You can never say never, it’s all about the ROI… there is no real racer team owner/boss now…I continue to be baffled by your certainty that F1 teams will be interested in entering A1GP, when the series hasn't even been officially launched yet!
But what little we do know so far is that this will be a single spec series. As such, it is extremely unlikely that an F1 team will ever leave a series in which designing and building the car is an integral part of the series' DNA, to join a series where they'd be racing a single-spec, off-the-shelf chassis, likely with spec engines. I mean, for goodness' sake, Red Bull is spending millions to have their own engine facility at their factory. Why on earth would they go from doing that to entering a completely different series, with a completely different ethos, in the space of a couple of years?
I can't say this firmly enough, but this is not and never will be an alternative or rival to F1. It may well become another cool racing series to enjoy - maybe some of us on this forum will come to prefer watching it to F1. But believe that leading F1 teams are suddenly going to jump ship and enter this is just ludicrous, and as far removed from reality as you can possibly get.
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Posted 19 July 2023 - 21:13
You can never say never, it’s all about the ROI… there is no real racer team owner/boss now…
Wolff, Horner & Marko, Brown, Stroll.
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Posted 20 July 2023 - 03:24
While they didn't leave F1, McLaren is most certainly competing in a spec series.
As i remember in previous A1GP there was no mention about teams, which run national entry, so for McLaren or RedBull teams there no interest, like McLaren have at Indycar or FE.
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Posted 20 July 2023 - 11:01
I was meaning it, more in the context of (Frank) Williams, (Bruce) McLaren etc...
Wolff, Horner & Marko, Brown, Stroll.
But they only go racing because of the ROI it returns, the minute it stopped on the ROI they would drop it like a hot potato, IMO.
Edited by GrumpyYoungMan, 20 July 2023 - 11:22.
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Posted 20 July 2023 - 12:13
I was meaning it, more in the context of (Frank) Williams, (Bruce) McLaren etc...
But they only go racing because of the ROI it returns, the minute it stopped on the ROI they would drop it like a hot potato, IMO.
Wolff, Horner, Marko, and Brown, all put money INTO racing. They are racers. Go on, tell me Marko, who made it to F1 before losing an eye, Horner who was British F3 class B champion, Brown who raced in FF and all sorts, Wolff who paid to race in GT - tell me they aren't racers. As for Stroll, he made his fortune in the clothing business, then turned away from that to use his wealth for what he enjoyed - cars and racing. You really think Aston Martin gives a bigger return than Tommy Hilfiger and Ralph Laurent? You really think his rescue of Mont Tremblant made him a fortune? Or that he's raking it in by funding his son's drive?
There's plenty to disagree with, but let's not be lured into making up stuff about people's motivations, when the evidence is the opposite.
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Oh dear. Unique selling point, space completely captured, resonate with the man on the street, appealed to our investment group. Where can I re-find the will to live?
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Posted 25 August 2023 - 10:50
What a wonderful coincidence that the man on the street's interests are aligned with the interests of Chinese billionaires!
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Posted 25 August 2023 - 10:59
The engine-audiophiles are not served in single seaters.
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Posted 19 April 2024 - 14:35
Random thread bump really just because I wondered if anything new was happening with this and I can't seem to find any reports of developments beyond those initial May 2023 articles.
At the time it said the plan was to target a December 2024 launch, so not like a target has been missed exactly... but the silence is not at all encouraging for their prospects.
Edited by Ben1445, 19 April 2024 - 14:53.
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Posted 19 April 2024 - 14:39
Not encouraging? Does anyone actually want this back?
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Posted 19 April 2024 - 15:38
Random thread bump really just because I wondered if anything new was happening with this and I can't seem to find any reports of developments beyond those initial May 2023 articles.
At the time it said the plan was to target a December 2024 launch, so not like a target has been missed exactly... but the silence is not at all encouraging for their prospects.
I would like to see something like this again, but I think the structure is all wrong. The novelty of a series such as this goes away if an entity tries to operate it as a normal series from year to year. I think the original series set up confirms this. If they actually operated it as an Olympics of Motorsport where the series runs 9 races over a "season" every 3 or 4 years, it would be a showcase. What formula would they would use? I don't know but I can envision a formula that changes every "season": one season its N/A's, one season its hybrids, one season its full electric. That already covers a decade's worth of events.
EDIT: You could even "un-retire" whole classes of cars and BoP them or for example use a field Gen 2 FE cars.
Edited by Secretariat, 19 April 2024 - 15:53.
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Posted 19 April 2024 - 18:15
Not encouraging? Does anyone actually want this back?
Yes. There's room for a 2nd international single seater series. It might spell the end of Formula E but there's room.
Especially with the mistakes Formula 1 is insistent on making. Like doubling down on the 2014 hybrid rules that nobody likes. And moving off historic tracks. Just imagine how fresh a normally sized and sounding singe seater racing series would feel right now ? A1 was redundant in 2006. But it isn't redundant now.
There's no way they will make a December 2024 start and the silence is concerning.
Edited by Sauberfan, 19 April 2024 - 19:37.
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Posted 19 April 2024 - 18:30
Not encouraging? Does anyone actually want this back?
Are you kidding?!?!!?
You should have been to those wild watch parties we had for it.
Paula was laughing like a hysterical hyena when sith punched Sean.
Gosh I miss the Camel in Victoria
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Posted 19 April 2024 - 21:57
Are you kidding?!?!!?
You should have been to those wild watch parties we had for it.
Paula was laughing like a hysterical hyena when sith punched Sean.
Gosh I miss the Camel in Victoria
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A little. I went to the Portimao round with my dad, and even met Marco Andretti in the pits. It was a great day out but then that’s truer of low level series generally.
But the writing was definitely on the wall for the whole concept.
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