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[balage06]

Forgot to mention it yesterday, Nojiri will miss this weekend because of a collapsed lung.   Wish him a speedy recovery.

 

https://www.motorspo...mugen/10471116/

Edited by balage06, 20 May 2023 - 08:22.

[balage06]

Lawson claimed his second win of the season with remarkable tyre management today and now leads the points table. He certainly does what he can to keep Marko's and Honda's attention.

[Myrvold]

I couldn't find any SuperGT related thread, so eurobeat intesifies...

And crashes too.

 

Not seen any reports of any major injuries. That's amazing. https://twitter.com/...250218944655361

Edited by Myrvold, 05 June 2023 - 00:11.

[Myrvold]

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Edited by Myrvold, 05 June 2023 - 00:12.

[juicy sushi]

The videos are pretty shocking. That was a HUGE hit.

[expert]

Good qualifying from Lawson finally - and it led to a comfortable win.  If he can start on the front row for the remaining races the championship should be his.

[juicy sushi]

Spec suspension, starting next year, to close the gap between the haves and have nots: https://www.motorspo...hange/10500205/

[PayasYouRace]

LolaB0860, on 26 Apr 2023 - 14:22, said:

Dreams of SF becoming Japanese GP support race, maybe, someday
https://www.motorspo...kondo/10460614/

Shows how much I know. I always assumed not only that they’d supported the Grand Prix in the past, but that they were generally a support series for SuperGT. The latter is what I’d always assumed was the top series in Japan.

I’ve always said I think each GP should be supported by the highest profile local series possible, so this would fit in nicely.

[LolaB0860]

PayasYouRace, on 26 Jul 2023 - 12:32, said:

Shows how much I know. I always assumed not only that they’d supported the Grand Prix in the past, but that they were generally a support series for SuperGT. The latter is what I’d always assumed was the top series in Japan.

I’ve always said I think each GP should be supported by the highest profile local series possible, so this would fit in nicely.

Yeah ahree. Australia always knew how to handle it, but they were the exception

juicy sushi, on 26 Jul 2023 - 12:08, said:

Spec suspension, starting next year, to close the gap between the haves and have nots: https://www.motorspo...hange/10500205/

Boo.

[Myrvold]

PayasYouRace, on 26 Jul 2023 - 12:32, said:

I’ve always said I think each GP should be supported by the highest profile local series possible, so this would fit in nicely.

 

NASCAR supporting F1 at Cota, IndyCar at Miami and... uh, Stadium Super Trucks at Vegas?

DTM as a support race?

BTCC?

Stock Car Brasil? (Rubinho, Kanaan, Zonta and Piquet jr!!)

 

What would be dragged up at Azerbaijan? Or the Middle-East, or even Red Bull Ring?

 

I am all for the idea though! It would be awesome!

[PayasYouRace]

Myrvold, on 26 Jul 2023 - 14:59, said:

NASCAR supporting F1 at Cota, IndyCar at Miami and... uh, Stadium Super Trucks at Vegas?
DTM as a support race?
BTCC?
Stock Car Brasil? (Rubinho, Kanaan, Zonta and Piquet jr!!)

What would be dragged up at Azerbaijan? Or the Middle-East, or even Red Bull Ring?

I am all for the idea though! It would be awesome!

I was thinking IMSA for the third US race, but you certainly get the idea.

[SB]

Myrvold, on 26 Jul 2023 - 14:59, said:

NASCAR supporting F1 at Cota, IndyCar at Miami and... uh, Stadium Super Trucks at Vegas?

DTM as a support race?

BTCC?

Stock Car Brasil? (Rubinho, Kanaan, Zonta and Piquet jr!!)

 

What would be dragged up at Azerbaijan? Or the Middle-East, or even Red Bull Ring?

 

I am all for the idea though! It would be awesome!

 

Wasn't BTCC a support race for British GP in the 80's or 90's ?

[PayasYouRace]

SB, on 27 Jul 2023 - 05:27, said:

Wasn't BTCC a support race for British GP in the 80's or 90's ?

