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[RekF1]

It's going to be rubbish and you know it. It's a 'Temu' Las Vegas, but everyone has to pretend it's authentic.

This track reminds me of my ex girlfriend from Valencia. She'd sometimes try interpreting jokes into English, and it was sweet I guess, but the jokes were awful and made me feel a bit empty.

What are your thoughts for the weekend and my ex?

https://twitter.com/...cHRG_wKkOg&s=19

[aportinga]

- Lots of celebs

- Could produce some major announcements

- Sh*t race

 

That vid is awesome 

Edited by aportinga, 29 April 2024 - 21:13.

[ConsiderAndGo]

I hate this track / race / circus so much.

It’s worse than Abu Dhabi and Qatar.

[JimmyClark]

The gossip will be much more fun than the race, that's my prediction.

Oh and is it a sprint weekend again? Yay.....

[JimmyClark]

I hate this track / race / circus so much.

It’s worse than Abu Dhabi and Qatar.

At least it looks better than those as it's in daylight. It does have an identity. Sadly that identity is ****.

[mclarensmps]

I hate this track / race / circus so much.

It’s worse than Abu Dhabi and Qatar.

 

Yup, only looking forward to McLaren's upgrade, nothing else

[RekF1]

Yup, only looking forward to McLaren's upgrade, nothing else

Would the upgrades have any relevance here?

[loki]

I expect Brundle to be cringe on the grid walk.

[karl100589]

A North American race means Danica as a pundit, which means more awkward tension between her and Jenson.

[Nemo1965]

That must be worst opening thread ever…

[Risil]

Temu Las Vegas! Elvis could've sung that.

[RekF1]

That must be worst opening thread ever…

I agree

[Risil]

Do they have water in the marina yet?

[chdphd]

I have to grit my teeth every time they say "street circuit" 

[GlenWatkins]

That must be worst opening thread ever…

Thanks for volunteering to do the Imola thread.

[sportyskells]

I have a feeling we get a safety car or two this time around and hopefully no red flags as it’s the only late one for me this year

[Stephane]

I just checked the timetable, was it always this late ?

[Autodromo]

I do like that bit going under the highway turns 14-15, but that's about it.  The venue is one step up from the track in Caesar's parking lot in Vegas

[SophieB]

I vote we don’t try and meet future pain half way and have fun instead.

[Myrvold]

That must be worst opening thread ever…

 

OP's should reflect the race it's for.

 

I think it does a good job! 

[aportinga]

We'll be on Longboat Key for a week and this race is smack dab in the middle. 

 

Besides some possible interesting announcements, it will be nice to watch it on my patio - overlooking the Gulf of Mexico with the waves in the background.

[AustinF1]

A North American race means Danica as a pundit, which means more awkward tension between her and Jenson.

I haven't noticed that. What are they tense over?

[AustinF1]

I do like that bit going under the highway turns 14-15, but that's about it.  The venue is one step up from the track in Caesar's parking lot in Vegas

That's funny because that's the part that most people hate the most iirc. 

[dissident]

I... I like the first sector. 

[RekF1]

I... I like the first sector.

You bring shame to your ancestors.

[Anja]

The layout itself isn't the absolute worst, but the overall event just feels very artificial. More so than any other on the calendar, by a margin. The fake marina is very emblematic of the whole thing. 

Edited by Anja, 29 April 2024 - 21:56.

[JHSingo]

I know it's easy/trendy to dislike new things purely because they're new, but to my mind this race sums up everything that's wrong with F1 at the moment. 

 

It's probably hard to explain, but it just feels so forced upon us and fake. There's nothing about this event that feels genuine, it's just a race that exists for the money men to invite their rich, insufferable millionaire/billionaire friends along so they can boast on social media they're at an F1 race, whilst knowing absolutely nothing about it other than it's the thing Lewis Hamilton does. 

 

Tickets are sold at a ridiculous price to artificially give the impression of this being a special event on the calendar, despite it having only existed for two years and provided next to no memorable moments thus far (other than the time Martin Brundle mistook someone who wasn't Patrick Mahomes for being Patrick Mahomes, maybe). 

