#5 MattPete

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 14:55

I’m going to repeat this here, there is a shot of the race start and all the grid panels are flashing yellow before the accidents begin.

It’s clear someone/something detected the danger, yet the race was not neutralised at that point.

 

I replayed the start several times. There were no flashing yellows.



#6 statman

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 14:56

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#7 masa90

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 14:58

That could ended really badly. Also those prostesters at the track.



#8 macjim

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 14:59

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lucky boy, glad he’s ok.



#9 masa90

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 15:00

I replayed the start several times. There were no flashing yellows.

Yes there was. I saw it on the pit wall.



#10 Peter3hg

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 15:00

Thank heavens there was no fire.

#11 FLB

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 15:05

Full sequence...

 

https://twitter.com/...604118207561732



#12 ensign14

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 15:06

I think everything now has to be put in the context of Sainz being far far far more aggressive off the startline towards Verstappen but that didn't end in a massive accident.



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Posted 03 July 2022 - 15:12

@WilliamsRacing

Alex has been transferred by helicopter to Coventry Hospital for precautionary checks following the opening lap incident. We will provide updates when available.

 
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#14 Beri

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 15:15

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Luckily he is okay. So a sandwich joke is allowed to be made.

What an idiot move by Russell that started it all.

#15 Izzyeviel

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 15:19

what happened to Albon?



#16 ensign14

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 15:25

what happened to Albon?

Got hit by Vettel, Ocon, and Tsunoda.



#17 FLB

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 15:28

what happened to Albon?

Straight on impact with the pitwall. Potential hand/wrist issues.



#18 djparky

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 15:39

The car safety did its job there, highly unusual for a car to end up there. Glad he's ok.

#19 Myrvold

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 15:41

I find it curious that Albon was taken to hospital by helicopter.



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#20 Myrvold

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 15:42

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Ignoring the possible seriousness of the situation, and Getty being... Getty.

That is an awesome picture!



#21 Beri

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 15:46

Ignoring the possible seriousness of the situation, and Getty being... Getty.
That is an awesome picture!


Call it journalism and just take it as it is. Even if it were not that good for Zhou.

#22 Dutchrudder

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 16:05

I replayed the start several times. There were no flashing yellows.

Vettel’s car cam shows them all lit up flashing along the left 2nd half of the grid. They clear before the incident and then all hell breaks loose.

I get why the drivers aren’t reacting to them, though.

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 16:35

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Damn!!!



#24 Red5ive

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 16:40

What an idiot move by Russell that started it all.

 

 

He got tagged by Gasly who got sandwiched - a typical start incident - hence no further action......



#25 SophieB

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 16:57

Jenson looking at the incident on Sky noting touching the escape road is what flipped the car.



#26 SophieB

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 17:01

Via Motorsport.com: back in the paddock, incredible.

 

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#27 cpbell

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 17:34

He got tagged by Gasly who got sandwiched - a typical start incident - hence no further action......

Yes, not George's fault.



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Posted 03 July 2022 - 17:37

I’m going to repeat this here, there is a shot of the race start and all the grid panels are flashing yellow before the accidents begin.

It’s clear someone/something detected the danger, yet the race was not neutralised at that point.


I’m pretty sure they did that because Tsunoda had an especially slow getaway. The yellows flashed around where he started on the grid. So I think that was to warn of a slow starting car not anything to do with the pinch between Zhou, Gasly, Russell.

#29 RA2

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 17:39

Totally George's fault for ducking left where Gasly was.

#30 cpbell

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 17:39

Just seen photos - roll structure sheared off.  Second life saved this weekend by the Halo, or at least, one life and life-altering paralysis.  FIA should ban blade roll structures.



#31 AlexPrime

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 17:41

So happy to see Zhou OK ^_^



#32 Atreiu

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 17:42

Totally George's fault for ducking left where Gasly was.

 

That's my opinion as well.



