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#1 sladealonso

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Posted 28 November 2023 - 13:25

Well with the 2023 Formula One season firmly in the books, it never takes us long to look ahead and start wondering about what the future holds. So without further ado, I present to you the 2025 F1 Silly Season Trophy... and this one could be better than ever.

 

First and foremost, we have the presence of Andretti to consider. Yes, the American outfit is targeting a slot on the grid in a little over 12 months time, and while they have faced much resistance from the grid's current incumbents, they may well make it. On top of predicting who may pilot their inaugural F1 contender, there are numerous top line drivers out of contract for 2025, so there are numerous unknowns.

 

Will Fernando Alonso's legendary F1 career continue?

 

Will Leclerc lose faith with Ferrari?

 

Will Lawrence lose faith in his son?

 

Who will take a gamble on the Sauber/Audi seats?

 

So with that in mind, do you think you have what it takes to predict the 2025 Formula One grid? Give it your best shot below.

Previous winners:
2003: Brian O Flaherty
2004: Flying Panda
2005: lukywill, Viceroy, Makarias
2017: ANF
2018: Marklar
2019: TurnOffTheLights
2020: rodlamas
2021: M2000-5

Participation:
To participate, post a reply in this topic with the drivers you think will be on the grid in the first Formula One Grand Prix of 2025. Be sure to follow the rules and please make sure there is no confusion as to which driver you mean.

Rules and point scoring:
The game will continue with the same scoring system as last year: unpopular picks are rewarded more if they turn out to be true. Early indications are that this is a good method for breaking ties.
2 drivers per team. In case more drivers are provided, player only scores points for the first two listed.
1 team per driver. In case a driver is placed into multiple teams, player only scores points for the first one mentioned.
5 points for correctly guessing driver/team. You can earn up to 2 bonus points for each successful pick depending on how many people guessed that particular driver/team combination. This is calculated as 2*(1–(a/b)), where a is the amount of guesses with that driver/team combination among other participants and b is the amount of your opponents (i.e. total guesses minus one).
2 points for correctly guessing driver (wrong team). You can earn up to 1 bonus point for each successful pick depending on how many people guessed that driver would participate. This is calculated as 1–(a/b), where a is the amount of guesses with that driver/team combination among other participants and b is the amount of your opponents (i.e. total guesses minus one).
On top of the regular bonus points, you get double points if the driver you guessed was mentioned by nobody else.
0 points if driver doesn't compete. An exception is if the driver was supposed to participate but did not due to a temporary injury or temporary ban (e.g. in 2017 you would get 5 points for guessing either Ericsson, Giovinazzi or Wehrlein in the Sauber and 2 points for guessing them in any other team, but no points for guessing van der Garde in any team in 2015).
If you list less than 13 teams and there are less than 13 teams on the grid in 2025, you score points for the teams you left out (5 points per team).
You can list an unknown driver (no given name) in a team. You will then score 5 points if a driver that was not mentioned by any other entry drives in the team you put him/her in. You will score no points if an unknown driver drives in a different team.
In the event of a tie, the player putting the most drivers in the correct teams is given preference. If there is still a tie, the player who submitted his guess first is given preference (in case a post is edited, I will look at the time it was last edited, not the original submission time).

Deadline: December 7 - 12:00PM GMT 



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#2 sladealonso

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Posted 28 November 2023 - 13:36

Red Bull: Max Verstappen & Yuki Tsunoda

Ferrari: Charles Leclerc & Carlos Sainz

McLaren: Lando Norris & Oscar Piastri

Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton & George Russell

Aston Martin: Fernando Alonso & Lance Stroll

Alpine: Pierre Gasly & Esteban Ocon

Racing Bulls: Liam Lawson & Daniel Ricciardo

Williams: Alex Albon & Andrea Kimi Antonelli

Sauber: Nico Hulkenberg & Theo Pourchaire

Haas: Kevin Magnussen & Oliver Bearman

Andretti: Valtteri Bottas & Felipe Drugovich


Edited by sladealonso, 06 December 2023 - 15:42.


#3 Benchulo

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Posted 28 November 2023 - 15:27

Red Bull: Max Verstappen/Carlos Sainz

Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton/George Russell

Ferrari: Charles Leclerc/Pierre Gasly

McLaren: Lando Norris/Oscar Piastri

Aston Martin: Fernando Alonso/Lance Stroll

Alpine: Esteban Ocon/Theo Pourchaire

Williams: Alexander Albon/Andrea Kimi Antonelli

Alpha Tauri: Yuki Tsunoda/Daniel Ricciardo
(Or whatever it'll be called)

Haas: Oliver Bearman/Kevin Magnussen

Sauber: Nico Hulkenberg/Zhou Guanyu

Edited by Benchulo, 06 December 2023 - 04:50.


