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[PayasYouRace]

I didn’t realise Brazil was the gold standard for human rights and democracy.

[highdownforce]

I didn’t realise Brazil was the gold standard for human rights and democracy.

It is not! And that is exactly the point.

Everything on my list is WAY BEYOND everything wrong in Brazil.

Brazilian constitution (1988) is heavily inspired by continental European constitutions (mainly Italian) so everything you think is a given in Europe, is a given in Brazil.

Just like many other places on the globe.

So look at my list, if anything "checks", maybe, just maybe, it is something that is being overlooked on the ranking system.

[PayasYouRace]

It is not! And that is exactly the point.

Everything on my list is WAY BEYOND everything wrong in Brazil.

Brazilian constitution (1988) is heavily inspired by continental European constitutions (mainly Italian) so everything you think is a given in Europe, is a given in Brazil.

Just like many other places on the globe.

So look at my list, if anything "checks", maybe, just maybe, it is something that is being overlooked on the ranking system.

These rankings tend to match across multiple independent sources. I suggest you’re being a bit precious over what I assume is your home country.

[highdownforce]

These rankings tend to match across multiple independent sources. I suggest you’re being a bit precious over what I assume is your home country.

Yeah, we are not war criminals.

[PayasYouRace]

Yeah, we are not war criminals.

Nobody has presented a list of countries ranked by war crimes in this thread. So I don’t think you’ve understood what is being measured.

[highdownforce]

Nobody has presented a list of countries ranked by war crimes in this thread. So I don’t think you’ve understood what is being measured.

I think your definition of freedom and Human Rights is pretty vain if so.

Those rankings are western propaganda, just that.

Top countries are known rulebook offenders of international law for political rights, religious freedom, racism, mass imprisonment, hate crimes, media freedom, foreign citzen treatment and environmental crimes.

Edited by highdownforce, 17 April 2024 - 13:49.

[PayasYouRace]

I think your definition of freedom and Human Rights is pretty vain if so.

No I think I have a pretty good grasp on it, thanks very much.

[highdownforce]

No I think I have a pretty good grasp on it, thanks very much.

You mean the right to commit crimes without international scrutinity, yeah.

Nice grasp.

[PayasYouRace]

You mean the right to commit crimes without international scrutinity, yeah.

Nice grasp.

Yeah you really don’t seem to understand what this is about.

[highdownforce]

Is it about what?

Freedom? Certainly not.

Respect for Human Rights? Certainly not.

"Moral" grounds? Certainly not.

Democracy? Please, don't make me laugh.

The "inviolable right to property, liberty and human self determination"? Hah! Certainly not that too.

Edited by highdownforce, 17 April 2024 - 14:36.

[SCUDmissile]

I don't think they should race in any country where Freedom Index points are below 70. But since we're talking about Liberty Media, we obviously have a total of 5 races in places where the Freedom Index is below 20 and no races in places with perfect 100 score (in other words Finland, Sweden & Norway). If only money didn't matter...

I agree liberty should be more responsible where they race.

I count 4 races in countries currently supporting and arming, supplying the perpetrators of a holocaust and genocide.

So we definitely should not race in Miami, Las Vegas, Silverstone or Austin.

Deplorable nations.

[Ruusperi]

Thanks for giving me brain cancer from whataboutism in this thread. Well, since I started it, I guess I should have predicted it. Sorry everyone.

[LolaB0860]

In the most shocking of developments, Bahrain is almost surely hosting testing again

 

https://speedcafe.co...ticket-options/

 

Bahrain looks the favourite to host pre-season testing for 2025 ahead of the season starting in Melbourne. The date of Ramadan has forced a rejigged start to next season raising questions over where to go testing. Bahrain has been the preferred location in recent years for both its stable climate and logistical simplicity given it has hosted the season start.

 

There is an argument for a return to Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya, which historically hosted pre-season. The Spanish venue is cheaper but has less amicable weather.

 

However, despite the limited value of testing as F1 enters the final year of the current regulation cycle, the Middle East is tipped to hold three-days of running in early 2025.

[LolaB0860]

Barcelona may return for testing in 2026, despite (likely) not being on the actual calendar with Madrid's arrival

https://www.motorspo...-test/10625082/

However, sources have revealed that, following discussions with FOM, a majority of teams have voted in favour of sticking with Bahrain again for 2025, even though Barcelona may well return in 2026 for the running of the all-new cars.

[JimmyClark]

I would much prefer testing to take place on a circuit that's not on the calendar.

[Beri]

Kuwait Motor Town?

[LolaB0860]

TBH I though it actually made load of sense when the pre-season testing trio was Jerez, Valencia and Barcelona. Fairly minimal logistics and costs and most of all you get three different configurations, two of which were not even part of the race calendar

 

Bahrain is the most boring choice of all. Especially in those seasons when Australia's not the first race (so most of them now sadly)

Edited by LolaB0860, 20 June 2024 - 16:32.

[JimmyClark]

Kuwait Motor Town?

If it leads to a race there, then I'm all for it. F1 would look great on that circuit compared to Abu Dhabi/Bahrain/Qatar.

[jimjimjeroo]

Why have they stopped going to Portimao?? 

[Goron3]

Kuwait Motor Town?

Alongside Dubai autodrome, this is probably the best track in the ME.

[LolaB0860]

Why have they stopped going to Portimao??

Someone else offered more money is the answer to every calendar riddle

[jonpollak]

Freedom Index country is bullshit propaganda.

Back in 2019 I was waiting to cross the road at a stoplight in Indianapolis. Nigel Roebuck was standing next to me and said.
My view of the international Freedom Index is…..

Can I cross the road on a red light if no cars are coming ?

Jp

[LolaB0860]

So, ignoring the globe throttling and just looking at the calendar slots themselves, this is how the 2025 race weekends actually spawn out, in 52 week calendar year:

 

Week 01

Week 02

Week 03

Week 04

Week 05

Week 06

Week 07

Week 08

Week 09 Winter Test

Week 10

Week 11 Round 1

Week 12 Round 2 + Sprint 1

Week 13

Week 14 Round 3

Week 15 Round 4

Week 16 Round 5

Week 17

Week 18 Round 6 + Sprint 2

Week 19

Week 20 Round 7

Week 21 Round 8

Week 22 Round 9

Week 23

Week 24 Round 10

Week 25

Week 26 Round 11

Week 27 Round 12

Week 28

Week 29

Week 30 Round 13 + Sprint 3

Week 31 Round 14

Week 32

Week 33

Week 34

Week 35 Round 15

Week 36 Round 16

Week 37

Week 38 Round 17

Week 39

Week 40 Round 18

Week 41

Week 42 Round 19 + Sprint 4

Week 43 Round 20

Week 44

Week 45 Round 21 + Sprint 5

Week 46

Week 47 Round 22

Week 48 Round 23 + Sprint 6

Week 49 Round 24

Week 50

Week 51

Week 52

 

It's not as bad as 2024 even though there are still 3 triple-headers and the balancing is weird at the start and end

Edited by LolaB0860, 15 October 2024 - 21:31.