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#1 thegamer23

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 08:35

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RACE START: 14.00 UK TIME
WHERE: MONZA
WHY: Crazy starting grid, gravel back in parabolica, Max & Lewis comeback, underdogs at the front

 

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It's the 2022 Italian Grand Prix, in one of the most iconic tracks in the Motorsport World: this year, revamped, with more gravel traps added in multiple corners & sausage kerbs removed in the chicanes.

It's a unique track in F1's calendar: given the fast nature of the track, all teams (except for Haas  :smoking:
 ) brings low downforce packages to maximize straightline speed. 
Speeds of 350 km/h can be achieved using slipstreams, but as a result of the low downforce setup, corners become super tricky.

Car floats between the chicanes, making it hard for the drivers: it's essential to mantain a netural car balance even with the low downforce wings, in order to perform in the more technical sectors while being fast on the straights.

 

Decades of racing history, hundreds of drivers races these roads: lots found death here, others found eternal glory between the historic banked corners & the ultra fast sections.

 

 

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Track was active since 1922, making it one of the oldest venues in the worlds of Motorsport.

From 1955 till the end of 60's, the banked section was used.

It was scary, with steep gradients, making it also attractive for the american drivers of Indianapolis.

 

In 1957 & 1958, the Monzanapolis was held there.

A 500 Miles Race, the italian version of the Indy 500: just two editions, but it was legendary, and plenty of drivers from all over the world came racing the banked corners.

 

 

 

 

 

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NOWDAYS

 

 

Yesterday, it was a bonkers qualifying session, with all the Grid Penalty drama thing going on (not a fan!) & a close battle between Charles Leclerc & Max Verstappen for pole position.

In the end, it was the local idol Leclerc who got pole: the man in yellow wants to celebrate the Scuderia's 75 years of racing with another win on home soil.

About that quali showdown, let's see a good lap comparison between those two.

 

 

 

 

George Russel will start P2 for Mercedes, Carlos Sainz got 3rd on track, but he's one of those guys struck with massive penalties for components change. 
Because of that, the two McLarens of Lando Norris and, back from the undead, Daniel Ricciardo will start respectively 3rd & 4th.

 

Pierre Gasly wants another maiden win in Monza, he'll start P5 ahead of Fernando Alonso's alpine.

Max Verstappen will start P7, penalized by 5 positions for components change: he'll start right ahead of Nyck The Quick, De Vries of Williams, replacing ill Albon!

 

 

 

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Zhou Guanyu will start P9 for Alfa Romeo, ahead of the GOAT himself, Nicholas Latifi, fighting for his seat and his career today.
Big names at the back: Perez will start P13 for Red Bull, Carlos Sainz will start P18 for Ferrari & Sir Lewis Hamilton P19 for Mercedes.

 

The english legend will do his best to comeback from the last row & try to get a win, in memory of Queen Elizabeth, who sadly passed away this week. 
Condolences to all the UK friends here, but let's enjoy a day of racing together!

Will we hear the english anthem today?


 

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FINAL STARTING GRID

 

Here it is the final starting grid for the 2022 Monza Grand Prix.

Pretty mixed up, plenty of potential for a fun race. Who's your pick??

 

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Tyre selection: given the high temperatures, we can expect red tyres to be used for the start of the race, than switching to yellow or even white for very long stints.

Race is one of the shortest of the season: the less pits, the better!

 

 

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Who's going to take the 2022 Italian Grand Prix?
One of the most prestigious races of the year. Will it be another Max Verstappen masterclass?

Or can the local hero Leclerc take the win in front of the home crowd, after a serie of difficult races?
Imagine the scenes!

Or is it's going to be a day for the underdogs? Norris, Ricciardo, Gasly...who knows.

All to play for in Monza. 
Let's race!

 

 

 

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#2 jpm2019

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 08:48

Monza is always crazy. Race directors very happy to trow red flags for example. No prediction possible except ferrari will screw it. 



#3 Beri

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 09:02

Gravel back in which corner? 😉

Anywho, this race could be one of the surprises of the year. I did bet on Russell. Albeit I fear Verstappen will win. But I do actually wish for a Ferrari victory.

#4 Roadhouse

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 09:05

That's such a good shot of the Ferrari's, really love the yellow text on the rear wing, hope they keep that.

 

With Max on an imho sub-optimal setup and the Ferrari engines turned up to 11 this could very well become Russell's maiden win.



#5 TomNokoe

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 09:18

If Leclerc has a bad start this could get very interesting

#6 MJB5990

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 09:20

Will Max finally make the podium in Monza?

#7 Disgrace

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 09:22

I guess if Ferrari blunder yet another race, they can claim they did it in respect to the Queen.



