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[PayasYouRace]

I recall DSJ arguing that one of the reasons for Lotus not progressing the turbine car further was that they didn't want Lotus-Pratt and Whitney taking points off Lotus-Ford. Not much fear of that, I would have thought! And with only the top finishing car scoring constructor points the opposite argument might hold too - two Lotuses could score points each race instead of one.

If prize money was paid out equally per point scored then it wouldn’t really matter anyway.

[dia6olo]

Ferrari and Merc drivers cared, Its been revealed at Merc their staff's bonuses were dependent on it.

I don't think it's that black and white, the drivers along with the staff are the "workers" on the ground, as often is the case with big companies/institutions, what the real people in charge say they care about and what they actually care about is often very different to what the workers care about...

Edited by dia6olo, 28 November 2023 - 13:52.

[DW46]

I care about the World Constructors' Championship as much as I do about the World Drivers' Championship. They're both championships awarded to the sport's competitors, so they're both important. Although I fully get why the WDC gets way more attention.

Interestingly, the first auto racing world championship was actually a manufacturers' championship: World Manufacturers' Championship, won by Alfa Romeo, in 1925. The first sportscar world championship was also a manufacturer's title, won by Ferrari, in 1953, as was the first rally world championship, won by Alpine-Renault, in 1973.

Oh, and I can list all WCC winners since 1958 including their engine partners from memory.

Where does one tap out? 😂

[lustigson]

Where does one tap out?

 

[Bleu]

Back in 2021, before Saudi Arabian Grand Prix you could have easily asked Wolff and Horner, which result they would rather take?
 

a) Hamilton wins WDC, Red Bull wins WCC
b) Verstappen wins WDC, Mercedes wins WCC

 

The first one wasn't possible anymore going to Abu Dhabi after Checo crashed in Jeddah. Even with a result like Perez win+FL, Hamilton 10th with Verstappen and Bottas not scoring.

[DW46]

As in I couldn’t possibly do that and if you can I take my hat off to you Sir 👍 👏

Edited by DW46, 28 November 2023 - 17:27.

[DW46]

Back in 2021, before Saudi Arabian Grand Prix you could have easily asked Wolff and Horner, which result they would rather take?

a) Hamilton wins WDC, Red Bull wins WCC
b) Verstappen wins WDC, Mercedes wins WCC

The first one wasn't possible anymore going to Abu Dhabi after Checo crashed in Jeddah. Even with a result like Perez win+FL, Hamilton 10th with Verstappen and Bottas not scoring.

Christian answered that at Silverstone when RB pitted Checo from 9th for fastest lap iirc. Risking 2 pts to deprive Hamilton/Mercedes of 1.

Toto never answered directly but I suspect based on his comments about wanting to win the 8th with Hamilton he’d do the same. (Unless he actually did clock the tell Bottas to park it strat on lap 57 and opted not to but that’s not a view I personally subscribe to). 😮

Something, something . . . Stopwatch.

[lustigson]

As in I couldn’t possibly do that and if you can I take my hat off to you Sir

Ah, right!