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Started by jonpollak , Aug 17 2023 05:29

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#51 jonpollak

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Posted 29 March 2024 - 01:15

1971 Nürburgring GP

Edited by jonpollak, 10 February 2025 - 23:08.

#52 Nick Planas

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Posted 29 March 2024 - 09:38

Wow that's a great find - thank you. I remember being on holiday in Kingsbridge, Devon, and watching some footage on the BBC (maybe on Grandstand?) but there was very little UK coverage then. For anyone who says watching a modern grand prix is boring; well, with all due respect to this era, which was 'my era' as a young fan, the winner was fairly predictable after a lap or so... 'Twas ever thus.

#53 Sterzo

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Posted 29 March 2024 - 17:31

Wonderful, Jon. Take me back there! Went in '76, including the obligatory lap in our MGB. Tyres squealed on the corners, but my wife didn't.

#54 E1pix

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Posted 30 March 2024 - 03:23

I think mine was nine weeks later Sterzo, my first GP, first sighting of Watkins Glen, 16 years, 11 weeks old.

#55 Michael Ferner

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Posted 30 March 2024 - 09:41

Lovely! :love:

Wow that's a great find - thank you. I remember being on holiday in Kingsbridge, Devon, and watching some footage on the BBC (maybe on Grandstand?) but there was very little UK coverage then. For anyone who says watching a modern grand prix is boring; well, with all due respect to this era, which was 'my era' as a young fan, the winner was fairly predictable after a lap or so... 'Twas ever thus.

With all due respect, but I think modern F1 is so boring that even its most ardent fans can't stand the thing unless it's nailbitingly unclear who's going to win. I can't speak for others, but for me it was always exciting to watch back in the day even if Sir Jackie (or anyone else) was clearing off into the sunset from the word 'Go!'. I could watch this for hours, and read every word that was ever written about it, but can't be tempted to watch a ten-minute recap of last week's "Grand Prix" with all its contrived 'suspense'.

#56 john aston

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Posted 03 May 2024 - 06:13

Lovely!

With all due respect, but I think modern F1 is so boring that even its most ardent fans can't stand the thing unless it's nailbitingly unclear who's going to win. I can't speak for others, but for me it was always exciting to watch back in the day even if Sir Jackie (or anyone else) was clearing off into the sunset from the word 'Go!'. I could watch this for hours, and read every word that was ever written about it, but can't be tempted to watch a ten-minute recap of last week's "Grand Prix" with all its contrived 'suspense'.

I think that is both unfair and untrue, and perhaps also reflective of the fact that we never fall out of love with the stuff we fell for in our youth . Your certainly aren't speaking for me when you say even its most ardent fans .can't stand F1 unless the race is close . Now as then, there are periods of domination but Verstappen is rued while Clark , Stewart , Ascari or Senna is venerated . I loathe all the PR noise , the daft new fanbase, some of the crappy new circuits and the regimes which paid for them but when the ~~flag drops~~ lights go out , the thrill is the same as it ever was. And why wouldn't it be ? It is still the same equation - will car A catch and pass car B ?

And my God there were some dull races on crap circuits in the past - Nivelles, Dallas, Zolder anyone?

Edited by john aston, 04 May 2024 - 06:52.

#57 Henri Greuter

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Posted 03 May 2024 - 10:59

Saturday at Imola 1994

Jp

I am speechless about this for a choise

#58 D28

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Posted 03 May 2024 - 18:57

I think mine was nine weeks later Sterzo, my first GP, first sighting of Watkins Glen, 16 years, 11 weeks old.

I was there as well, great times, when USA made do with 1 GP on a real racing circuit. Were you accredited to cover that race? I know you started very young.

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Posted 03 May 2024 - 19:14

I wonder if anyone recalls a Tuscan Challenge race at Castle Combe (1990?) where Gerry Marshall was unable to qualify/practice, did so (IIRC) with the FF1600s and was thus demoted to the back of the grid in the TVR race.

Then - in a VERY competitive race series - managed to overhaul the field and finish second. I doubt I've ever been so rapt by one driver's progress in one race, but he was something else. I may even be wrong that he finished second rather than first but does anyone recall it?

I'd imagine Mr GDR Marshall would feature in many "great race" nominations.

#60 E1pix

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Posted 05 May 2024 - 03:03

I was there as well, great times, when USA made do with 1 GP on a real racing circuit. Were you accredited to cover that race? I know you started very young.

I was just a rabid fan at that one, with four college friends, and in ‘77 with my dad and a classmate, but had credentials at both the Glen and Montreal in ‘78 (at 18).

#61 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 06 May 2024 - 11:12

Peter Brocks win in 1979 at Bathurst. Won by 6 laps and set the lap record on the last lap.

#62 10kDA

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Posted 09 May 2024 - 20:19

#63 jonpollak

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Posted 30 May 2024 - 23:31

They deleted the race so here is a substitute....(without the makethislookbetter device.)

Edited by jonpollak, 10 February 2025 - 23:07.

#64 john aston

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Posted 31 May 2024 - 06:00

I saw this - is it some weird AI confection? The voices sound especially odd and I'm sure I heard reference to Graham (not Phil) Hill's Ferrari? Parallel universe maybe ..

#65 Collombin

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Posted 31 May 2024 - 06:16

I don't think it's the first time this has been posted, I remember it showing a rare outing for the great Jack Bartrum in car number 14. At least the footage more than makes up for the voiceover.

