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[KWSN - DSM]

Chapter 6 - Frentzen shines in carpet design ( https://twitter.com/...969369417625689 )

 

Very retro 1970ies vibe to the carpet.

[jcbc3]

He also did a nineties vibe one: https://magazin.spie...gel/pdf/8775939

[juicy sushi]

I think the best F1 movie to make, if you were going to do something based on a real driver, would be one stand-out race.  And I think if you do that, you need it to be at a photogenic track to make it suitably appealing.  So, nothing really recent at any of the Tilke carparks.  Monaco is cliche, but for a very good reason.  I think either there, Monza, Spa, or Suzuka, unless you want to go farther back in time than late-80s, as there aren't really any other good looking tracks left that feature a lot of recognizable stuff close to the track surface (Silverstone, layout aside, is visually really, really dull).

 

So I might suggest something like Suzuka 1999, Monaco 88, or 92, Spa 1997, or Monza 88 for example.  Going further back in time the choices open up, but it almost can make things trickier in terms of what story you want to tell, as well as perhaps making it a bigger challenge to recreate the feel of the track itself.

[KWSN - DSM]

I think the best F1 movie to make, if you were going to do something based on a real driver, would be one stand-out race.  And I think if you do that, you need it to be at a photogenic track to make it suitably appealing.  So, nothing really recent at any of the Tilke carparks.  Monaco is cliche, but for a very good reason.  I think either there, Monza, Spa, or Suzuka, unless you want to go farther back in time than late-80s, as there aren't really any other good looking tracks left that feature a lot of recognizable stuff close to the track surface (Silverstone, layout aside, is visually really, really dull).

 

So I might suggest something like Suzuka 1999, Monaco 88, or 92, Spa 1997, or Monza 88 for example.  Going further back in time the choices open up, but it almost can make things trickier in terms of what story you want to tell, as well as perhaps making it a bigger challenge to recreate the feel of the track itself.

 

Keke Rosberg Monaco 1983

 

Oliver Panis Monaco 1996

[juicy sushi]

Keke Rosberg Monaco 1983

 

Oliver Panis Monaco 1996

A couple of great stories to tell.

[Sterzo]

(Silverstone, layout aside, is visually really, really dull).

It is the Croydon of Grand Prix circuits.

[Nemo1965]

Niki Lauda. There’s still a great movie in his life. Rush was only redeemed partially by the excellent Daniel Brühl. For the rest…

And as Juicy said: one race to highlight the racers life. So Fuji 1976…

Edited by Nemo1965, 22 May 2024 - 16:33.

[Collombin]

I'd quite like a prequel to Frankenheimer's Grand Prix.

Roger Stoddard winning the WDC in a Lotus 16 is surely the greatest single achievement in motorsport history, and yet all I know about it is a painting.

[amerikalei]

I think the best F1 movie to make, if you were going to do something based on a real driver, would be one stand-out race.  And I think if you do that, you need it to be at a photogenic track to make it suitably appealing.  So, nothing really recent at any of the Tilke carparks.  Monaco is cliche, but for a very good reason.  I think either there, Monza, Spa, or Suzuka, unless you want to go farther back in time than late-80s, as there aren't really any other good looking tracks left that feature a lot of recognizable stuff close to the track surface (Silverstone, layout aside, is visually really, really dull).

 

So I might suggest something like Suzuka 1999, Monaco 88, or 92, Spa 1997, or Monza 88 for example.  Going further back in time the choices open up, but it almost can make things trickier in terms of what story you want to tell, as well as perhaps making it a bigger challenge to recreate the feel of the track itself.

Funny, I just read Richard Williams' "The Last Road Race", which would provide a strong framework for that sort of project.

[absinthedude]

Moss, Monaco 1961

 

Fangio, Nurburgring 1957

 

Graham Hill, Le Mans 1972

 

Nigel Mansell, Brands Hatch 1985 with a postscript about the floodgates opening, his WDC and IndyCar title

 

Peter Gethin, Monza 1971

 

Senna, Donington 1993

 

But the problem with an individual race is that each race lasts about as long as an average length movie...except for Le Mans. 

 

the Whittington Brothers!

 

How about a biopic on Bernie?