 

And for that exorbitant price, the regular punter gets a crap view of a crap track that will probably produce a crap race that everyone knows the result of days in advance anyway. Yet, despite that, for the next few days the media will try to gaslight us into believing what an amazing, incredible, 'OMG totally stunning babes' event this really is. 

 

Plus, to top it off, you can guarantee we'll see the now traditional over the top, utter cringe-fest of a build up to the race that for some reason F1 has to do every time it races in the USA, in some desperate "please like our sport!!!" message to people in America. 

Edited by JHSingo, 29 April 2024 - 22:09.

[Sauberfan]

So Miami has become a true hate race. Everyone hates Miami. 

 

I call it the Weimerica grand prix. Because places like Miami are a modern day version of Weimar Germany today

Edited by Sauberfan, 29 April 2024 - 22:24.

[Sauberfan]

The layout itself isn't the absolute worst, but the overall event just feels very artificial. More so than any other on the calendar, by a margin. The fake marina is very emblematic of the whole thing. 

 

It was 8th in overtakes last year. So its not terrible layout wise.

[PayasYouRace]

I don’t get the hate for this race. I’m not going to sit here and say it’s one of the best on the calendar, but I find it interesting and somewhat unique. Ok the fake marina and pre/post race celebrations are cheesy AF, but I’m here from lights to flag and that about it.

[AustinF1]

I do like that bit going under the highway turns 14-15, but that's about it.  The venue is one step up from the track in Caesar's parking lot in Vegas

I know it's easy/trendy to dislike new things purely because they're new, but to my mind this race sums up everything that's wrong with F1 at the moment. 

 

It's probably hard to explain, but it just feels so forced upon us and fake. There's nothing about this event that feels genuine, it's just a race that exists for the money men to invite their rich, insufferable millionaire/billionaire friends along so they can boast on social media they're at an F1 race, whilst knowing absolutely nothing about it other than it's the thing Lewis Hamilton does. 

 

Tickets are sold at a ridiculous price to artificially give the impression of this being a special event on the calendar, despite it having only existed for two years and provided next to no memorable moments thus far (other than the time Martin Brundle mistook someone who wasn't Patrick Mahomes for being Patrick Mahomes, maybe). 

 

And for that exorbitant price, the regular punter gets a crap view of a crap track that will probably produce a crap race that everyone knows the result of days in advance anyway. Yet, despite that, for the next few days the media will try to gaslight us into believing what an amazing, incredible, 'OMG totally stunning babes' event this really is. 

 

Plus, to top it off, you can guarantee we'll see the now traditional over the top, utter cringe-fest of a build up to the race that for some reason F1 has to do every time it races in the USA, in some desperate "please like our sport!!!" message to people in America. 

 

Yeah I don't care much for the setting. Even though they've actually gone in and dug down to put a good racing surface there with a proper foundation, it's still stuck right outside an architecturally unremarkable stadium (even as NFL stadia go). However, that's not all the fault of the owners. They did want a much more visually pleasant setting near or even above the water, and who knows, it may have been a cracker for on-track action as well. Unfortunately, that setting was opposed by a very vocal minority that was also backed by the folks here in Texas, just as the Miami Gardens site was. ETA: And like PAYR said above, the racing's not as bad as some make it out imho.

Edited by AustinF1, 29 April 2024 - 22:40.

[PayasYouRace]

That said, I’d rather they did the race at the Homestead infield roval, preferably with the banked final turns.

[mclarensmps]

Would the upgrades have any relevance here?

I actually doubt it, I think the real results will be at a future GP

[AustinF1]

That said, I’d rather they did the race at the Homestead infield roval, preferably with the banked final turns.

I'd always had my doubts about roval racing until I finally attended the Daytona 24 this year. I have to say it was pretty, pretty cool.

[OvDrone]

That said, I’d rather they did the race at the Homestead infield roval, preferably with the banked final turns.

That was really good in late 90s FIA GT and early 00s GrandAm.

[Clatter]

I know it's easy/trendy to dislike new things purely because they're new, but to my mind this race sums up everything that's wrong with F1 at the moment.