#8 TomNokoe

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 09:24

Also have my eye on Tsunoda who has been lightning all weekend

#9 Mechanic44

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 09:28

Max to win, Charles’s engine to blow up, George podium and Lewis to struggle to get points or end up with damage on lap one.

#10 Ali_G

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 09:31

Max running more DF to counter tyre wear looks like madness to me. If he has reliability, Charles should win this race.

#11 thefinalapex

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 09:34

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#12 Gareth

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 09:37

Max running more DF to counter tyre wear looks like madness to me. If he has reliability, Charles should win this race.

Agreed, although I guess RB might be the one team that actually gets a fair bit of benefit from the DRS, as the only car with some D to R.

I’m excited to see what strategy Ferrari run to throw this one away …

For Hamilton and Sainz I think I would go for starting on M and hope for an SC after the S runners have pitted.

#13 mjjTT

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 09:40

Hopefully the Italian football hooligans stay away today.



#14 sheSgoTthElooK

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 09:40

What a beautiful opener !!!
The picture gives post-race vibes…

I have my fingers crossed for 6,5 drivers but focus lies on Ferrari. I love Italy 💚

Edited by sheSgoTthElooK, 11 September 2022 - 09:41.


#15 Ali_G

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 09:40

Agreed, although I guess RB might be the one team that actually gets a fair bit of benefit from the DRS, as the only car with some D to R.

I’m excited to see what strategy Ferrari run to throw this one away …

For Hamilton and Sainz I think I would go for starting on M and hope for an SC after the S runners have pitted.


Agree that the DRS will be more powerful for them with the added benefit of having a bit more DF in the turns.

That’ll benefit Max in getting through most of the field. I don’t think he’ll get near Charles though. Max - George fight may be interesting though.

#16 Ali_G

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 09:41

Hopefully the Italian football hooligans stay away today.


Say what?

#17 Arundo

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 09:42

Say what?


They did not had nice words about Max his mother yesterday.

#18 dia6olo

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 10:10

If Leclerc has a bad start this could get very interesting

I doubt it, he could lose two places in the first corner and probably still be back in front within a lap or two, that's how much quicker his pace is or at least was in quali to the cars behind him....



#19 milestone 11

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 10:11

PSC continuing the theme of the day.

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#20 SenorSjon

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 10:37

Verstappen had a very good race sim in FP, but I doubt they can clear cars that easily with so much DF. The following straight, those cars will zoom past again.

#21 IrvTheSwerve

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 10:40

Leclerc to have a good start and leads by 15 seconds on lap 23, bins it in Ascari while comfortably leading in front of the Tifosi in extreme embarrassment. Cue "ARRRRGHHHHHH I am stupid" over the radio...allowing Russell to take his first win as a British driver for a British-based team in honour of the Queen. Lovely stuff.



#22 jonpollak

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 10:45

Bel lavoro Gamer ventitré. !!!
Spero in un ritorno a Monzanapolis un giorno presto !!
Jp

#23 w1Y

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 10:47

Verstappwn to be behind le clerc within 15 laps. Max to win the race through strategy and also just better race pace.

#24 Goron3

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 10:49

Oh god it's just occurred to me that Crofty will probably come out with a King Charles reference if he wins today.

#25 danmills

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 10:55

I really hope Leclerc does it today. If not, Norris or Ricciardo for sheer wtfness.

George surely looking a good bet today too.

#26 IrvTheSwerve

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 10:57

Oh god it's just occurred to me that Crofty will probably come out with a King Charles reference if he wins today.

“HE MIGHT NOT BE THE KING OF GREAT BRITAIN, BUT GEORGE RUSSELL IS THE KING OF MONZA TODAY!!!”

 

Ergh, a bit of sick came up just typing that. I’d assume that even Crofty isn’t stupid enough to go there.



#27 Goron3

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:02

“HE MIGHT NOT BE THE KING OF GREAT BRITAIN, BUT GEORGE RUSSELL IS THE KING OF MONZA TODAY!!!”

Ergh, a bit of sick came up just typing that. I’d assume that even Crofty isn’t stupid enough to go there.


I read that in his voice and...oh lord. Please no.

#28 TomNokoe

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:03

Ready for some ACTION at T1

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Edited by TomNokoe, 11 September 2022 - 11:04.


#29 Jovanotti

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:04

Go Charles :up: :up:

#30 TomNokoe

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:05

“HE MIGHT NOT BE THE KING OF GREAT BRITAIN, BUT GEORGE RUSSELL IS THE KING OF MONZA TODAY!!!”

Ergh, a bit of sick came up just typing that. I’d assume that even Crofty isn’t stupid enough to go there.


