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[PayasYouRace]

I didn’t realise Brazil was the gold standard for human rights and democracy.

[highdownforce]

I didn’t realise Brazil was the gold standard for human rights and democracy.

It is not! And that is exactly the point.

Everything on my list is WAY BEYOND everything wrong in Brazil.

Brazilian constitution (1988) is heavily inspired by continental European constitutions (mainly Italian) so everything you think is a given in Europe, is a given in Brazil.

Just like many other places on the globe.

So look at my list, if anything "checks", maybe, just maybe, it is something that is being overlooked on the ranking system.

[PayasYouRace]

It is not! And that is exactly the point.

Everything on my list is WAY BEYOND everything wrong in Brazil.

Brazilian constitution (1988) is heavily inspired by continental European constitutions (mainly Italian) so everything you think is a given in Europe, is a given in Brazil.

Just like many other places on the globe.

So look at my list, if anything "checks", maybe, just maybe, it is something that is being overlooked on the ranking system.

These rankings tend to match across multiple independent sources. I suggest you’re being a bit precious over what I assume is your home country.

[highdownforce]

These rankings tend to match across multiple independent sources. I suggest you’re being a bit precious over what I assume is your home country.

Yeah, we are not war criminals.

[PayasYouRace]

Yeah, we are not war criminals.

Nobody has presented a list of countries ranked by war crimes in this thread. So I don’t think you’ve understood what is being measured.

[highdownforce]

Nobody has presented a list of countries ranked by war crimes in this thread. So I don’t think you’ve understood what is being measured.

I think your definition of freedom and Human Rights is pretty vain if so.

Those rankings are western propaganda, just that.

Top countries are known rulebook offenders of international law for political rights, religious freedom, racism, mass imprisonment, hate crimes, media freedom, foreign citzen treatment and environmental crimes.

Edited by highdownforce, 17 April 2024 - 13:49.

[PayasYouRace]

I think your definition of freedom and Human Rights is pretty vain if so.

No I think I have a pretty good grasp on it, thanks very much.

[highdownforce]

No I think I have a pretty good grasp on it, thanks very much.

You mean the right to commit crimes without international scrutinity, yeah.

Nice grasp.

[PayasYouRace]

You mean the right to commit crimes without international scrutinity, yeah.

Nice grasp.

Yeah you really don’t seem to understand what this is about.

[highdownforce]

Is it about what?

Freedom? Certainly not.

Respect for Human Rights? Certainly not.

"Moral" grounds? Certainly not.

Democracy? Please, don't make me laugh.

The "inviolable right to property, liberty and human self determination"? Hah! Certainly not that too.

Edited by highdownforce, 17 April 2024 - 14:36.

[SCUDmissile]

I don't think they should race in any country where Freedom Index points are below 70. But since we're talking about Liberty Media, we obviously have a total of 5 races in places where the Freedom Index is below 20 and no races in places with perfect 100 score (in other words Finland, Sweden & Norway). If only money didn't matter...

I agree liberty should be more responsible where they race.

I count 4 races in countries currently supporting and arming, supplying the perpetrators of a holocaust and genocide.

So we definitely should not race in Miami, Las Vegas, Silverstone or Austin.

Deplorable nations.

[Ruusperi]

Thanks for giving me brain cancer from whataboutism in this thread. Well, since I started it, I guess I should have predicted it. Sorry everyone.