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#1 Anja

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Posted 27 January 2023 - 09:55

No team principal for Alfa Romeo this year - instead they'll have a "team representative", whatever that means, in Alessandro Alunni Bravi.

 

 

 

Alfa Romeo have confirmed that Alessandro Alunni Bravi, already a Managing Director of the Sauber Group, will also occupy the role of Team Representative in 2023.

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The team confirmed that Alunni Bravi will be "representing the team in all official functions at race weekends and away from the track".

This means that Alunni Bravi will likely assume at least some of the typical race weekend duties normally carried out by team principals, most noticeably the media sessions.

 

https://racingnews36...-team-principal

 

 

 

In another team news, Orlen is gone and Stake is the new title sponsor: 

 

 

Alfa Romeo have confirmed a new title partner with 'lifestyle' brand Stake, with the team changing its title to the Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake for 2023.

The Swiss-based team have announced the new 'multi-year' partnership with Stake ahead of the 2023 season.

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Stake's main presence is as a growing betting and online gaming website, with their sponsorship portfolio including Everton football club in recent years.

 

https://racingnews36...d-title-partner



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#2 Beri

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Posted 27 January 2023 - 10:10

So, a lot at stake for Sauber this year! 

 

Ok, Ill grab my coat myself.

 

I do wonder how this transition period of Sauber will be. This is the last year with Alfa Romeo, next year it will likely be plain Sauber again. But the transition to Audi will commence already, I assume. Key people moving in, car development moving perhaps in a different direction, budgets being upscaled by Audi to have a solid team running by 2026. It will be very interesting to see how this all will work out. We have never had a 4 year period, from last season onwards, where a manufacturer said "were coming in" and they got said 4 years of preparation to get the team up to speed. BMW was 3 years and so was Toyota.



#3 BRG

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Posted 27 January 2023 - 11:39

 

In another team news, Orlen is gone and Stake is the new title sponsor: 

So no more Kubica?

 

So, a lot at stake for Sauber this year! 

 

Ok, Ill grab my coat myself.

 

I do wonder how this transition period of Sauber will be. This is the last year with Alfa Romeo, next year it will likely be plain Sauber again. But the transition to Audi will commence already, I assume. Key people moving in, car development moving perhaps in a different direction, budgets being upscaled by Audi to have a solid team running by 2026. It will be very interesting to see how this all will work out. We have never had a 4 year period, from last season onwards, where a manufacturer said "were coming in" and they got said 4 years of preparation to get the team up to speed. BMW was 3 years and so was Toyota.

As Audi are effectively taking over a well established team, it isn't really the same as , say Toyota, starting from scratch.  This is like Mercedes morphing out of Tyrrell/BAR/Honda/Brawn.  All Audi have to concentrate upon is developing their engine.  Sauber will do the chassis.



#4 Beri

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Posted 27 January 2023 - 11:44

As Audi are effectively taking over a well established team, it isn't really the same as , say Toyota, starting from scratch.  This is like Mercedes morphing out of Tyrrell/BAR/Honda/Brawn.  All Audi have to concentrate upon is developing their engine.  Sauber will do the chassis.

 

Well, yes. But it will be a fully pledged Audi team. So it is only plain logic that Audi do want to have the best team available to them. So Sauber will be strengthened if they do think they need it and the coming years are perfect for them to mould Sauber into the Audi team they want it to be. Including a superstar driver and a talented rookie or youngster, is my educated guess. Norris and Pourchaire? Who knows?



#5 Anja

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Posted 27 January 2023 - 12:24

So no more Kubica?

 

Definitely not here. Orlen is going to sponsor Alpha Tauri but Kubica should finally put all his focus on endurance racing. 



#6 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 27 January 2023 - 12:25

Will the team be constructed as Audi from 2026, or Sauber Audi?

Edited by ConsiderAndGo, 27 January 2023 - 12:25.


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Posted 30 January 2023 - 08:54

I thought they already did this.

 

https://www.autospor...entry/10426111/


Edited by owenmahamilton, 30 January 2023 - 08:54.


#8 cbbcisace

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Posted 30 January 2023 - 09:02

I thought they already did this.

https://www.autospor...entry/10426111/


I believe they are buying 25% every year for 20323/2024 and 2025

#9 Mohican

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Posted 30 January 2023 - 09:41

So previous 100% owner still holds majority; obviously important for Alfa Romeo.

#10 BRG

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Posted 30 January 2023 - 10:19

So previous 100% owner still holds majority; obviously important for Alfa Romeo.

Alfa Romeo are just a sponsor, they have no ownership stake.  And they are gone after this year.



#11 Mohican

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Posted 30 January 2023 - 10:50

Alfa Romeo are just a sponsor, they have no ownership stake. And they are gone after this year.


Important for Alfa Romeo, and for Ferrari…

#12 Sterzo

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Posted 30 January 2023 - 15:51

Alfa Romeo are just a sponsor, they have no ownership stake.  And they are gone after this year.

Indeed, and most years they didn't even fund enough paint to cover the whole car. Half the followers of racing still called it Sauber, and the excitement generated on an Alfa forum didn't quite rise to anyone posting about it after the initial announcement.



#13 Mohican

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Posted 30 January 2023 - 17:59

My point being that regardless of Alfa Romeo, the car will use a Ferrari engine for another three years - so it is important for Sauber to get along with Ferrari during that period.