#4 Beri

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Posted 28 November 2023 - 15:35

Red Bull: Max Verstappen & Daniel Ricciardo

Ferrari: Charles Leclerc & Carlos Sainz

McLaren: Lando Norris & Oscar Piastri

Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton & George Russell

Aston Martin: Fernando Alonso & Lance Stroll

Alpine: Pierre Gasly & Esteban Ocon

Racing Bulls: Yuki Tsunoda & Liam Lawson

Williams: Alex Albon & Frederik Vesti

Sauber: Nico Hulkenberg & Theo Pourchaire

Haas: Kevin Magnussen & Zhou Guanyu

Andretti: Logan Sargeant & Sergio Perez

#5 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 28 November 2023 - 15:40

2025 is a long, long way away..  :cool:


Red Bull Verstappen & Lawson

Ferrari Leclerc & Sainz

McLaren Norris & Piastri

Mercedes Hamilton & Russel

Aston Martin Alonso & Stroll

Alpine Ocon & Gasly

The Team currently known as Alpha Tauri Tsunoda & Iwasa

Williams Albon & Vesti

Sauber Hulkenberg & Purchaire

Haas Bearman & Bortoleto

Andretti Herta & Doohan

 

Made new entry further down.


Edited by KWSN - DSM, 06 December 2023 - 14:23.


#6 Beri

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Posted 28 November 2023 - 18:21

Haas                                    Bearman & Bortoleto
Andretti                                Herta & Doohan

Very interesting choices. Albeit Herta could be very interesting

#7 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 28 November 2023 - 19:22

Red Bull: Max Verstappen & Yuki Tsunoda

Ferrari: Charles Leclerc & Carlos Sainz

McLaren: Lando Norris & Oscar Piastri

Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton & George Russell

Aston Martin: Esteban Ocon & Lance Stroll

Alpine: Pierre Gasly & Theo Pourchaire

Racing Bulls: Daniel Ricciardo & Liam Lawson

Williams: Alexander Albon & Frederik Vesti

Sauber: Valtteri Bottas & Guanyu Zhou

Haas: Nico Hulkenberg & Oliver Bearman

Andretti: Sergio Perez & Logan Sargeant


Edited by DutchQuicksilver, 28 November 2023 - 20:53.


#8 F1Frog

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Posted 28 November 2023 - 20:29

Red Bull: Max Verstappen and Oscar Piastri

Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton and George Russell

Ferrari: Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz

McLaren: Lando Norris and Pato O'Ward

Aston Martin: Fernando Alonso and Lance Stroll

Alpine: Esteban Ocon and Pierre Gasly

Williams: Alexander Albon and Frederik Vesti

Haas: Nico Hulkenberg and Oliver Bearman

Sauber: Sergio Perez and Zhou Guanyu

Alpha Tauri: Yuki Tsunoda and Liam Lawson



#9 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 28 November 2023 - 21:16

Very interesting choices. Albeit Herta could be very interesting

 

Andretti are clear on putting Herta in one of their cars if in any way possible, somewhat of a longshot considering him not having a Superlicense and by looks is not interested go get one the easy way. I have to get Dohan in somewhere, so there he is.

 

:cool:



#10 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 28 November 2023 - 21:18

 

McLaren: Lando Norris and Pato O'Ward

 

 

That would pee Palou off in no uncertain manner.



#11 Junky

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Posted 28 November 2023 - 23:22

Red Bull: Max Verstappen & Daniel Ricciardo

Ferrari: Charles Leclerc & Carlos Sainz

McLaren: Lando Norris & Oscar Piastri

Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton & George Russell

Aston Martin: Fernando Alonso & Lance Stroll

Alpine: Pierre Gasly & Esteban Ocon

Racing Bulls: Yuki Tsunoda & Liam Lawson

Williams: Alexander Albon & Frederik Vesti

Sauber/Audi: Nico Hulkenberg & Theo Pourchaire 

Haas: Zhou Guanyu & Kevin Magnussen

Andretti: Felipe Drugovich & Logan Sargeant

To be honest, I was in between Hulk and Ocon for the Sauber/Audi seat. Also, Zhou in Haas is a long shot.