[Laptom]

Hawtorn

Prost

Lotus

Irvine

Rooney

Marquez

[Collombin]

Graham Hill, Le Mans 1972.........Nigel Mansell, Brands Hatch 1985 with a postscript about the floodgates opening, his WDC and IndyCar title...........But the problem with an individual race is that each race lasts about as long as an average length movie...except for Le Mans

I wouldn't want them to cover the whole day's racing at Brands, there was a truly horrific fatal accident in one of the support races.

Le Mans 1972 would no doubt vastly overegg the Triple Crown thing, but there's the tragic element there too, Hill being good friends with Jo Bonnier.

Edited by Collombin, 23 May 2024 - 09:47.

[ensign14]

Tommy Byrne film produced by Guy Ritchie

If Guy Ritchie were to do a film, it would have to be about someone like Vic Lee or Nick Whiting...

[Glengavel]

The rise of Hesketh Racing. Directed by Ken Loach.

[KWSN - DSM]

Moss, Monaco 1961

 

Fangio, Nurburgring 1957

 

Graham Hill, Le Mans 1972

 

Nigel Mansell, Brands Hatch 1985 with a postscript about the floodgates opening, his WDC and IndyCar title

 

Peter Gethin, Monza 1971

 

Senna, Donington 1993

 

But the problem with an individual race is that each race lasts about as long as an average length movie...except for Le Mans. 

 

the Whittington Brothers!

 

How about a biopic on Bernie?

 

The movie should not be the retelling of a race, it should be the telling of the preferably hard luck story of difficult start in lower classes, graduation with expectations, not delivering, having the day of days.... Gloss over rest of career, making the winning of the most famous race in the world the climactic end, a voiceover with no details can then wrap it up during the scrolling text, with various pictures mixed in, childhood, podiums, retirements, starts, ending in crossing the line, seeing the checkered flags as the winner.

 

FIN

[Risil]

Yeah, when I think about Le Mans 66, it was all going fantastically well until the race started, which didn't do it for me at all.

[Collombin]

And they could have corrected that myth about the ending but chose to print the legend instead.

[Risil]

And they could have corrected that myth about the ending but chose to print the legend instead.

I found the legend massively complicated and switched my brain off

[Collombin]

I suppose having the car that crossed the finish line first being declared the winner wasn't interesting enough.

[KWSN - DSM]

 "Against All Odds"

 

Act 1: The Unexpected Racer:

Olivier Pans grew up in a small Bretagne town with no ties to motorsport. His parents were teachers passionate about literature, far removed from the high-octane racing world. Olivier's life changed when a friend invited him to a local karting event in his late teens. The thrill and speed captivated him, and despite his late start, Olivier quickly showed an innate talent for racing. 

 

Act 2: The Climb to the Top:

Spurred on by the wins, few as they were, Oliver's journey was arduous, filled with financial struggles and limited support. Despite occasional wins, he couldn't secure a championship, racing all over the country on shoestring budgets for four years. Finally, it all came together, and he clinched the national F3 championship. His determination throughout the season earned him a spot in F3000, where to everyone's amazement, he won the Championship in his debut season.

 

Act 3: The F1 Dream:

At 27, Oliver graduated to Formula 1, joining Ligier, a team with a past battling for wins and championships, yet now fallen to the bottom of the grid, powered by the unfancied Mugen Honda, which had never won a race. Oliver showed flashes of brilliance from the start, but his true potential remained untapped. Ligier struggling to keep up with the new giants of the sport. Over the first two seasons, Liger saw Oliver as a beacon, a driver who could drag them towards the front again.

 

Act 4: The Monaco Miracle:

In his third season, Oliver started 14th on the grid at the Monaco Grand Prix. On a track where overtaking is notoriously difficult and challenging, the start was on a wet, slippery track; Oliver had his day of days, finally making a true mark on F1: daring overtakes, pinpoint precision on the treacherous circuit, and an impeccably timed pitstop, Oliver steadily climbed towards the front. With 25 laps to go, he took the lead, driving with caution and aggression, breaking away from his pursuers, gaining a larger and larger lead.

 

Act 5: The Final Ten Laps:

As the race neared its end, Oliver's lead dwindled. David Coulthard started closing in. The tension rising, the whole Ligier team stood together, some holding hands, watching the monitors, holding their breath, knowing how a win was at hand, knowing that of all places, winning at Monaco was the ultimate rose in the crown for a driver, for any team.