"As Charles The Third ascends the throne in London, it's George The First in Monza today!"

#31 thegamer23

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:07

Ready for some ACTION at T1

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Awesome!

I attended Monza from 2014 to 2018, hoping for a Ferrari win.

But got Mercedes domination instead.

 

Obviously Ferrari win came in 2019  :lol:

 

Enjoy it!   :up:  :up:  :up:  


Edited by thegamer23, 11 September 2022 - 11:10.


#32 NewYorkF1

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:07

Race pace of the Red Bull might be a bit quicker. But can't imagine Max getting trough the field as easy as he did in Spa, and if he doesn't we should have created a big enough gap. Bar any Safety Cars or technical failures, we should have this in the pocket (famous last words....). 



#33 thegamer23

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:11

Mwoah

 

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#34 TomNokoe

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:14

LH missing from the drivers parade curiously, although George was hitching a lift with Gasly so maybe something was wrong with the Merc cars

Huh apparently he was there idk

Edited by TomNokoe, 11 September 2022 - 11:16.


#35 Beri

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:18

Ready for some ACTION at T1

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Awesome spots those are. Been on that Grand Stand before as well. Have fun.

 

One thing to add; looking at turn 1 does make me miss the old double chicane configuration in turn 1. Its no challenge that corner. Only making sure youll make it and then all the fun is out of it. The old double chicane added some necessity for drivers skill to manoeuvre it quickly.



#36 Atreiu

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:19

I have no idea what to expect, which I guess is a good thing.

#37 Goron3

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:25

I hope everyone is prepared for track limits at T4. With a huge tarmac run off there, I fully expect drivers forcing each other off.

RaceFans reporting that Wheatley is in discussions with the FIA as RB believe Max should be P4.

#38 dia6olo

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:28

Leclerc to have a good start and leads by 15 seconds on lap 23, bins it in Ascari while comfortably leading in front of the Tifosi in extreme embarrassment. Cue "ARRRRGHHHHHH I am stupid" over the radio...allowing Russell to take his first win as a British driver for a British-based team in honour of the Queen. Lovely stuff.

Russell would do well to make the podium even if Leclerc bails out of the race, there are plenty faster cars behind Russell...


Edited by dia6olo, 11 September 2022 - 12:10.


#39 Risil

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:28

"As Charles The Third ascends the throne in London, it's George The First in Monza today!"


Oh NO

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#40 Risil

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:30

What time is lights out?

#41 SophieB

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:30

What time is lights out?

1400 UK time.

 

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#42 Goron3

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:31

What time is lights out?


90 minutes from now.

#43 yolo

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:31

Awesome!

I attended Monza from 2014 to 2018, hoping for a Ferrari win.

But got Mercedes domination instead.

 

Obviously Ferrari win came in 2019  :lol:

 

Enjoy it!   :up:  :up:  :up:  

 

2018 wasn't a Merc domination. Ferrari had a front row lockout  :drunk:



#44 Vesuvius

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:34

Good to see Kimi back in the paddock, lets see if he will be in the Ferrari or Alfa's pit. At least yesterday he was with his friend Gino Rosato, so he could be with Ferrari.

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:35

Verstappen had a very good race sim in FP, but I doubt they can clear cars that easily with so much DF. The following straight, those cars will zoom past again.

 

Yep that run up to the second chicane will be tricky as he won't have DRS on that one. Ferrari have 6-7km/h more down that straight. With that said, it's only really Ferrari that's the issue as they've found considerably pace this weekend. 


Edited by ARTGP, 11 September 2022 - 11:36.


#46 ANF

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:36

Pit stop time loss last year was roughly 23.8–24.5s on average, ranging from 22.9s to 25.7s. Not many non-SC stops were made though.


Edited by ANF, 11 September 2022 - 11:37.


#47 JimmyClark

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:38

Lovely day here at the track. Took two and a half hours to get in, but that's in line with what I expect now.

Torn between wanting a Ferrari win on their own soil, or a British win for George or Lando.

Btw George's parade car got beached in the gravel.

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:38

2018 wasn't a Merc domination. Ferrari had a front row lockout :drunk:


I think he meant domination of the event, rather than each individual race.

#49 Augurk

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:39

"As Charles The Third ascends the throne in London, it's George The First in Monza today!"


What will his cry be when Charles wins?

#50 Mosrite

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 11:39

I wouldn't be surprised again by Red Bull's pace, I wouldn't be surprised if he was leading after 10 laps but I do hope Leclerc does it today, again, I will not be surprised if he doesn't. I just hope it's a little more exciting and that Ferrari hold on the lead for a little bit longer. I don't see Max not being on the podium today.
And I totally expect Crofty to be making King Charles references