#12 Ashley89H

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Posted 29 November 2023 - 08:48

Red Bull: Max Verstappen, Yuki Tsunoda
Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton, George Russell
Ferrari: Charles Leclerc, Alexander Albon
McLaren: Lando Norris, Oscar Piastri
Aston Martin: Esteban Ocon, Felipe Drugovich
Alpine: Carlos Sainz, Pierre Gasly
Williams: Andrea Antonelli, Logan Sargeant
Alphatauri: Liam Lawson, Ayumu Iwasa
Sauber: Nico Hulkenberg, Zhou Guanyu
Haas: Kevin Magnussen, Oliver Bearman

#13 H0R

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Posted 29 November 2023 - 11:08

Red Bull: Max Verstappen, Daniel Ricciardo

Ferrari: Charles Leclerc, Carlos Sainz

McLaren:  Oscar Piastri, Pato O'Ward

Mercedes: George Russell, Lando Norris

Aston Martin:  Fernando Alonso, Lance Stroll

Alpine: Pierre Gasly, Esteban Ocon

Racing Bullshit: Yuki Tsunoda, Liam Lawson

Williams: Valterri Bottas, Alex Albon

Sauber: Zhou Guanyu, Theo Pourchaire

Haas: Kevin Magnussen, Oliver Bearman

Andretti: Logan Sargeant, Bryan Herta


Edited by H0R, 29 November 2023 - 12:21.


#14 JvsKVB77

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Posted 29 November 2023 - 11:10

Red Bull: Max Verstappen/Daniel Ricciardo

Ferrari: Charles Leclerc/Alex Albon

McLaren: Lando Norris/Oscar Piastri

Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton/George Russell

Aston Martin: Carlos Sainz/Lance Stroll

Alpine: Pierre Gasly/Zhou Guanyu

Racing Bulls: Yuki Tsunoda/Liam Lawson

Williams: Valtteri Bottas/Andrea Kimi Antonelli

Sauber: Nico Hulkenberg/Esteban Ocon

Haas: Sergio Perez/Oliver Bearman

Andretti: Kevin Magnussen/Logan Sargeant

 



#15 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 29 November 2023 - 13:17

Being a Magnussen fan I am pleasantly surprised that so many of you think he will still be a F1 driver in 2025, considering that I as the fan do not think so. I am actually still not 100% that he will be in 2024.



#16 sladealonso

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Posted 29 November 2023 - 15:25

Being a Magnussen fan I am pleasantly surprised that so many of you think he will still be a F1 driver in 2025, considering that I as the fan do not think so. I am actually still not 100% that he will be in 2024.

Personally, I just can't see Haas changing their lineup completely. Think he may get saved a bit with Hulkenberg jumping ship to the fledgling Audi project.



#17 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 29 November 2023 - 15:34

Personally, I just can't see Haas changing their lineup completely. Think he may get saved a bit with Hulkenberg jumping ship to the fledgling Audi project.

 

His season were poor enough regardless of being in a poor car to not have too strong an argument for keeping him there even in 2024, I do not expect him to still be there in 2025.



#18 sladealonso

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Posted 29 November 2023 - 16:22

His season were poor enough regardless of being in a poor car to not have too strong an argument for keeping him there even in 2024, I do not expect him to still be there in 2025.

I agree completely. Just think Gunther and co. will be a bit wary of having an all new line-up after the Mick-Mazepin year. 

 

I do think if Hulk doesn't return to Hinwil, Kmag will be off with Bearman dropped in his place.



#19 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 29 November 2023 - 18:25

I’m a bit surprised so many still see Alonso in F1 in 2025, He’ll be 44 by then!

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#20 William Hunt

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Posted 29 November 2023 - 19:52

I’m a bit surprised so many still see Alonso in F1 in 2025, He’ll be 44 by then!

 

True but Aston Martin seems interested to want to extend him another year. What surprised me more is that no one so far believes that Stroll won't be around anymore, sure Stroll ended the season well in the final 3 races buy he was having a horrible season before that.
Personally I think there is a realistic chance Stroll will end up in WEC with the Valkyrie hypercar by 2025.



#21 William Hunt

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Posted 29 November 2023 - 19:58

Being a Magnussen fan I am pleasantly surprised that so many of you think he will still be a F1 driver in 2025, considering that I as the fan do not think so. I am actually still not 100% that he will be in 2024.

