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[George Costanza]

17.

[Baddoer]

Does it really matter? I'm expecting most uninspiring, dull, boring and pointless season ever. Didn't even bother to follow the tests.

[George Costanza]

Does it really matter? I'm expecting most uninspiring, dull, boring and pointless season ever. Didn't even bother to follow the tests.

2004 with Schumacher?

[BarryinIN]

22. With one to Hulkenberg and one to Magnussen.

[JimmyClark]

2004 with Schumacher?

I actually enjoyed 2004, as the battle behind Schumacher was entertaining, and end of the season was a lot more varied.

Also the cars and circuits were great.

Nowadays we have a boring season, but also worse engines, no unreliability jeopardy and constant fussing about track limits.

[ForzaFormula]

This RB is an evolution of last, it is so.much faster on race pace than anything else and their drs advantage means they fly past all other cars easily. So unless Perez.does some miracles or Max has many misfortunes then he should easily win at least 20 of these 24 races.

[JimmyClark]

and their drs advantage

 

Do they still have this advantage though? I'm not sure if this was clear from testing. 

[George Costanza]

I actually enjoyed 2004, as the battle behind Schumacher was entertaining, and end of the season was a lot more varied.

Also the cars and circuits were great.

Nowadays we have a boring season, but also worse engines, no unreliability jeopardy and constant fussing about track limits.

I agree with that for sure.

[Bleu]

After tight 2003 I recall a lot of expectations for 2004 but then Ferrari destroyed everyone's hopes in the first weekend. In the race, gap from first to third was 34,673 seconds.

[jacdaniel]

This thread is a bit silly. We don’t even know if Red Bull is fastest yet.

I see one comment saying Max will EASILY win all 24 races… I mean come on…

[GrumpyYoungMan]

Sounds like "Oh Little Town of Bethlehem" to me, so reminds me of childhood nativity plays which is nice in a nostalgia kind of way.

 

 

 

Went for 11 to 20. Would be amazed if it was 10 or less. Would be less amazed if he dropped 3 races or fewer to reliability, random SC's, occasional team mate actual good weekend - but that would still surprise me. I think actual number ends up something like 19 or 20.

 

 

 

We've got a regs overhaul on the horizon already, what more can they do?

 

It does amaze me that the current rule set (in particular budget caps and wind tunnel time limits) seem to be having the effect of squashing the field closer together, save for one team. Not sure what more the sport can do though to counter that, they've put the measures in place that should prevent it, they're working for 90% of the grid, what more can they do?

I think Newey has just a too good an understanding of aero, so can just at something and know it won't work in the real world, so doesn't need to use the CFD to prove it.

 

Isn't he the only designer now, who was around on the last set of ground effect cars?

Edited by GrumpyYoungMan, 29 February 2024 - 14:30.

[Spillage]

I'm gonna guess about 15. They don't look as crushingly dominant as last year to me, but I could be wrong.

[Henri Greuter]

I think Newey has just a too good an understanding of aero, so can just at something and know it won't work in the real world, so doesn't need to use the CFD to prove it.

 

Isn't he the only designer now, who was around on the last set of ground effect cars?

 

 

I don't know if Rory Byrne is still involved with Ferrari as a consultant?

[KeithD68]

All of them

 

Great job RB but yawn, another season I won't bother to watch beyond a few highlights

[Neomaster121]

I'm not so sure he's going to run away with it this season. 2 ferrari on his tail and the pack uber tight

[Centauri]

I'm not so sure he's going to run away with it this season. 2 ferrari on his tail and the pack uber tight

He qualified with a bigger gap to 2nd this year than last year. So in theory the RB is even quicker, relatively speaking.

[JimmyClark]

And don't forget there's a rumoured massive upgrade coming between races 4 and 7.

[Countersteer]

The fact that a driver who took pole by 2 tenths is expected to dominate so hard that he will win every race is very funny.

Leclerc’s Q2 time was quicker than pole so it’s not even representative.

[Henri Greuter]

I prefer a way more exciting season then last year for certain.

But there is one exception.

 

Should it be proven that the Whatsapp leak of yesterday is a result of one of a few opponent teams being behind it?

 

 

Then I sincerely hope that Max breaks every record there is to break within a single season and at the moments he is unable to that Sergio will take over and that RedBull drives everything into the ground like never ever been seen before in F1 history. Just to humiliate and reward that team behind that Whatspp leak with that humiliation.

[Nemo1965]

Seconded, Henri. Before the season I hoped for an exiting fight between Leclerc and Verstappen, until the last race, with a slight preference for Charles to win… because it is Charles. No I hope for an improved repeat of ‘23, with lots of Charles Horner cameos at F1 TV, and can revel in myself how the pearl-clutchers about Horners adultery are squirming in their seats at home.

[Taxi]

I mean, there are no evidences/suspect that anyone from other team would do such thing. Specially not Ferrari.  I don't trust Mercedes/ Mclaren/AMR but even so I don't think they would get involved. They are just surfing the wave.

 

So... I would like  a Max walkover with Charles second. 

[TheFish]

The fact that a driver who took pole by 2 tenths is expected to dominate so hard that he will win every race is very funny.

Leclerc’s Q2 time was quicker than pole so it’s not even representative.

Last year it wasn't dominant on Saturdays but was miles clear on Sundays.

 

Has there been anything so far to expect anything different this season?

[jacdaniel]

Last year it wasn't dominant on Saturdays but was miles clear on Sundays.

Has there been anything so far to expect anything different this season?

Perez is nowhere all weekend. He was P2 here last year in both quali and the race.

Ferrari had a great chance to get pole yesterday.

Red Bulls long runs didn’t look dominant to me either on Thursday.

[TheFish]

Perez is nowhere all weekend. He was P2 here last year in both quali and the race.

Ferrari had a great chance to get pole yesterday.

Red Bulls long runs didn’t look dominant to me either on Thursday.

Perez is average and has no business being in the title winning car.

 

We'll re-assess after today and likely a dominant cruise to victory.

[JHSingo]

This thread is a bit silly. We don’t even know if Red Bull is fastest yet.

 

You were saying? 

[ForzaFormula]

Max is cruising up there, driving to a delta, with the car dialled down, this is not even at 70% of what he and that RedBull can do.

 

With Perez so slow, the only chance of him not winning every race is misfortune.

[messy]

24. If I could, I’d fast forward it now.

[jacdaniel]

You were saying?

Still 23 races to go and I’m fairly sure Max won’t win them all.

[JimmyClark]

The crazy thing is, even if Max only wins 2/3 races, he will win 16 of them. Which was the length of a whole season not too long ago. After the race today, there's no way he will win less than 2/3. So I'm sticking with my prediction of 18.

Also he doesn't like the long seasons, so maybe he can take a few races off and still win at a canter.

[MinardiSpeed]

Gonna be fun when Perez purposely crash out in Monaco to win qualifying, and Max only miss Monaco for the perfect season.

Edited by MinardiSpeed, 03 March 2024 - 04:13.

[Brawn BGP 001]

Don't like RBR at all but he does win all races be funny to see how the media/Domenicali will spin it all to be amazing.