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[ANF]

Looked like VeeKay actually race over the bumps!

[red stick]

Disgrace, on 02 Jun 2023 - 19:42, said:

On the inside of turn eight is a giant derelict office block with "for lease" written on it. Looks sad.

If there's only one that visible we can start the Detroit Comeback stories.

[red stick]

ANF, on 02 Jun 2023 - 19:48, said:

Looked like VeeKay actually race over the bumps!

It's fun until you bounce Palou, Tigger-style.

[prommer]

red stick, on 02 Jun 2023 - 19:45, said:

Ah, the Bat Signal for Jp. I see what you're doing there.

 

Yes, but what use is he without the benefit of pictures? 

[ANF]

Pato's car looks driveable too.

[Disgrace]

Not sure the feedback will be that positive, Leigh...

[loki]

Disgrace, on 02 Jun 2023 - 19:42, said:

On the inside of turn eight is a giant derelict office block with "for lease" written on it. Looks sad.

 

 

red stick, on 02 Jun 2023 - 19:48, said:

If there's only one that visible we can start the Detroit Comeback stories.

 

The revitalization is a few blocks north around the Rocket Mortgage HQ.  Greektown and the area around the stadiums have been gentrified as well.

[ezequiel]

This circuit has shitshow potential come Sunday, a bit a la Nashville

[prommer]

ezequiel, on 02 Jun 2023 - 19:57, said:

This circuit has shitshow potential come Sunday, a bit a la Nashville

 

Yep, I have to agree.

 

I just can't believe someone in charge actually watched Nashville and said, "Hey, we need some of that here!!"

[ANF]

ScottyMac in the Max Chilton livery.

[Disgrace]

prommer, on 02 Jun 2023 - 19:59, said:

Yep, I have to agree.

 

I just can't believe someone in charge actually watched Nashville and said, "Hey, we need some of that here!!"

 

The design brief was either that or "you know Barber, let's create the exact opposite."

[red stick]

ANF, on 02 Jun 2023 - 19:59, said:

ScottyMac in the Max Chilton livery.

The Reigate Reprise?
The Christchurch Copy?

[ANF]

Maybe... show some cars on track, NBC?

[Risil]

Muppetmad, on 02 Jun 2023 - 19:39, said:

If you asked ChatGPT to design a street circuit in Detroit, this is what I imagine it'd look like. Hopefully it'll produce some good racing come Sunday though.

I actually did while trying to get the ASCII map together. It produced a circle. D minus!

[red stick]

Palou flying.
Not in a good way.

[ANF]

So how soon can they go back to Belle Isle?

[Ben1445]

It’s like a bland version of Formula E’s London ExCeL venue

[juicy sushi]

This was ugly back in the 1980s, and has not aesthetically improved.  I am sure that GM is very happy with the enormous, central view of the Ren Centre, but I must be honest, this is not a good replacement for Belle Isle from the TV viewer perspective.  I realize that modern Indycar in many ways channels the best of 1986-87-era F1, but this is not one of the moments that they should have embraced.

[Disgrace]

This race is going to be such a clusterfudge.

[Stephane]

Roads haven't been repaved since the 80's it seems

[Afterburner]

LOL apparently some of the teams are expecting so much yellow that they can get to the end on one pit stop?

[loki]

juicy sushi, on 02 Jun 2023 - 20:19, said:

This was ugly back in the 1980s, and has not aesthetically improved.  I am sure that GM is very happy with the enormous, central view of the Ren Centre, but I must be honest, this is not a good replacement for Belle Isle from the TV viewer perspective.  I realize that modern Indycar in many ways channels the best of 1986-87-era F1, but this is not one of the moments that they should have embraced.

Some of that has to do with want they could close for a weekend and having it at the base of the Ren Center.  Even the new buildings in that area are fairly bland.  It’s the epitome of old industrial downtown America.  There are more scenic places downtown but I doubt they could be race friendly.  Or even welcoming to the disruption.

