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[Primo]

I hope Alonso did not do what it looked like he did.

[jwill189]

Last year, race officials would throw the red flag for entertainment purposes. This year, Russell is stranded in the middle of the track off a high-speed corner and they only have a virtual safety car.

 

Russell was scared for his life when he screamed over and over for a red flag. I feel bad for him. Just terrible by the officials.

[ConsiderAndGo]

That looked extremely dodgy by Alonso.

Edit: he basically confirms an issue with deployment.

Edited by ConsiderAndGo, 24 March 2024 - 06:01.

[TomNokoe]

I hope Alonso did not do what it looked like he did.

He did but it depends where you draw the line. The telemetry will clearly show the early braking/lift but I'll think he'll get away with it.

That looked extremely dodgy by Alonso.

Edit: he basically confirms an issue with deployment.

Lol yeah right

Edited by TomNokoe, 24 March 2024 - 06:02.

[jwill189]

That looked extremely dodgy by Alonso.

Edit: he basically confirms an issue with deployment.

 

Watch Alonso's onboard.

[Massa]

He did but it depends where you draw the line. The telemetry will clearly show the early braking/lift but I'll think he'll get away with it.

Deployment issue

So Mercedes fault 🤣

[Button4life]

I hope Alonso did not do what it looked like he did.

Not on purpose. The convo he had with his engineer;

Excerpt from Alonso’s radio during the battle.

Alonso: “Check the throttle”

Engineer comes back: “Yeah we see it”

Alonso: “Something’s stuck, I’m pushing with all my strength”

Engineer: “Copy yeah, we see it”

Double yellows come out

Engineer: “MFB blue”

Alonso; “I don’t know if I can get it back”

Throttle issues. The engineer confirmed it on the radio.

[Muzzyf1]

That looked extremely dodgy by Alonso.

Edit: he basically confirms an issue with deployment.

Dodgy by Russell

[jwill189]

He did but it depends where you draw the line. The telemetry will clearly show the early braking/lift but I'll think he'll get away with it.


Lol yeah right

 

Watch Alonso's onboard before you make baseless accusations.

[Burtros]

You can hear Alonso lift, think he’s probably taken the tricks and gamesmanship a little to far there.

[Clrnc]

That looked extremely dodgy by Alonso.

Edit: he basically confirms an issue with deployment.

I saw his on board from the sound it did seem like a deployment issue midway through the straights.

There's no way anyone would deliberately brake test anyone there because the long straights he would be a sitting duck

[ARTGP]

He did but it depends where you draw the line. The telemetry will clearly show the early braking/lift but I'll think he'll get away with it.


Lol yeah right

 

Alonso had a problem with his throttle. I checked the onboard. You can hear engine cutting in and out.  He reported it immediately afterwards and you can hear the engine bouncing around for the entire final lap. He ask team to check the throttle and the engineer said "we see it, something's failing"

Edited by ARTGP, 24 March 2024 - 06:04.

[SCUDmissile]

Or is it more likely Russell's bad racecraft getting him into trouble yet again.

[ConsiderAndGo]

Onboard Alonso does sound like an issue with the car.

Rachael Brooks baiting Russell now lol. “TELL ME HE BRAKE TESTED YOU!!!”

Edited by ConsiderAndGo, 24 March 2024 - 06:05.

[TomNokoe]

Alonso had a problem with his throttle. I checked the onboard. You can hear engine cutting in and out. He reported it immediately afterwards and you can hear the engine bouncing around for the entire final lap. He ask team to check the throttle and the engineer said "we see it, something's failing"

Bizarre but fair enough

[Marklar]

its insane that this incident is being investigated. he may have lifted but Russell didnt crash to avoid him, he crashed because of dirty air. That's just part of the game

[Hellenic tifosi]

I am really glad Alonso had an issue - it would have been very dirty if he had brake tested Russell there.

[Clrnc]

its insane that this incident is being investigated. he may have lifted but Russell didnt crash to avoid him, he crashed because of dirty air. That's just part of the game

Spot on.

Also insane that there are so many accusation of Alonso here. Seems like people can't wait to jump on him everytime

[TomNokoe]

I just watched Alonso's onboard and the throttle issue only appeared afterwards. It's clear from the audio that his sudden loss of speed was him choosing to lift/brake.

I agree with others that Russell has to deal with the dirty air, but let's see.

[Brod]

I just watched Alonso's onboard and the throttle issue only appeared afterwards. It's clear from the audio that his sudden loss of speed was him choosing to lift/brake.

I agree with others that Russell has to deal with the dirty air, but let's see.

 

Clearly...Alonso lifted and the lucky devil got a problem right afterwards and is now able to explain his sins.....jesus. 

[Lesky]

I just watched Alonso's onboard and the throttle issue only appeared afterwards. It's clear from the audio that his sudden loss of speed was him choosing to lift/brake.

I agree with others that Russell has to deal with the dirty air, but let's see.

 

What could the punishment be for Alonso if deemed guilty?

[TomNokoe]

Clearly...Alonso lifted and the lucky devil got a problem right afterwards and is now able to explain his sins.....jesus.

Lol don't know if you're being sarcastic but an intermittent throttle and sudden brake/lift sound completely different. The timing is almost too convenient I wouldn't be surprised if he quickly changed a throttle map or something, but whatever.