 

Oliver fought to maintain his lead, battling the car, seeking the last grip from the tires, straining as the laps counted down.

 

Act 6: The Unlikely Victory:

When the final lap arrived, Oliver was leading; Coulthard would not get close enough to challenge. Coulthard was on his tail, and Oliver was heading toward the checkered flag. The crowd erupted as Olivier crossed the finish line first, securing a historic victory for Ligier and Mugen Honda.

 

Ligier had not won in 14 years and now Olivier had raced their car to finally win again, cementing his place in motorsport history.

 

Epilogue: The Flower That Bloomed Once (Voice over)

The victory hailed as one of the greatest underdog stories in motorsport history seemed destined to be the beginning of a legendary career. Yet, the heights Oliver reached that day proved elusive. Olivier continued to race passionately and determined, but podium finishes became rare. Mechanical failures and strategic missteps often marred his performances, and the magic of Monaco seemed like a distant dream.

 

Oliver stepped away from Formula 1. The decision was bittersweet; the engines' roar and the race's thrill were hard to leave behind.

 

He found peace knowing he had tasted victory at the highest level, if only once. He had lived a moment of pure triumph, a day when everything aligned perfectly. The memory of that day, the feeling of standing on the podium with the world cheering, was a treasure that nothing could ever diminish.

 

In the quiet moments of his new life, Olivier often thought about how fleeting glory could be, like a flower that blooms brilliantly but briefly. Yet, there was an everlasting beauty and purity in that brief bloom. He had achieved his dream, even for a moment, and that was enough.

 

Closing Scene:

Still of Oliver holding the Tricolors high as he takes an honorary lap after his win, spectators jubilant, and the vanquished Coluthard in the background, reflecting Oliver's journey to become a victorious Formula 1 driver. The picture captures Monaco's grandeur, with the fans' cheers metaphorically echoing in the background.

 

 

FIN

[Sterzo]

How about a biopic on Bernie?

I'd like this idea, so long as the director was Rob Reiner who masterminded Spinal Tap.

[William Hunt]

For sure Achile Varzi and his drug infused relationship with Ilse Pietsch.

 

Varzi Vs Nuvolari is also a fun theme, it's the same theme as Coppi (Nuvolari) Vs Bartali (Varzi) which is also great source material for a movie

[William Hunt]

The rise of Hesketh Racing. Directed by Ken Loach.

I would actually go for Paolo Sorrentino as director, in the same style as La Grande Belezza.

https://www.imdb.com...ref_=nm_knf_t_3

 

Ken Loach can do a pic on Coloni or Osella with financial inequality as main theme.

Edited by William Hunt, 23 May 2024 - 18:07.

[KWSN - DSM]

I would actually go for Paolo Sorrentino as director, in the same style as La Grande Belezza.

https://www.imdb.com...ref_=nm_knf_t_3

 

Ken Loach can do a pic on Coloni or Osella with financial inequality as main theme.

 

[ivanalesi]

Zanardi & Gilles, but having read a few biographies of drivers from the years around the wars... Man, they lived on full throttle! The Bentley boys can be quite the movie!

[Bleu]

Not F1, but the story of last year in Dan Wheldon's life. 

[Otaku]

Nige

[Gambelli]

Fun fact: The Fly II was about Martin Brundle.

 

Ah yes, and the movie refrence  'Brundle Fly' was about his Albert Park crash in 1996!

[Gambelli]

How about a movie about Pete Aron?

 

Great story, fired by his team, no prospects, then picked up by a new manufacturer, together the pair progress towards the top despite the naysayers.

 

Add in some relationship drama, a tight championship battle, some tragedy, I reckon it would make the best racing movie of all time!

[Jackmancer]

Peter Collins and Mike Hawkthorn, together

[Nemo1965]

Peter Collins and Mike Hawkthorn, together

Title: Mon Ami Mate

[drionita]

Two plot, one F1-related and one not

- the strange career of Captain Zero, from bike racing to being Williams' spinning top to F1 top and then Budapest almost revenge

- Fangio's kidnap in Cuba and the Barbudos' Revolution

[Amphicar]

"The Connew Story" The Ealing comedy that never was

[Amphicar]

BRM - "Another fine mess you've gotten us into Stanley"

[Nemo1965]

 

 "Against All Odds"

 

Act 1: The Unexpected Racer:

Olivier Pans grew up in a small Bretagne town with no ties to motorsport. His parents were teachers passionate about literature, far removed from the high-octane racing world. Olivier's life changed when a friend invited him to a local karting event in his late teens. The thrill and speed captivated him, and despite his late start, Olivier quickly showed an innate talent for racing. 