[Afterburner]

Disgrace, on 02 Jun 2023 - 19:42, said:

On the inside of turn eight is a giant derelict office block with "for lease" written on it. Looks sad.

I was there four weeks ago. Copy/paste this for several blocks and you should have a suitable mental image of Detroit.

 

Admittedly it looks better than it did when I last visited in 2016.

[PayasYouRace]

loki, on 02 Jun 2023 - 20:28, said:

Some of that has to do with want they could close for a weekend and having it at the base of the Ren Center.  Even the new buildings in that area are fairly bland.  It’s the epitome of old industrial downtown America.  There are more scenic places downtown but I doubt they could be race friendly.  Or even welcoming to the disruption.

If only there was a lovely island in the river that could host the race that’s just a few minutes away.

[ANF]

That pit exit... It looks like cars that exit the pits will turn left for T1 and cross the path of fast cars that have already got on the brakes and can't change direction.

Edited by ANF, 02 June 2023 - 20:34.

[PayasYouRace]

It’s the Korean Grand Prix pit exit, basically.

[ANF]

Indy NXT qualifying will be fun in 55 minutes.

[loki]

Afterburner, on 02 Jun 2023 - 20:29, said:

I was there four weeks ago. Copy/paste this for several blocks and you should have a suitable mental image of Detroit.

 

Admittedly it looks better than it did when I last visited in 2016.

 

They've stopped the bleeding but the patient is still in critical condition.  Some of the older urban neighborhoods while having many if not most of the abandoned houses torn down are still fairly dystopian looking.  Some blocks that had 20 homes now have 4 homes and 16 empty lots.  At least most of the vacant lots are covered in grass.  Meanwhile out in the ‘burbs all is normal.

[prommer]

PayasYouRace, on 02 Jun 2023 - 20:32, said:

If only there was a lovely island in the river that could host the race that’s just a few minutes away.

 

With a pleasant sparkling fountain for the drivers to jump into afterwards, too!

[ArchieTech]

I expect qualifying to be tricky with all the potential for yellow and red flags. Just stay out all the time and keep trying to get a clear lap I suppose, definitely no abandoning of laps just keep going. Probably a lot of drivers losing their times for causing a yellow or red flag too.

[loki]

PayasYouRace, on 02 Jun 2023 - 20:32, said:

If only there was a lovely island in the river that could host the race that’s just a few minutes away.

The people with the money don’t want that.  They’re promoting an area not so much a race.  Could be that it’s this or nothing.  Parts of the track were open for free today, including grandstands 1 and 9 with all of the grandstands GA.   Doesn’t look like it worked for today.  With Sun reported sold out in addition to all the hospitality areas it’s appearing it’s as much an exercise in activation more than a public event.

[juicy sushi]

loki, on 02 Jun 2023 - 20:28, said:

Some of that has to do with want they could close for a weekend and having it at the base of the Ren Center.  Even the new buildings in that area are fairly bland.  It’s the epitome of old industrial downtown America.  There are more scenic places downtown but I doubt they could be race friendly.  Or even welcoming to the disruption.

I get that, but the fact remains, Belle Isle was a decent location, and looked much better than this, even if it wasn't "Detroit" with the full corporate look in the background.  I am not sure why Penske and others were so eager to do this when it does not seem like an upgrade from a product perspective.

[Montie]

I wonder if anybody else got this problem. I have a subscription to live stream from the website, but I often get this problem, where the live stream suddenly stops. If I restart the live stream it play back the last 10 sec or so, just to stop again at the same place.
If Ikeep restarting, at some point the live stream restarts from the beginning of the season, fast forward and it still stops at the same place.

[juicy sushi]

loki, on 02 Jun 2023 - 20:41, said:

The people with the money don’t want that.  They’re promoting an area not so much a race.  Could be that it’s this or nothing.  Parts of the track were open for free today, including grandstands 1 and 9 with all of the grandstands GA.   Doesn’t look like it worked for today.  With Sun reported sold out in addition to all the hospitality areas it’s appearing it’s as much an exercise in activation more than a public event.