 

It looks like Hülkenberg could be lured away to Sauber, Williams, Aston Martin or even Red Bull (I actually think he might end up at Red Bull; he's got the perfect profile for that seat). That might save Magnussen's seat, maybe because Perez could be on the market, maybe Ricciardo or one of the Alpine drivers: all possible targets for Haas who I think will run Oliver Bearman in one of their cars.

If Andretti enters (they should, in theory they can perfectly enter without taking a share of the tv / prize money btw) then I can see an experienced driver like Magnussen  high on Andretti's list. With possible an Alpine Jr. (Doohan, Martins) in the other seat.

 



#22 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 29 November 2023 - 20:11

It looks like Hülkenberg could be lured away to Sauber, Williams, Aston Martin or even Red Bull (I actually think he might end up at Red Bull; he's got the perfect profile for that seat). That might save Magnussen's seat, maybe because Perez could be on the market, maybe Ricciardo or one of the Alpine drivers: all possible targets for Haas who I think will run Oliver Bearman in one of their cars.

If Andretti enters (they should, in theory they can perfectly enter without taking a share of the tv / prize money btw) then I can see an experienced driver like Magnussen  high on Andretti's list. With possible an Alpine Jr. (Doohan, Martins) in the other seat.

 

 

:cool:

 

You are still on the Hulkenberg to Red Bull, they will not hire him. Audi/Sauber seems a much more possible destination, as I said much as I am a Magnussen fan he need to show something in 2024 in order for him to be extended, and even if showing something it could become a question, too many up and coming drivers knocking on the F1 doors.



#23 Anderis

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Posted 01 December 2023 - 10:37

Man, this is really difficult. I honestly think plenty of drivers are on their last seasons with their current teams in 2024 but who goes where in 2025 is something I have 0 clue about. :rotfl:



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Posted 01 December 2023 - 23:36

Red Bull     Max Verstappen    Daniel Ricciardo
Mercedes     Lewis Hamilton    George Russell
Ferrari      Charles Leclerc   Carlos Sainz
McLaren      Lando Norris      Oscar Piastri
Aston Martin Fernando Alonso   Lance Stroll
Alpine       Pierre Gasly      Esteban Ocon
Williams     Alex Albon        Andrea Antonelli
Alpha Tauri  Liam Lawson       Jack Doohan
Sauber       Nico Hülkenberg   Theo Pourchaire
Haas         Oliver Bearman    Zhou Guanyu
Andretti     Sergio Perez      Yuki Tsunoda

Edited by Makarias, 01 December 2023 - 23:38.


#25 Anderis

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Posted 03 December 2023 - 23:37

Red Bull: Max Verstappen & Carlos Sainz

Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton & George Russell
Ferrari: Charles Leclerc & Alex Albon

McLaren: Lando Norris & Oscar Piastri

Aston Martin: Lance Stroll & Sergio Perez

Alpine: Pierre Gasly & Esteban Ocon

Williams: Nico Hulkenberg & Zak O'Sullivan

Alpha Tauri/Racing Bulls: Yuki Tsunoda & Liam Lawson

Sauber: Valtteri Bottas & Theo Pourchaire

Haas: Kevin Magnussen & Oliver Bearman


Edited by Anderis, 06 December 2023 - 00:18.


#26 noikeee

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Posted 04 December 2023 - 15:46

Red Bull: Max Verstappen, Sergio Perez
Mercedes: George Russell, Lewis Hamilton
Ferrari: Charles Leclerc, Carlos Sainz
McLaren: Lando Norris, Oscar Piastri
Aston: Alex Albon, Lance Stroll
Alpine: Pierre Gasly, Victor Martins
Williams: Andrea Kimi Antonelli, Valtteri Bottas
Alpha Tauri: Liam Lawson, Yuki Tsunoda
Sauber-Audi: Esteban Ocon, Nico Hulkenberg
Haas: Kevin Magnussen, Felipe Drugovich

Edited by noikeee, 06 December 2023 - 21:01.


#27 sladealonso

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Posted 06 December 2023 - 13:41

Just reminding everyone that the deadline for entries to this is tomorrow!



#28 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 06 December 2023 - 14:19

Red Bull: Verstappen & Ricciardo

McLaren: Norris & Piastri

Mercedes: Russell & Hamilton

Ferrari: Leclerc & Sainz

Aston Martin: Alonso & Albon

Alpine: Gasly & Doohan

Williams: Antonelli & Ocon

Haas: Hulkenberg & Bearman

Sauber: Bottas & Bortoleto

Toro Rosso: Lawson & O'Sullivan



#29 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 06 December 2023 - 14:20

Changing mine, with Tsunoda at Red Bull, which I have a hard time understanding, only other driver I really would see there would actually be Perez, which may still be the likeliest.