#66 Stephen W

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Posted 31 May 2024 - 07:05

I saw this - is it some weird AI confection? The voices sound especially odd and I'm sure I heard reference to Graham (not Phil) Hill's Ferrari? Parallel universe maybe ..

Burl Ives' commentary was overlaid back in the States some time after the race. He would be reading the script given him. As for the footage 100% genuine 1962.

I don't think it's the first time this has been posted, I remember it showing a rare outing for the great Jack Bartrum in car number 14. At least the footage more than makes up for the voiceover.

Jack Brabham was driving a Lotus 24 Climax having left Cooper to set up his own race car company - the Lotus was an interim car prior to his first F1 car being ready.

#67 Tim Murray

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Posted 31 May 2024 - 07:36

I’ve not watched the clip, but the opening photo (as seen in Jon’s post above) is from the 1961 race.

#68 jonpollak

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Posted 06 June 2024 - 17:14

I was told it IS actual footage from '62 but upscaled and run through a makethislookbetter device.

Now, while not a actual race it is interesting

A lap with Howden Ganley at the Ring in 1973 with Sir Jackie describing the action

https://youtu.be/aga...NFOncM6PVe&t=16

#69 jonpollak

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Posted 10 June 2024 - 18:21

1965 Targa Florio (Castrol Films)

Edited by jonpollak, 10 February 2025 - 23:03.

#70 nmansellfan

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Posted 11 June 2024 - 12:10

Now, while not a actual race it is interesting

A lap with Howden Ganley at the Ring in 1973 with Sir Jackie describing the action

https://youtu.be/aga...NFOncM6PVe&t=16

Jp

Always loved that clip - from The Quick and the Dead. The full film is on YT in 4k - though it's a hard watch in places, some of the interviews with Hailwood, Cervert etc. are priceless, and the footage at the Nordschleife and Montjuich Park is amazing.

I had always wondered what the soundtrack to Howden Ganley's onboard was though - definately not a DFV as was in the back of the Iso-Marlboro, but it sounds very mich like the Matra V12 in this onboard with Henri Pescarolo at Le Mans:

https://youtu.be/Nfa...ZPoPKclQqqtyfOs

#71 Sterzo

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Posted 11 June 2024 - 20:51

1965 Targa Florio (Castrol Films)

Jp

Not for the first time, Jon, I must say: thank you for an excellent evening! Have just watched the terrific Targa Florio video. As Lorenzo Bandini said: Much bends!

#72 jonpollak

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Posted 09 September 2024 - 23:45

Bastards removed it...

Here's Rindt at the 1970 Zeltweg round.... !!!!

Edited by jonpollak, 09 September 2024 - 23:46.

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Posted 14 September 2024 - 20:44

Arguably the greatest bike race of all time. WSBK during its late nineties heyday, Old School Hockenheim, Heuwen and Ryder getting carried away on commentary and a fired up Carl Fogarty wanting to answer his critics.

Edited by karl100589, 16 September 2024 - 05:41.

#74 WonderWoman61

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Posted 14 September 2024 - 20:56

1998 Belgian GP, wet, carnage-filled, Damon Hill's last win, Jordan's first win and only 1-2!

#75 jonpollak

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Posted 27 September 2024 - 23:22

1969 Monza en Français !!

#76 E1pix

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Posted 28 September 2024 - 02:44

Arguably the greatest bike race of all time. WSBK during its late nineties heyday, Old School Hockenheim, Heuwen and Ryder getting carried away on commentary and a fired up Carl Fogarty wanting to answer his critics.
https://www.youtube....h?v=UeyM1IHuvCM

AWESOME, Thanks!!!

#77 jonpollak

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Posted 28 September 2024 - 16:17

500 Miglia di Indianapolis 1987 (Sintesi Italia 1) Questa volta in italiano

#78 jonpollak

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Posted 29 September 2024 - 18:00

Good Lord these are showing up hot and heavy on my YouTube in recent days.

1979 Race of Champions Brands Hatch

Edited by jonpollak, 10 February 2025 - 23:02.

#79 Sterzo

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Posted 29 September 2024 - 19:36

^ Did you see me in the crowd, Jon?

#80 jonpollak

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Posted 30 September 2024 - 21:58

I was already back in LA after my stint at TechTheatre school in Guildford other wise I'd have been there standing there right next to you !!!

#81 E1pix

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Posted 30 September 2024 - 23:25

I saw you in the video Sterzo — if that was you… ;-)

To wit and back atcha, though annoyingly presented in five parts:
https://m.youtube.co...x=1&pp=iAQB8AUB

(A great day for a lost mentor and friend, RIP Gordon)
(RIP Rupert Keegan)

#82 2F-001

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Posted 01 October 2024 - 09:30

I was at that Silverstone Aurora race, somewhere in the startline stands. I didn't know that footage existed; I'd forgotten how good the opening stages of the race were - though I have always remembered Gordon's both-arms-up celebration.

#83 jonpollak

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Posted 01 October 2024 - 13:22

Sent to me today was a one of the FIRST live satellite broadcasts of an international sporting event.

I remember being on vacation in 1969 with the family in Santa Barbara when my father sat me down in front of the TV and said...

"Son, this is the future of your beloved car racing, it's called satellite broadcasting".

#84 jonpollak

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Posted 16 October 2024 - 15:03

1975 German Grand Prix (Nürburgring)

Edited by jonpollak, 10 February 2025 - 23:01.

#85 john aston

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Posted 25 November 2024 - 07:15

'It left the world speechless ', did it ? . I must have missed that bit. I probably said ' bloody good overtake' yesterday to my chum on Monday morning .