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[Richard Jenkins]

From a former Tyrrell mechanic:

 

On Saturday the 19th of February 1983 the Tyrrell team appeared on the BBC show Saturday Superstore hosted by Mike Read. We were appearing to break/set a wheel change record for Guinness Book of Records. Norris McWhirter was in charge of the stop watch - which he cocked up on the first timed run so we had to do it twice and it was bl00dy cold, David Hunt drove the car. I've been in contact with the BBC but it appears the tapes and any recordings have been wiped from their archives. Surprising as Kajagoogoo were appearing on the show and were number1 at the time. Can you put the feelers out to your sources to see if anyone has a recording that I can have a copy of. Many thanks,

 

 

This may be mission impossible but one can but try.

 

If it helps, there was also a feature by David Icke (yes, he of lizard, Son of God fame) with Keke Rosberg at a probably equally freezing Silverstone. From what I've been told, the footage went straight from the Tyrrell record try to Icke and Keke.

 

If anyone can help, let me know and I'll PM the contact details over to you.

 

Many thanks

Edited by Richard Jenkins, 14 August 2022 - 17:48.

[Gary C]

I'm asking around with my TV archive friends as we speak...

[Richard Jenkins]

Thanks Gary! I knew if anyone could do anything, it would be you!

[Alan Lewis]

Very much a last resort, but if all else fails then you could follow the Kajagoogoo lead. Bass/keys/stick player Nick Beggs has a site and social media links at...

http://nickbeggs.co.uk/

Might have a copy, or know someone who does.

These days he makes (prog rock) far more interesting stuff (prog rock) that you can't dance to (thank God).
😊

[absinthedude]

There was no requirement for broadcasters to keep children's TV back then so a lot of it has gone missing, master tapes wiped and reused. Often when excerpts of Saturday Superstore, Swap Shop or other similar shows are used as DVD extras these days, they originate from VHS recordings that someone has been sitting on for 30-40 years. 

 

 

I remember the pit stop challenge, I would have been 10 at the time. Hopefully someone, somewhere has a VHS copy they made and kept.

[TennisUK]

Different thing, but the thread reminded me of this:

 

[Tim C 27]

I may have it on a vhs cassette - I think there’s a piece about Keke Rosberg testing his Williams FW08c at Brands Hatch too.

Slight problem is that I live in Abu Dhabi and all my stuff is still in UK. I’m coming home at Christmas and I’ll try to remember to look for the tape. I’m pretty sure that I know where it is.

[Richard Jenkins]

Tim, if you managed to do that, that would be incredible. Im well aware this is likely mission impossible due to the BBC's policy of wiping old stuff

[Richard Jenkins]

Polite bump for Tim to remember to look imminently, but also in case anyone else managed to unearth the footage....

[Rupertlt1]

The standard answer from the BBC is that they haven't got something, when in fact they have. Years of denial that they were holding a copy of Wheelbase, featuring Chris Sclater and Michael Frostick in an Escort Mexico on the Monte 1972 turned out to be wrong. They then said I couldn't access it because I had no standing. I then turned up Chris Sclater and the cameraman Colin Waldeck who, as participants in the programme, are entitled to request a copy. Still no dice. I offered to pay for the programme to be digitised. Blocked.   (Wheelbase also covered the Safari Rally in 1972, probably in the vaults somewhere.) Talking to the BBC is like dealing with the Soviet Electric Company, a producer-driven outfit where the viewers are a nuisance.

 

RGDS RLT

Edited by Rupertlt1, 17 December 2022 - 05:45.

[Gary C]

Apologies Richard, my former BBC colleagues didn't come up with anything.

[LittleChris]

The standard answer from the BBC is that they haven't got something, when in fact they have. Years of denial that they were holding a copy of Wheelbase, featuring Chris Sclater and Michael Frostick in an Escort Mexico on the Monte 1972 turned out to be wrong. They then said I couldn't access it because I had no standing..

RGDS RLT

And they're funded by .......... 🙄

[john aston]

Shock horror - a broadcaster can't be bothered to find a 50 year old tv programme which is only of interest to 23 people .. I realise BBC bashing is now a national pastime but what it does well , radio especially , it does briliantly . 

[Rupertlt1]

Shock horror - a broadcaster can't be bothered to find a 50 year old tv programme which is only of interest to 23 people .. I realise BBC bashing is now a national pastime but what it does well , radio especially , it does briliantly . 

 

John, The BBC often make a song and dance about their back catalogue, viz BritBox, which is why I find their attitude so strange. Surely somebody seeking a programme after fifty years is some measure of their success?  (I covered off budgetary considerations.)

I was hoping that Chris Sclater, Colin Waldeck, myself and others could see the programme while we still can. Some mean-minded apparatchik has decided that is not to be, while the film sits in their archive deteriorating. They don't need to search for it as it is in their catalogue:

 

The Monte Carlo Rally

BBC Two England, 30 January 1972 20.10
Synopsis
The 1971 British Rally Champion Chris Sclater and Monte historian Michael Frostick report on the motoring event of the year as it happens.
For the past nine days, 300 of the best rally crews in the world have been driving from all over Europe through winter snow and ice to the sunshine of Monte Carlo. Up against 38 German BMWs and 30 French Renault Alpines are a dozen British cars, among them a Ford Escort Mexico driven by the 26-year-old British National Rally Champion Chris Sclater. Starting with him from Glasgow is Wheelbase reporter Michael Frostick, a Monte competitor since 1954 and author of The History of the Monte Carlo Rally.
Tonight they tell the story of the 1972 Monte from the driving seat and examine some of the reasons for the event's popularity and prestige.
(Radio Times People: page 5)
Contributors
Driver/Reporter: Chris Sclater.
Driver/Reporter: Michael Frostick
Cameraman: Erik Durschmied
Cameraman: Colin Waldeck
Director: Tony Salmon
Editor: Brian Robins

 

Personally I haven't had a TV licence for about 25 years. I have no television. They would have to pay me to watch the modern BBC. Your radio point may be valid but you can listen without paying for it!

 

P.S. I'm no film buff but I believe Erik Durschmied was a top man in his field. 

RGDS RLT  

Edited by Rupertlt1, 18 December 2022 - 11:27.

[Tim C 27]

Richard - I have had a look and so-far have not yet managed to find it, unfortunately. If I get the opportunity I will try to search again. I’m sure that it is there somewhere.