#14 BRG

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Posted 31 January 2023 - 10:37

Definitely true, but Ferrari isn't connected to Alfa Romeo which is part of Stellantis now.  



#15 AlexS

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Posted 31 January 2023 - 22:07

Definitely true, but Ferrari isn't connected to Alfa Romeo which is part of Stellantis now.  

But are connected trough Agnelli family interests.



#16 BRG

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Posted 01 February 2023 - 10:24

But are connected trough Agnelli family interests.

We are all connected though.

 

Six Degrees of Separation



#17 IrvTheSwerve

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:04

 

Live launch.



#18 Alexis*27

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:08

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Leaked in the background of the video!


Edited by Alexis*27, 07 February 2023 - 09:11.


#19 Alexis*27

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:14

Proper photo

 

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#20 IrvTheSwerve

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:14

Looks pretty good. A lot of black. Looks like unpainted carbon fibre?



#21 Redaxo

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:14

And another car with the absolute minimum of paint in order so save weight. I hate this development.



#22 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:14

That is one sexy looking car!



#23 Alexis*27

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:15

Looks like a 23 car too



#24 Cliff

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:16

Sexy! Although from the front angle I'm a bit worried it looks too much like a Ferrari.



#25 Ali623

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:16

Yeah they need to do something about paint rules, every car is just gonna end up 80% exposed carbon by the start of the season. Now liveries are being designed around it  :well:



#26 Beri

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:16

Oh dear that livery does not look pretty at all. Tho it looks like a 2023 car......



#27 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:17

The floor edge is absolutely bonkers lol

Edited by ConsiderAndGo, 07 February 2023 - 09:21.


#28 Anja

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:18

The floor edge is abslutely bonkers lol

 

It didn't take long for these convoluted aero monstrosities to return...


Edited by Anja, 07 February 2023 - 09:18.


#29 Peat

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:26

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#30 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:28

The cannon exits pointing down toward the the beam wing is clever.



#31 Peat

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:28

Yeah they need to do something about paint rules, every car is just gonna end up 80% exposed carbon by the start of the season. Now liveries are being designed around it  :well:

 

'paint rules' now???? Talk about micro-management. 



#32 Alexis*27

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:37

Are they running one car with Stake and the other with Kick?

#33 Massa

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:39

Yeah they need to do something about paint rules, every car is just gonna end up 80% exposed carbon by the start of the season. Now liveries are being designed around it :well:



F1 fans complain about anything nowadays.

#34 JRodrigues

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:39

Are they running one car with Stake and the other with Kick?

 

Kick where Stake is not permitted.

 

Fn5UbsBXgAEivV3.jpg

 

In countries where advertisement of gambling and sports betting is disallowed,@Stakewill be replaced by@KickStreaming- both in the@alfaromeoorlenteam name and logo. Where both Stake and Kick are disallowed, just the Alfa Romeo F1 Team logo will be featured.

 

https://twitter.com/...826467214004233

 


Edited by JRodrigues, 07 February 2023 - 09:56.


#35 JimmyClark

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:44

And another car with the absolute minimum of paint in order so save weight. I hate this development.


Yep I think most cars are going to be like this unfortunately.

Great to see something that looks technically different though.

#36 JimmyClark

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:50

Proper photo

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From this angle, I'll call it "The Black Widow"

#37 Beri

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:52

The black and red just dont work out for me. That set aside; I thought I beam roll hoops were forbidden?



#38 Jovanotti

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:53

Beautiful car imo :up:

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:57

Yeah they need to do something about paint rules, every car is just gonna end up 80% exposed carbon by the start of the season. Now liveries are being designed around it  :well:

It's not even paint anymore, it's just vinyl stickers on the bare carbon, its lighter and easier to apply or replace.

 

You can see it in one of McLaren's recent videos where they talk about the vinyl.


Edited by jensfan09, 07 February 2023 - 09:57.


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#40 Alex79

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:58

hmm, nice. if the superleague formula were still around it could have been the car entered by Almere City FC, same red and black home kit

#41 lewislorenzo

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:58

Looks good

#42 JimmyClark

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 10:01

hmm, nice. if the superleague formula were still around it could have been the car entered by Almere City FC, same red and black home kit


It does look quite like the Milan car...

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#43 danmills

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 10:05

It's a nice looking car. Good job!

#44 Laster

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 10:27

An actual car reveal from someone! Yay for Alfa, and that serrated floor edge definitely draws the eye.

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 10:50

Closer look on the floor edge. Lots of detailed pictures on AMuS

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#46 Beri

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 10:55

I wonder when the first team will come to implement color pigment in their carbon fibre.



#47 Burai

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 10:59

I quite like it. It's almost like the Alfa branding is peeling off, revealing the original Sauber black underneath.



#48 Timstr11

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 11:10

That floor edge looks quite radical. It's an array of vortex generators.

Edit: It's a computer render so let's see if this makes it onto the real car.

https://pbs.twimg.co...=jpg&name=large


Edited by Timstr11, 07 February 2023 - 11:18.


#49 Beri

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 11:17

Its the first 2023 car that has been shown properly and we are already going wild over the floor edges which do not look too radical to my taste. Imagine what will happen when the other teams will actually reveal their true 2023 challengers.



#50 Mohican

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Posted 07 February 2023 - 11:36

Notice the “Sauber” logo on airbox and front wing ? Were not there last year - preparing the future ?