 

Yes. 1996 was the last BTCC support race at the British Grand Prix.

[sportyskells]

Well Lawson spun and caused a very big crash today in Motgeti which rightly brought the red flag out and everyone involved was ok

[Peat]

Looked like an iRacing crash! Cars tumbling everywhere!

[ANF]

Two cars were launched on Lawson's car, one into a beautiful corkscrew.

Edited by ANF, 20 August 2023 - 09:59.

[LolaB0860]

That's horrific

[FLB]

Holy crap.

[Grippy]

sportyskells, on 20 Aug 2023 - 07:27, said:

Well Lawson spun and caused a very big crash today in Motgeti which rightly brought the red flag out and everyone involved was ok

Thanks for confirming all were ok before I saw the vid.

[expert]

Liam taking some blame but claiming he was pushed off.  https://www.motorspo...-spin/10509483/

 

Sorry Liam, that was an extremely optimistic move in the first place, and from the footage Nojiri in fact still leave you enough space, you just ran wide.

Edited by expert, 20 August 2023 - 21:13.

[ANF]

He certainly wasn't given one car width of room, which is why he ended up on the unforgiving kerb which caused the bouncing and the spin. Onboard: https://youtu.be/Dw2D8qeGlH0?t=277

[Laster]

I’d say that was just unfortunate, Lawson was left about half a cars width, but never got more than half his car alongside so wasn’t really entitled to any room in the first place at least going by F1 rules & seeing as no penalty was given I’m guessing Superformula is similar in the regard. Running over a kerb should also usually be fine, but there it was clear the bumps on the kerb hitting the underside of the car unsettled it so much there was just no controlling it. I doubt either driver could have predicted that to be the end result of running over the kerb.

Edited by Laster, 21 August 2023 - 08:51.

[Risil]

Omg, just seen this. Don't really have any analysis to offer, but holy ****.

[midgrid]

Possibly the most "balletic" shunt I've seen, and the series has previous form as well!

 

[potmotr]

That's definitely not going to help his F1 aspirations...

[pacificquay]

potmotr, on 21 Aug 2023 - 09:40, said:

That's definitely not going to help his F1 aspirations...

 

I don't think it will make any difference to them whatsoever.

[potmotr]

pacificquay, on 21 Aug 2023 - 09:44, said:

I don't think it will make any difference to them whatsoever.

Isn't he under orders from Marko to win the championship if he wants to be promoted?

[Risil]

He's lost a lot of points to his championship rival as a result of the crash, so if his career hinges on winning the title this year it won't have helped.

 

Dr Marko was probably impressed by Lawson leaving his foot in as he was going round the outside though, so there's that.

[ANF]

I didn't understand how Makino could get launched into a corkscrew like that. But I now realise the contact with Lawson was a secondary impact: Makino had already run into the back of Sekiguchi (who had slowed for Lawson; it's very clear from Makino's onboard), and that first impact lifted the front of Makino's car (and made him lose his front wing and right front wheel). So it looks like it was the underside of Makino's nose, or even the floor on the car, that made contact Lawson's left rear wheel. Which makes the spectacular corkscrew less of a mystery.

[potmotr]

pacificquay, on 21 Aug 2023 - 09:44, said:

I don't think it will make any difference to them whatsoever.

Isn't he under orders from Marko to win the championship if he wants to be promoted?

[Whatisvalis]

He can still do it - should be a great decider weekend. If Marko doesn't give him a chance then it's something other than talent. 

[potmotr]

I certainly hope so, just saying this hasn't helped and looks like a pretty massive own goal by Lawson.  

[Beri]

Risil, on 21 Aug 2023 - 09:50, said:

He's lost a lot of points to his championship rival as a result of the crash, so if his career hinges on winning the title this year it won't have helped.

 

Dr Marko was probably impressed by Lawson leaving his foot in as he was going round the outside though, so there's that.

 

Or Mr Marko will hold Lawson accountable for that in not winning his title. Should he miss out on it.

