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Qualifying Averages Between Teammates - 2024 Edition


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#1 tyker

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Posted 23 March 2024 - 12:37

Once again I bring forward my qualifying averages for those of you that are interested in this kind of thing, my methodology is too use the fastest lap a driver achieves whether that be in Q1, Q2 or Q3, a driver may well out qualify his teammate but end up having achieved a slower lap so his teammate gets the benefit towards the average lap.

 

Laps are only used where drivers competed in the same qualifying sessions and only dry laps are used because wet laps are run in inconsistent conditions were much larger gaps in teammates are often seen and often an element of luck might be present as well.

 

It has to be seen that a driver has had a fair chance to set a competitive lap, free of mechanical issues, yellow flags etc, also a driver may simply not have set a competitive lap after running off the track or it could be a combination of all 3 things. Another thing I have to be sure of is that drivers are driving to their maximum ability and not just coasting through the qualifying sessions like we tend to see with the top teams until they reach Q3.

 

2024 (After 3 races)

 

01. Tsunoda 0.45s

02. Albon 0.4s

03. Verstappen 0.35s

04. Bottas 0.32s

05. Alonso 0.213s

06. Hulkenberg 0.206s

07. Ocon 0.17s

08. Russell 0.14s

09. Leclerc 0.11s

10. Norris 0.09s

 



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#2 Secretariat

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Posted 23 March 2024 - 14:30

Nice and thanks for your effort. Regarding your methodology, what is the standard for "competitive lap"? Is it just the combination of those 3 variables or are there additional considerations like traffic/impeding?



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Posted 23 March 2024 - 14:49

Nice and thanks for your effort. Regarding your methodology, what is the standard for "competitive lap"? Is it just the combination of those 3 variables or are there additional considerations like traffic/impeding?

Yes also things like traffic and impeding.



#4 tyker

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Posted 06 April 2024 - 14:15

After Japan (Japan Difference)

 

01. Bottas 0.4s (0.541s)

02. Alonso 0.36s (0.77s)

03. Tsunoda 0.35s (0.055s)

04. Albon 0.32s (0.176s)

05. Verstappen 0.28s (0.066s)

06. Hulkenburg 0.24s (0.31s)

07. Ocon 0.21s (0.308s)

08. Norris 0.14s (0.271s)

09. Russell 0.05s (-0.242s)

10. Leclerc 0.04s (-0.104s)



#5 jAnO76

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Posted 06 April 2024 - 15:34

Yes also things like traffic and impeding.

Welll… didn’t Perez have Russel parked in the final chicane? 😬

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Posted 06 April 2024 - 16:17

Welll… didn’t Perez have Russel parked in the final chicane?

I didn't watch the qualifying live so I guess that must be something I missed, that being said I would be guessing that Perez is quite pleased with his qualifying lap, it lowered his gap to Verstappen.



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Posted 06 April 2024 - 16:53

Welll… didn’t Perez have Russel parked in the final chicane?

Did he have to slow for him? Didn't look like he did to me. I thought Russell was off line and out of the way.



#8 statsguy

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Posted 06 April 2024 - 17:54

After Japan (Japan Difference)

 

01. Bottas 0.4s (0.541s)

02. Alonso 0.36s (0.77s)

03. Tsunoda 0.35s (0.055s)

04. Albon 0.32s (0.176s)

05. Verstappen 0.28s (0.066s)

06. Hulkenburg 0.24s (0.31s)

07. Ocon 0.21s (0.308s)

08. Norris 0.14s (0.271s)

09. Russell 0.05s (-0.242s)

10. Leclerc 0.04s (-0.104s)

How are you treating the race where Sainz was injured - is Bearman's time used instead? It makes sense to exclude it as an outlier, otherwise it distorts Sainz's performance.



#9 tyker

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Posted 06 April 2024 - 19:31

How are you treating the race where Sainz was injured - is Bearman's time used instead? It makes sense to exclude it as an outlier, otherwise it distorts Sainz's performance.

No it's a driver comparison not the cars they drive, it's excluded.


Edited by tyker, 06 April 2024 - 23:38.


#10 tyker

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Posted 20 April 2024 - 12:48

After China (China Difference)

 

01. Albon 0.4s (0.629s)

02. Bottas 0.38s (0.336s)

03. Alonso 0.32s (0.186s)

04. Hulkenburg 0.292s (0.448s)

05. Verstappen 0.287s (0.322s)

06. Tsunoda 0.22s (-0.303s)

07. Ocon 0.18s (0.064s)

08. Russell 0.14s (0.491s)

09. Norris 0.13s (0.11s)

10. Leclerc 0.03s (0.008s)


Edited by tyker, 05 May 2024 - 00:12.


#11 tyker

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Posted 04 May 2024 - 23:00

After Miami (Miami Difference)

 

01. Bottas 0.38s (0.361s)

02. Albon 0.35s (0.144s)

03. Hulkenberg 0.281s (0.236s)

04. Verstappen 0.276s (0.219s)

05. Tsunoda 0.23s (0.293s)

06. Alonso 0.22s (-0.25s)

07. Norris 0.12s (0.081s)

08. Ocon 0.11s (-0.233s)

09. Russell 0.05s (-0.37s)

10. Leclerc 0.04s (0.073s)



#12 tyker

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Posted 18 May 2024 - 18:29

After Imola (Imola Difference)

 

01. Albon 0.348s (-)*

02. Bottas 0.347s (0.208s)

03.Verstappen 0.31s (0.53s)

04. Hulkenberg 0.28s (-)*

05. Tsunoda 0.24s (0.316s)

06. Alonso 0.13s (-0.459s)

07. Ocon 0.11s (0.109s)

08. Norris 0.104s (-0.017s)

09. Russell 0.096s (0.27s)

10. Leclerc 0.08s (0.263s)

 

*Sargeant didn't set a legal lap, Magnussen got impeded by Piastri.


Edited by tyker, 18 May 2024 - 20:55.