[Brod]

Lol don't know if you're being sarcastic but an intermittent throttle and sudden brake/lift sound completely different. The timing is almost too convenient I wouldn't be surprised if he quickly changed a throttle map or something, but whatever.

Yeah...whatever....

[Hellenic tifosi]

It will be a very easy investigation - telemetry will reveal everything.

[SophieB]

That crash looks terrifying from onboard

 

https://x.com/g_lewi...0084662743?s=20

[TomNokoe]

It will be a very easy investigation - telemetry will reveal everything.

Very clear but depends whether the stewards think this is just about acceptable https://twitter.com/...781350405607648

[SophieB]

@racefansdotnet

 

RaceFans understands data from

@alo_oficial

's car indicated he braked on two separate occasions approaching turn six on the final lap when

@GeorgeRussell63

suddenly closed on him and crashed. More to follow. #F1 #AustralianGP #RaceFans

[NateF]

@racefansdotnet












RaceFans understands data from
@alo_oficial's car indicated he braked on two separate occasions approaching turn six on the final lap when
@GeorgeRussell63suddenly closed on him and crashed. More to follow. #F1 #AustralianGP #RaceFans

https://twitter.com/...785967927492835

…

[brucewayne]

Wow this could really be a break check by Alonso, unless there is an explanation for that. But why would he do that?

[TomNokoe]

Wow this could really be a break check by Alonso, unless there is an explanation for that. But why would he do that?

To wrong foot Russell before the DRS zone, and it worked.

[BoDarvelle]

Wow this could really be a break check by Alonso, unless there is an explanation for that. But why would he do that?

 

He would have expected Russell to back off ruining his run down to turn 9. 

 

Instead Russell ran out of talent.

[SophieB]

Chris Medland

 

@ChrisMedlandF1

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7m

 

Nearly an hour later, Russell and Alonso emerge. Something seems to be going on there… #F1 #AustralianGP

[Rediscoveryx]

What would the pontial reprimand amount to if a brake test would be proven?

[ConsiderAndGo]

What would the pontial reprimand amount to if a brake test would be proven?

No idea. License penalty points? A race ban?

If purposeful, potentially endangering someone’s wellbeing is gonna get you a ban.

[SophieB]

What would the pontial reprimand amount to if a brake test would be proven?

 

Well, I know we're treading into sensitive ground here, but there are recent precedents:

 

Keith Collantine

 

@keithcollantine

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1h

 

If the stewards do believe

@alo_oficial

brake-tested

@GeorgeRussell63

, they should take the opportunity to correct the dreadfully weak precedent set at Jeddah in 2021 and impose a much harsher penalty than 10 seconds. #F1 #AustralianGP #RaceFans

[CoolBreeze]

doesn;;t look like a brake test to me

[Muppetmad]

This is definitely one that will require a close study of the telemetry.

[ConsiderAndGo]

I also don’t know why Alonso would do that… he was pretty comfortably ahead

[ClubmanGT]

I am shocked, shocked that George Russell going off is probably someone else's fault.

What a turn up for the books. 

[TauriJ]

That crash looks terrifying from onboard

 

https://x.com/g_lewi...0084662743?s=20

I see nothing terrifying. 

 

Only thing that is terrifying is that the car stands sideways on the racetrack behind blind corner.

[BoDarvelle]

I see nothing terrifying. 

 

Only thing that is terrifying is that the car stands sideways on the racetrack behind blind corner.

 

Pretty mild crash overall. Looks worse because the tire went under the car tipping it up a bit.

[SophieB]

I see nothing terrifying. 

 

Only thing that is terrifying is that the car stands sideways on the racetrack behind blind corner.

 

Well, yeah, dude you've just put your finger on the whole point.

 

 

I guess apart from the bit where he's left stranded on the racing line in the middle of the track with cars at racing speed, it's not so bad.

[F1 Mike]

I don't understand how you can be seen to be unfairly brake testing someone when you're actually supposed to be braking for the corner. You can take the corner however you like. If you jump on the brakes when you're accelerating out of a slow corner, or on a straight under acceleration, that's a whole different thing

[Rediscoveryx]

The situation is also complicated a bit by the visability issue when racing through the shade of the trees. It’ll be slightly more difficult for the following car to assess the relative speed, so if a lift is made there the following car may be slower than usual to react.

[krapmeister]

This corner needs different runoff next year...

Different runoff or different corner angle?

I think the curved barrier and the proximity to the track is the issue. Cars will bounce off the barrier and onto the track.

There is a massive tree just on the other side of the barrier - one of quite a few trees there. They can't move it back without chopping trees down

[Muzzyf1]

I doubt alonso break tested him you can clearly see something is wrong with the car perking violently on the way back to pits

[Muzzyf1]

I don't understand how you can be seen to be unfairly brake testing someone when you're actually supposed to be braking for the corner. You can take the corner however you like. If you jump on the brakes when you're accelerating out of a slow corner, or on a straight under acceleration, that's a whole different thing

This 100 percent

[Hellenic tifosi]

I saw the onboard again - Alonso is visibly debating way before the corner. Even if intentional, I doubt this can be classified as a violent brake test.

[Ben1980]

If you are driving in the same or similar way fir lap after lap, and then do something very different, it can become dangerous. The question is, was there a reason to do something different or was it to cause a problem to the one behind.

[HuddersfieldTerrier1986]

Over 2 hours since Alonso and Russell went to see the stewards, and over an hour since the 2 of them left the stewards.....still no decision