It's probably hard to explain, but it just feels so forced upon us and fake. There's nothing about this event that feels genuine, it's just a race that exists for the money men to invite their rich, insufferable millionaire/billionaire friends along so they can boast on social media they're at an F1 race, whilst knowing absolutely nothing about it other than it's the thing Lewis Hamilton does.

Tickets are sold at a ridiculous price to artificially give the impression of this being a special event on the calendar, despite it having only existed for two years and provided next to no memorable moments thus far (other than the time Martin Brundle mistook someone who wasn't Patrick Mahomes for being Patrick Mahomes, maybe).

And for that exorbitant price, the regular punter gets a crap view of a crap track that will probably produce a crap race that everyone knows the result of days in advance anyway. Yet, despite that, for the next few days the media will try to gaslight us into believing what an amazing, incredible, 'OMG totally stunning babes' event this really is.

Plus, to top it off, you can guarantee we'll see the now traditional over the top, utter cringe-fest of a build up to the race that for some reason F1 has to do every time it races in the USA, in some desperate "please like our sport!!!" message to people in America.

Think you missed that it's a sprint weekend as well.

[Grippy]

The politics at this race could be interesting as a cease-and-desist letter has just been issued to a Paddock Club Rooftop Suite hirer who was going to use it as a political fund-raiser at $250,000 a pop.

[BarryinIN]

I’m only looking forward to news, not the least about/from Andretti Global.

In my dream world, there will be a big announcement saying Andretti is in and this race is being moved to Indianapolis.
Hey, it’s my dream world. Leave me alone.

[paulb]

A couple folks from my crew in Vegas are marshaling at Miami. I look forward to what they say.

[loki]

Combined with all the booing for Max - I think you're right.

Well at least it has one positive…

[azza200]

It's lights out and away we go.... Max Verstappen has won the grand prix... the end 

[noikeee]

I know it's easy/trendy to dislike new things purely because they're new, but to my mind this race sums up everything that's wrong with F1 at the moment.

It's probably hard to explain, but it just feels so forced upon us and fake. There's nothing about this event that feels genuine, it's just a race that exists for the money men to invite their rich, insufferable millionaire/billionaire friends along so they can boast on social media they're at an F1 race, whilst knowing absolutely nothing about it other than it's the thing Lewis Hamilton does.

Tickets are sold at a ridiculous price to artificially give the impression of this being a special event on the calendar, despite it having only existed for two years and provided next to no memorable moments thus far (other than the time Martin Brundle mistook someone who wasn't Patrick Mahomes for being Patrick Mahomes, maybe).

And for that exorbitant price, the regular punter gets a crap view of a crap track that will probably produce a crap race that everyone knows the result of days in advance anyway. Yet, despite that, for the next few days the media will try to gaslight us into believing what an amazing, incredible, 'OMG totally stunning babes' event this really is.

Plus, to top it off, you can guarantee we'll see the now traditional over the top, utter cringe-fest of a build up to the race that for some reason F1 has to do every time it races in the USA, in some desperate "please like our sport!!!" message to people in America.

Yeah I personally don't necessarily hate the Netflixization of F1, but this event does seem to highlight the crap things about it particularly well.

As for "the track facilitates overtaking".. well.. does it matter? I personally don't care about that, and want flowing interesting layouts even if they come at the expense of sheer number of passes. The Suzukas of this world are so much more interesting than these forgettable, drawn in the middle of seas of tarmac circuits. I'd only open an exception to circuits that are *absurdly* pro-overtaking, such as Bahrain or modern Hockenheim, where the layout is so minimalistic and open and devoid of fiddly bits, it's really all about facilitating switchbacks and giving drivers opportunities for playing with the slipstream. That is kind of interesting on its own right. But this is NOT what this track is... 8th in the table of most passes last year.. cool, who gives a ****.

Edited by noikeee, 30 April 2024 - 00:40.

[nissan_gtp]

Blue Ferrari. Will it have just a little blue, or will they go all-in full blue? 

[Gary Davies]

I know it's easy/trendy to dislike new things purely because they're new, but to my mind this race sums up everything that's wrong with F1 at the moment. 