#33 Beri

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 17:43

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In all fairness, the crash itself was not really severe. It was nasty, but not truly a hard or a big one. Albons impact might have been bigger.
None the less, it's testament to the ever ongoing efforts by the FIA to make those cars safer and safer every single time. And today's shunt by Zhou proved that work is to be done ever more, as the main roll hoop structure failed and the Halo truly saved a life today.

#34 jpm2019

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:07

Thank you halo

#35 SophieB

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:09

In all fairness, the crash itself was not really severe. It was nasty, but not truly a hard or a big one. Albons impact might have been bigger.
None the less, it's testament to the ever ongoing efforts by the FIA to make those cars safer and safer every single time. And today's shunt by Zhou proved that work is to be done ever more, as the main roll hoop structure failed and the Halo truly saved a life today.

Yeah, I was saying in the race thread that the Albon impacts were really bad. Always a problem when there’s multiple big hits in quick succession because the crash structure protection isn’t there for that bit of the car after the first impact.



#36 smitten

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:11

Any news on Albon?



#37 Mat13

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:20

Jenson looking at the incident on Sky noting touching the escape road is what flipped the car.


That’s what it looked like to me- like it caught the concrete edge at the end of the gravel.

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:22

when car was skidding upside down, could see halo did a lot to prevent injury or even death.



#39 SophieB

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:27

Any news on Albon?

No. Ted just said on the notebook and said Williams had nothing to tell him beyond he’d been airlifted to hospital.

 

(I *think* the main A road was closed during the race?)



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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:29

Any news on Albon?

I'm pretty sure it was said on broadcast he was back in the paddock before the end of the race.



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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:29

George was reckless. He moved across where Gasly was and he seemed to be looking in his left mirror as well when he did it. This is not the first time he's been involved in a high speed accident that could've had serious consequences. 



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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:32

This may have been the first time I was glad they did not show the wreck until it was clear Zhou was ‘ok’.

Motor Racing IS STILL dangerous
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#43 Claudius

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:33

I thought Gassly was more to blame. Going for a gap between two cars with a corner coming. He then took both Russell and Zhou out.

Maybe I-m wrong but that's what it looked like in the replays.



#44 Beri

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:40

This may have been the first time I was glad they did not show the wreck until it was clear Zhou was ‘ok’.
Motor Racing IS STILL dangerous
Jp


I will always have the opinion that I want to see what is happening. Even when it is bad.
That being said; I do respect the fact that it isn't shown. But that doesn't take away that it just frustrates me that you don't get any news and that you do have to rely on social media/YouTube to find out what has happened.

#45 SophieB

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:41

I will always have the opinion that I want to see what is happening. Even when it is bad.
That being said; I do respect the fact that it isn't shown. But that doesn't take away that it just frustrates me that you don't get any news and that you do have to rely on social media/YouTube to find out what has happened.

Because in the past we’ve heard interim updates that have proved wide of the mark. It must be agony on the watching family but how much more terrible to hear good news that turns out to be sadly inaccurate.



#46 juicy sushi

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:45

I think Russell and Gasly both made bad choices, but everyone does off the start. Usually it all works out, this time it didn’t. Very much an unfortunate racing accident.

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:45

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With that look, one would think that the guy in the background failed in his attempt to murder Zhou.



#48 Michael Ferner

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:48

Not showing replays of the accident will only promote gory websites.  :down:



#49 GentlemanDriver091

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:49

He got tagged by Gasly who got sandwiched - a typical start incident - hence no further action......

I think it was the other way around, Russel squeezed Gasly which caused it all, including the Albon accident.

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Posted 03 July 2022 - 18:52

Because in the past we’ve heard interim updates that have proved wide of the mark. It must be agony on the watching family but how much more terrible to hear good news that turns out to be sadly inaccurate.

On Ch4 they said that they wouldn't show the replays (i.e. the world feed wouldn't) until the status of the driver was confirmed.  I did wonder what they would do if the status of the driver was confirmed as "badly injured".  Still show it, or not?  We'd all want to see it, yet simultaneously wouldn't.