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Aston Martin makes huge offer to Newey -- will he go? [split]


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#101 DW46

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Posted 03 April 2024 - 08:36

And those who pray to happy wife, happy life.


They fall into either category depending on whether your Missus likes the sound of Italy or not. 😂

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#102 krapmeister

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Posted 03 April 2024 - 10:18

Newey is on his 3rd wife, so that's not working too well for him.


3rd time's a charm!

#103 Gambelli

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Posted 03 April 2024 - 10:29

Surely there's a lot of Hamilton fans who don't want him at ferrari anyway right, because if he won an 8th under Newey it wouldn't truly count, like the titles won by Vettel and Verstappen don't count to some fans, because they are won under Newey.....



#104 FirstnameLastname

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Posted 03 April 2024 - 10:35

Newey is on his 3rd wife, so that's not working too well for him.


When you’re that rich, worth shopping around

#105 F1 Mike

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Posted 03 April 2024 - 11:30

Dodging off topic slightly on that note for a second, I've always thought it must be really difficult to find true love when you have the sort of money Newey will have stashed away

#106 ARTGP

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Posted 05 April 2024 - 14:35

Not that I think you should believe any team principal, but Aston Martin are choosing to officially deny the speculation that they are interested in Newey.

“ Asked if there was any truth to Aston Martin’s alleged Newey approach, Krack simply replied: “No.”

Pushed to expand on this very brief response, Krack obliged with: “We have a very strong technical team with Dan, with Tom [McCullough, performance director], with Luca [Furbatto, engineering director], we were joined lately by Bob Bell [executive director].


https://www.planetf1...wey-speculation

Edited by ARTGP, 05 April 2024 - 14:36.


#107 New Britain

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Posted 05 April 2024 - 14:44

Not that I think you should believe any team principal, but Aston Martin are choosing to officially deny the speculation that they are interested in Newey.


https://www.planetf1...wey-speculation

'Hello, Lawrence? This is Adrian Newey. I have heard a lot of good things about Aston Martin and would be very interested in leaving my present team and to come work for yours. Might you have a place for me there?'

 

'Adrian, I'm not trying to be rude, but we have a very strong technical team with Dan, with Tom, with Luca, we were joined lately by Bob Bell, so, no there would be no place for you here. But thanks a lot for asking, and have a nice day.'



#108 Gravelngrass

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Posted 05 April 2024 - 14:47

It depends: if Alonso moves out of Aston, surely Newey will somehow end up there…

But yeah, as someone has said, so far he’s moved to Ferrari, Aston Martin and possibly even Mercedes. Funny how some fans prefer their favorite drivers to be assured of more championships by driving the best car than to really prove their worth with the 2nd or 3rd best car…

#109 JL14

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Posted 05 April 2024 - 19:44

I believe that if Newey decides to leave Red Bull, the sole reason for that is that he doesn't have faith in the RBP-engine project, as we know how frustrated and close to calling it quits he became when the Renault engine was lacking.
 



#110 RainyAfterlifeDaylight

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Posted 05 April 2024 - 22:03

https://www.planetf1...wey-speculation


That firm "No" perhaps is a sign that Adrian Newey has rejected the offer, if the rumor is to be believed.

Edited by RainyAfterlifeDaylight, 05 April 2024 - 22:04.


#111 garoidb

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Posted 06 April 2024 - 07:46

That firm "No" perhaps is a sign that Adrian Newey has rejected the offer, if the rumor is to be believed.

 

It definitely can't just mean "No"  :rotfl:



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Posted 06 April 2024 - 09:11

Means he’s lying. Probz already signed the contract.

Newey to AM confirmed. Heard it here first. Spread the word.

#113 flyboym3

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Posted 06 April 2024 - 09:55

Can't see him valuing the attraction of AM above and beyond what he's already got at rbr.

But Ferrari- at least that is something and would be the stuff of legends.

You only live once, dunno why he wouldnt try it.

Edited by flyboym3, 06 April 2024 - 09:55.


#114 Sterzo

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Posted 06 April 2024 - 14:02

By all accounts (including his own), Newey likes to work in an unusual way, with a combination of "hands on" detailed work at the drawing board, yet with a say in top level decisions. Horner has found a way to accommodate that, whereas Williams didn't. If it's true that a battle for control is taking place between Marco and Mateschitz junior on the one hand, and Horner and Yoovidhya on the other, Newey might well feel unsettled to the point of looking elsewhere. Yoovidhya owns 51% of Red Bull but was happy to be a sleeping partner while the brilliant Dietrich did his stuff. Now that Dietrich has gone, he is less likely to continue taking a back seat.



#115 chrcol

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Posted 07 April 2024 - 03:11

It's the 2026 car he would need to have influence on.

2026 is 2025 wasted, the sooner the better.



#116 krea

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Posted 07 April 2024 - 07:11

By all accounts (including his own), Newey likes to work in an unusual way, with a combination of "hands on" detailed work at the drawing board, yet with a say in top level decisions. Horner has found a way to accommodate that, whereas Williams didn't. If it's true that a battle for control is taking place between Marco and Mateschitz junior on the one hand, and Horner and Yoovidhya on the other, Newey might well feel unsettled to the point of looking elsewhere. Yoovidhya owns 51% of Red Bull but was happy to be a sleeping partner while the brilliant Dietrich did his stuff. Now that Dietrich has gone, he is less likely to continue taking a back seat.

 

Bullshit, he knows the best about digital tools including fast prototyping and simulations. We are talking about a guy who wants wind tunnels be banned for F1 development.  



#117 ARTGP

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Posted 07 April 2024 - 23:14

Newey was asked by RN365 about his future.  