 

Act 2: The Climb to the Top:

Spurred on by the wins, few as they were, Oliver's journey was arduous, filled with financial struggles and limited support. Despite occasional wins, he couldn't secure a championship, racing all over the country on shoestring budgets for four years. Finally, it all came together, and he clinched the national F3 championship. His determination throughout the season earned him a spot in F3000, where to everyone's amazement, he won the Championship in his debut season.

 

Act 3: The F1 Dream:

At 27, Oliver graduated to Formula 1, joining Ligier, a team with a past battling for wins and championships, yet now fallen to the bottom of the grid, powered by the unfancied Mugen Honda, which had never won a race. Oliver showed flashes of brilliance from the start, but his true potential remained untapped. Ligier struggling to keep up with the new giants of the sport. Over the first two seasons, Liger saw Oliver as a beacon, a driver who could drag them towards the front again.

 

Act 4: The Monaco Miracle:

In his third season, Oliver started 14th on the grid at the Monaco Grand Prix. On a track where overtaking is notoriously difficult and challenging, the start was on a wet, slippery track; Oliver had his day of days, finally making a true mark on F1: daring overtakes, pinpoint precision on the treacherous circuit, and an impeccably timed pitstop, Oliver steadily climbed towards the front. With 25 laps to go, he took the lead, driving with caution and aggression, breaking away from his pursuers, gaining a larger and larger lead.

 

Act 5: The Final Ten Laps:

As the race neared its end, Oliver's lead dwindled. David Coulthard started closing in. The tension rising, the whole Ligier team stood together, some holding hands, watching the monitors, holding their breath, knowing how a win was at hand, knowing that of all places, winning at Monaco was the ultimate rose in the crown for a driver, for any team.

 

Oliver fought to maintain his lead, battling the car, seeking the last grip from the tires, straining as the laps counted down.

 

Act 6: The Unlikely Victory:

When the final lap arrived, Oliver was leading; Coulthard would not get close enough to challenge. Coulthard was on his tail, and Oliver was heading toward the checkered flag. The crowd erupted as Olivier crossed the finish line first, securing a historic victory for Ligier and Mugen Honda.

 

Ligier had not won in 14 years and now Olivier had raced their car to finally win again, cementing his place in motorsport history.

 

Epilogue: The Flower That Bloomed Once (Voice over)

The victory hailed as one of the greatest underdog stories in motorsport history seemed destined to be the beginning of a legendary career. Yet, the heights Oliver reached that day proved elusive. Olivier continued to race passionately and determined, but podium finishes became rare. Mechanical failures and strategic missteps often marred his performances, and the magic of Monaco seemed like a distant dream.

 

Oliver stepped away from Formula 1. The decision was bittersweet; the engines' roar and the race's thrill were hard to leave behind.

 

He found peace knowing he had tasted victory at the highest level, if only once. He had lived a moment of pure triumph, a day when everything aligned perfectly. The memory of that day, the feeling of standing on the podium with the world cheering, was a treasure that nothing could ever diminish.

 

In the quiet moments of his new life, Olivier often thought about how fleeting glory could be, like a flower that blooms brilliantly but briefly. Yet, there was an everlasting beauty and purity in that brief bloom. He had achieved his dream, even for a moment, and that was enough.

 

Closing Scene:

Still of Oliver holding the Tricolors high as he takes an honorary lap after his win, spectators jubilant, and the vanquished Coluthard in the background, reflecting Oliver's journey to become a victorious Formula 1 driver. The picture captures Monaco's grandeur, with the fans' cheers metaphorically echoing in the background.

 

 

FIN

 

 

Great story... but wasn't Panis accident in Canada back then (where he broke his leg) the ultimate reason he lost the edge? Or, even if that was not true, should a Hollywood-sentimental-script not use it to its advantage?

[kumo7]

i do also think Francoise Cevert makes an attractive story. he us absolutely mysterious, been regarded as the next big asset, praised and…

Edited by kumo7, 05 October 2024 - 08:53.