 

It's probably hard to explain, but it just feels so forced upon us and fake. There's nothing about this event that feels genuine, it's just a race that exists for the money men to invite their rich, insufferable millionaire/billionaire friends along so they can boast on social media they're at an F1 race, whilst knowing absolutely nothing about it other than it's the thing Lewis Hamilton does. 

 

Tickets are sold at a ridiculous price to artificially give the impression of this being a special event on the calendar, despite it having only existed for two years and provided next to no memorable moments thus far (other than the time Martin Brundle mistook someone who wasn't Patrick Mahomes for being Patrick Mahomes, maybe). 

 

And for that exorbitant price, the regular punter gets a crap view of a crap track that will probably produce a crap race that everyone knows the result of days in advance anyway. Yet, despite that, for the next few days the media will try to gaslight us into believing what an amazing, incredible, 'OMG totally stunning babes' event this really is. 

 

Plus, to top it off, you can guarantee we'll see the now traditional over the top, utter cringe-fest of a build up to the race that for some reason F1 has to do every time it races in the USA, in some desperate "please like our sport!!!" message to people in America. 

 

Singo, your post sums up well why so many see this entire, contrived event as rubbish. I will feel sympathy to Verstappen, amongst many of the other drivers, as they are paraded out before the attendees. Likewise, poor Martin Brundle (or whomever is obliged to go the gridwalk). Someone earlier commented "I expect Brundle to be cringe on the grid walk."

 

Not sure what that was attempting to communicate but we can be reasonably sure that Brundle will be cringing on the grid walk. 

[MikeTekRacing]

I attended it 2 years ago and it was a fantastically well organized event for fans

[vlado]

Blue Ferrari. Will it have just a little blue, or will they go all-in full blue? 

 

full on or I'm boycotting 

[loki]

Singo, your post sums up well why so many see this entire, contrived event as rubbish. I will feel sympathy to Verstappen, amongst many of the other drivers, as they are paraded out before the attendees. Likewise, poor Martin Brundle (or whomever is obliged to go the gridwalk). Someone earlier commented "I expect Brundle to be cringe on the grid walk."

 

Not sure what that was attempting to communicate but we can be reasonably sure that Brundle will be cringing on the grid walk. 

If you aren’t sure you’re not paying attention.  He’s disrespectful, rude, arrogant and self entitled.  He doesn’t know anything about the people he’s stalking and only recognizes them (except when he mistakes a rookie basketball player for a quarterback) because someone is telling him who they are in his IFB.  He stinks of entitled privilege and isn’t contemporary or relevant in US society. 

 

But other than that he’s OK…

[southernstars]

If you aren’t sure you’re not paying attention.  He’s disrespectful, rude, arrogant and self entitled.  He doesn’t know anything about the people he’s stalking and only recognizes them (except when he mistakes a rookie basketball player for a quarterback) because someone is telling him who they are in his IFB.  He stinks of entitled privilege and isn’t contemporary or relevant in US society. 

 

But other than that he’s OK…

 

lol, what is this rubbish? You're saying Martin Brundle should be sitting down reading up on every single B-list sports player, C-list "celebrity" and Z-list wannabe influencer that prances up and down the grid as if they're the stars of the show and not the drivers? 

 

If anything stinks of entitled privilege it's the vapid, shallow airheads that flood the grid and think they're so important.

 

The relevance of Martin Brundle to US "society" is irrelevant. Those types of people are not the audience. Martin is there for the F1 fans, and he is far more contemporary and relevant than those useless fools.

[Sparky68]

And Welcome to the Miami Grand Prix , it's a sell out. No not the attendance, the Sport!

[loki]

lol, what is this rubbish? You're saying Martin Brundle should be sitting down reading up on every single B-list sports player, C-list "celebrity" and Z-list wannabe influencer that prances up and down the grid as if they're the stars of the show and not the drivers? 

 

If anything stinks of entitled privilege it's the vapid, shallow airheads that flood the grid and think they're so important.

 

The relevance of Martin Brundle to US "society" is irrelevant. Those types of people are not the audience. Martin is there for the F1 fans, and he is far more contemporary and relevant than those useless fools.

Then he shouldn’t try so adamantly to get a comment from them.  It’s clear many perhaps most US celebs on the grid don’t wish to be bothered.  He’s the one instigating it.