Exclusive: Newey responds to rumours surrounding Red Bull future | RacingNews365

 

 

Newey 'continues to enjoy F1'

One potential destination that was mooted for the 65-year-old was Ferrari, which would allow him to work alongside seven-time world champion Lewis Hamilton.

Speaking exclusively to RacingNews365, Newey asserted he is still keen to be involved in F1 going forward but has not given extensive thought to his immediate future.

“I enjoy [it],” Newey said. “Ever since I was 10 or so, certainly by 12, I wanted to be a designer - I don’t think I knew the word ‘engineer’ - in motor racing, and ideally, Formula 1.

“That's what I [put] all my teenage years towards. I managed to get that first job in motor racing when I graduated.

“I’ve hugely enjoyed it, and I continue to enjoy it.

“So I think as long as I continue to enjoy it and the team wants me then I’ll continue to do it for the moment and then we'll have to see in the future.

“I don't tend to plan too far forward.”


Edited by ARTGP, 07 April 2024 - 23:15.


#118 r4mses

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Posted 07 April 2024 - 23:27

If he wanted to be wokring in F1 at the age of 12, he surely, excuse me, for sure he wants to work for Ferrari at some point   :wave:



#119 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 07 April 2024 - 23:32

Bullshit, he knows the best about digital tools including fast prototyping and simulations. We are talking about a guy who wants wind tunnels be banned for F1 development.

Did you read his book? Before calling bs?

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#120 masa90

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Posted 08 April 2024 - 05:54

Surely there's a lot of Hamilton fans who don't want him at ferrari anyway right, because if he won an 8th under Newey it wouldn't truly count, like the titles won by Vettel and Verstappen don't count to some fans, because they are won under Newey.....

 

Whats the difference about which dominant car the titles were won? These claims are bit funny to me :D



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Posted 08 April 2024 - 10:35

If he wanted to be wokring in F1 at the age of 12, he surely, excuse me, for sure he wants to work for Ferrari at some point   :wave:

 

If he wanted that at the age of 12 and continued to want that, he'd have been at Ferrari long ago. The fact that he's spend most of his life in F1 and still hasn't landed at Ferrari indicates to me that he's not at all focused on joining that team.



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Posted 09 April 2024 - 00:07

Newey was never as large as Ferrari’s history of car building. I think in a unique way, Newey remained as an individual who are contributing to the race teams that he worked with. Ferrari demand every one of the member to be smaller. I recon this is the reason why Newey did not work for Ferrari. But now, his cars heating the fields for decades, records, … but Byrne was never as big as Newey at Red Bull, even if Byrne has beaten Newey fair and square. So, unless Newey changes his operation, I guess Newey will not dress that red suits.
You never know.
Might be a green. Why not?

Edited by kumo7, 09 April 2024 - 00:08.


#123 Gambelli

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Posted 09 April 2024 - 00:42

Whats the difference about which dominant car the titles were won? These claims are bit funny to me :D

 

There's not, but there's a contingent of Hamilton fans, not all of course, just some, who say that Vettel and Verstappen titles don't count as anyone could have won in Newey cars.

 

It apparently doesn't register the same for Mercedes and their huge engine advantage for most of Hamilton's titles, in fact one has to say should titles count if won with a Mercedes engine?  (No, I don't actually believe that btw, they are all valid titles)



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Posted 09 April 2024 - 10:24

Bullshit, he knows the best about digital tools including fast prototyping and simulations. We are talking about a guy who wants wind tunnels be banned for F1 development.  

As you like to be blunt. Read his book then you will might just understand how he works.



#125 frosty125

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Posted 09 April 2024 - 10:29

Not sure why this is news.

We know he has had offers from Ferrari, Aston Martin and probably every other team.

Just sounds like Stroll has gone to the media and claimed to have offered him more money than the other teams as a PR exercise.


Newey has done the jump from big team to underdog before.

#126 DW46

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Posted 09 April 2024 - 12:21

There's not, but there's a contingent of Hamilton fans, not all of course, just some, who say that Vettel and Verstappen titles don't count as anyone could have won in Newey cars.

It apparently doesn't register the same for Mercedes and their huge engine advantage for most of Hamilton's titles, in fact one has to say should titles count if won with a Mercedes engine? (No, I don't actually believe that btw, they are all valid titles)


In my day it was hearing the MSC fans arguing that Damo, JV and Mika won because of a dominant car. Something, something, bespoke Bridgestone tyres 😂

#127 Gambelli

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Posted 10 April 2024 - 11:02

In my day it was hearing the MSC fans arguing that Damo, JV and Mika won because of a dominant car. Something, something, bespoke Bridgestone tyres

 

Yep I guess the wheel keeps turning doesn't it?  Fans of any given driver are always going to diminish the feats of drivers beating their favorite.

 

And I'll be honest in saying that I felt the same way about HIll winning in 96, but i gave more credit to JV and Mika, but the reality is, everyone who has won a title has deserved it, Hil included.

 

I'm not a Hamilton fan, but he's deserved the titles he's won (except 2008 - hehe)



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Posted 10 April 2024 - 11:12

Not that I think you should believe any team principal, but Aston Martin are choosing to officially deny the speculation that they are interested in Newey.


https://www.planetf1...wey-speculation

 

I dunno when planet had became the most reliable source of information. Perhaps Knack did not pay enough attentions to a question. Like anything else the boss can flirt in a way it could mean a lot. I cannot imagine that Aston Martin will put a paper forward to Newey with numeration, and obvisoult it does not mean that the boss had not communicated his interests to have Newey to his team, as a cost that usual engineers cannot imagine.