Red Bull                                Verstappen & Tsunoda
Ferrari                                 Leclerc & Sainz
McLaren                                 Norris & Piastri
Mercedes                                Hamilton & Russel
Aston Martin                            Alonso & Stroll
Alpine                                  Ocon & Gasly
The Team currently known as Alpha Tauri Lawson & Ricciardo
Williams                                Albon & Vesti
Sauber                                  Hulkenberg & Purchaire
Haas                                    Bearman & Magnussen
Andretti                                Martins & Doohan


#30 scheivlak

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Posted 06 December 2023 - 15:43

Red Bull: Max Verstappen & Daniel Ricciardo

 

Ferrari: Charles Leclerc & Carlos Sainz

 

McLaren: Lando Norris & Oscar Piastri

 

Mercedes: George Russell & Alex Albon

 

Aston Martin: Fernando Alonso & Lance Stroll

 

Alpine: Esteban Ocon & Victor Martins

 

Racing Bulls: Yuki Tsunoda & Liam Lawson

 

Williams: Pierre Gasly & Frederic Vesti

 

Sauber: Theo Pourchaire & Nico Hulkenberg

 

Haas: Sergio Perez & Oliver Bearman

 

Andretti: Colton Herta & Felipe Drugovich



#31 Brawn BGP 001

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Posted 07 December 2023 - 00:31

Red Bull - M Verstappen  Y Tusunoda

McLaren - L Norris O Piastri

Ferrari - C Lelcerc C Sainz

Mercedes - L Hamilton G Russell

Aston Martin - P Gasly L Stroll

Racing Bullwhatever - D Ricciardo L Lawson

Alpine - E Ocon V Martins

Williams - A Albon AK Antonelli

Sauber - N Hulkenberg T Pourchaire

Haas - G Zhou O Bearman

Andretti - F Drugovich C Herta


Edited by Brawn BGP 001, 07 December 2023 - 00:33.


#32 mark f1

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Posted 07 December 2023 - 01:49

Red Bull: Max Verstappen & Daniel Ricciardo

Ferrari: Charles Leclerc & Carlos Sainz

McLaren: Lando Norris & Oscar Piastri

Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton & George Russell

Aston Martin: Fernando Alonso & Lance Stroll

Alpine: Pierre Gasly & Esteban Ocon

Racing Bulls: Liam Lawson & Dennis Hauger

Williams: Alex Albon & Jack Doohan

Sauber: Valtteri Bottas & Theo Pouchaire

Haas: Nico Hulkenberg & Logan Sargeant

Andretti: Colton Herta & Frederick Vesti



#33 M2000-5

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Posted 07 December 2023 - 08:34

Red Bull: Verstappen - Ricciardo

Mercedes: Hamilton - Russell

Ferrari: Leclerc - Sainz

McLaren: Norris - Piastri

Aston Martin: Alonso - Drugovich

Alpine: Ocon - Gasly

Ninardi (why not, who knows what will the name be): Tsunoda - Lawson

Williams: Albon - Doohan

Sauber: Bottas - Pourchaire

Haas: Hulkenberg - Bearman

Andretti: Herta - Perez



#34 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 07 December 2023 - 08:36

Red Bull: Verstappen & Ricciardo

McLaren: Norris & Piastri

Mercedes: Russell & Hamilton

Ferrari: Leclerc & Sainz

Aston Martin: Alonso & Albon

Alpine: Gasly & Doohan

Williams: Antonelli & Ocon

Haas: Hulkenberg & Bearman

Sauber: Bottas & Bortoleto

Toro Rosso: Lawson & O'Sullivan

I'll add Andretti: Zhou & Perez



#35 scheivlak

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Posted 01 February 2024 - 20:03

None of us expected Hamilton switching to Ferrari.

 

H0R and me were the only ones expecting Lewis not to continue at Mercedes with Lando Norris and Alex Albon named as possible substitutes respectively.

 

Four people expected Sainz to move elsewhere: to Red Bull (mentioned 2 times), Alpine or Aston Martin.



#36 sladealonso

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Posted 02 February 2024 - 08:19

Yeah, this has really put the cat amongst the pigeons



#37 M2000-5

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Posted 02 February 2024 - 11:33

Oh well. I just hope Hamilton and Ferrari pick up the respective titles. It'd be nice.