Well, fair enough, but I think their logic is poor and it's not got a lot of business sense behind it.  Also, after an Indy 500 that delivered on the entertainment/spectacle front, this is a terrible follow-up.

[ANF]

Montie, on 02 Jun 2023 - 20:47, said:

I wonder if anybody else got this problem. I have a subscription to live stream from the website, but I often get this problem, where the live stream suddenly stops. If I restart the live stream it play back the last 10 sec or so, just to stop again at the same place.
If Ikeep restarting, at some point the live stream restarts from the beginning of the season, fast forward and it still stops at the same place.

I didn't have that exact problem, but I repeatedly had a similar problem during the Indy 500 practice sessions: All of a sudden the stream would stop, then jump back say 20 seconds, then play for 30 seconds, then stop and jump back 20, then play for 30, etc. etc... I think this only happened when I was (chrome)casting to my TV but I'm not sure. Eventually, if I was lucky, the stream would make a bigger jump back, about two minutes or so, and after that it would play normally again for the rest of the session as long as I kept that delay.

 

I guess we should report these bugs...

Edited by ANF, 02 June 2023 - 21:32.

[ANF]

Indy NXT qualifying should be underway now.

[HerbieMcQueen]

Just seen some bits of practice. I sense that Sunday's race is going to be a cluster of epic proportions - what a crapshoot. I haven't read through the thread but I'm assuming the move from Belle Isle was due to a) NIMBY public nuisances wanting to protect the endangered three-tailed tadpole population, and b) encouraged by monied interests downtown who wanted to lay on some sponsor activations.

[Risil]

Bring back South Boston! Bring back Providence! Bring back Qingdao!

[red stick]

HerbieMcQueen, on 02 Jun 2023 - 21:58, said:

Just seen some bits of practice. I sense that Sunday's race is going to be a cluster of epic proportions - what a crapshoot. I haven't read through the thread but I'm assuming the move from Belle Isle was due to a) NIMBY public nuisances wanting to protect the endangered three-tailed tadpole population, and b) encouraged by monied interests downtown who wanted to lay on some sponsor activations.

Again, they pretty much told us last year the reason is (b).

[jonpollak]

red stick, on 02 Jun 2023 - 19:45, said:

Ah, the Bat Signal for Jp. I see what you're doing there.

No No, not porn theaters …. REAL HOOKERS….
That’s what this place needs …on every apex and on the outside of the end of the backstretch…. Y’know like the Formula e boost corner they run through except it’s full of hookers … waiting on the outside of turn 3.

Jp

[FLB]

Palou's just given his opinion of the track surface...

 

Alex Palou Montalbo sur Twitter : "Detroit POV https://t.co/d1W7mvPf4B" / Twitter

[HerbieMcQueen]

jonpollak, on 03 Jun 2023 - 00:32, said:

No No, not porn theaters …. REAL HOOKERS….
That’s what this place needs …on every apex and on the outside of the end of the backstretch…. Y’know like the Formula e boost corner they run through except it’s full of hookers … waiting on the outside of turn 3.

Jp

 

I knew there was a reason I liked you, JP.

[SB]

Just watched the Friday highlight, By looking at the road surface, is it a rally race in fact?

[jonpollak]

https://twitter.com/...Xb0V2r0abuthW8Q

Jp

[paulb]

SB, on 03 Jun 2023 - 04:03, said:

Just watched the Friday highlight, By looking at the road surface, is it a rally race in fact?

IndyCross

[GlenWatkins]

FP2 NAO

Edited by GlenWatkins, 03 June 2023 - 13:17.

[FLB]

Fourth red flag in the session. IndyCar Radio mentionning 'Baltimore'.

[ezequiel]

I hope the hybrid next year bring the possibility of turning the car on without external aid

[krapmeister]

This track is ridiculous - not sure it is going to be worth me getting up for the race on Monday morning tbh.

[FLB]

Interesting: From IndyCar Radio, IndyCar is seeing the driver who has the biggest following (according to their aps) is Agustin Canapino.