[potmotr]

Beri, on 21 Aug 2023 - 13:12, said:

Or Mr Marko will hold Lawson accountable for that in not winning his title. Should he miss out on it.

 

He's already twice missed out on a AT seat, so I presume they very much like Lawson for his youth and marketability but perhaps they're not 100 percent sold quite yet. 

[balage06]

Having three victories in a SF season is special on its own, especially in a rookie season. I think that's the most anyone achieved in recent years, you have to go back to Lotterer and the Formula Nippon days to find a truly dominant performance. But he definitely made his finale significantly more stressful than it needed to be, now Nojiri is back in contention and both of them have to outscore Miyata to win, it will probably be an intense weekend.

[expert]

potmotr, on 21 Aug 2023 - 14:54, said:

He's already twice missed out on a AT seat, so I presume they very much like Lawson for his youth and marketability but perhaps they're not 100 percent sold quite yet. 

It seems behind the scenes he's well thought of at Red Bull (and by Marko) but hasn't put together the results on track (i.e. championships).  There is certainly the impression that he's just a placeholder option and that Redbull are still very open to someone who might be more of a stand out / brighter prospect for the future, and Lawson will ultimately miss out in the shuffle.  I said last year that he needed to win SF, the reason being to move into that stand out category himself.    As it stands he's very reliant on other people's performances not paning out.

 

Still, it wasn't a lack of pace that undid him here.  Still all to play for in the last round, pity it's, what, 2 months away?  Other decisions might have been made by then...

[potmotr]

expert, on 21 Aug 2023 - 21:21, said:

Still, it wasn't a lack of pace that undid him here.  Still all to play for in the last round, pity it's, what, 2 months away?  Other decisions might have been made by then...

 

I agree, and I'd very much like to see him in F1, but this was a really costly error in terms of the championship, and a little embarrassing too.

The series final double header is 9 weeks away, that's a long time, and presuming Perez isn't going anywhere, Ricciardo will likely lock down that AT seat.

[potmotr]

Spoke too soon!

[FLB]

Daniil Kvyat may test with Nakajima: Sorpresa Kvyat: possibili test in Super Formula a dicembre | FormulaPassion - Formule - Motorsport (in italiano)

[HistoryFan]

would like to see him at Super Formula. And 1-2 additional international drivers.

 

In other news: Kamui Kobayashi could retire from Super Formula what would be a shame...

 

There is also a big chance we won't see Ryo Hirakawa again because of his reserve role at McLaren.

Edited by HistoryFan, 14 October 2023 - 05:28.

[sportyskells]

Another big crash today this time at 130r in Suzuka (lucky this time Lawson not involved in this one). Also time is not on thier side as a catch fence needs replacing which maybe means half points as sunset is due over there.
Yep half points awarded for this race and as there are replays of the crash looks like the driver of the green car is ok (part of his car ended up near degner)

Edited by sportyskells, 28 October 2023 - 07:16.

[FirstnameLastname]

Looked like a very dangerous overtake attempt. Messy.

[chdphd]

Oof

[FirstnameLastname]

The first car essentially removed the barriers for the 2nd car

Lucky lads to not have ended a lot worse.

[sportyskells]

Sasahara will miss tomorrow race with concussion

[FLB]

Aftermath filmed by a spectator. How this isn't worse is a mystery to me.

 

[SophieB]

chdphd, on 28 Oct 2023 - 09:40, said:

Oof

I really hope he’s okay. The mad thing is that viewed in isolation, and if you didn’t know where it was happening, it somehow looks like it’s all happening at a relatively low speed until the actual impact.

[NickeyF1]

https://www.dailymot...m/video/x8p5y50 (Amateur video)

 

You can see the car almost clearing the barrier at Denger as well. 

[Myrvold]

NickeyF1, on 28 Oct 2023 - 15:14, said:

https://www.dailymot...m/video/x8p5y50 (Amateur video)

 

You can see the car almost clearing the barrier at Denger as well. 

 

Damn.

[Frood]

That's a frightening accident. Sasahara is a very lucky boy indeed.