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…. Accurate scoring?
Edited by FirstnameLastname, 28 May 2024 - 18:12.
Posted 28 May 2024 - 18:39
On what planet are the ratios giving 99 percent experience to Alonso and 78 for Leclerc, 80 for Stroll etc.
E.P ic fail. It's in the game.
Posted 28 May 2024 - 18:44
On what planet are the ratios giving 99 percent experience to Alonso and 78 for Leclerc, 80 for Stroll etc.
E.P ic fail. It's in the game.
Experience is the least controversial stat here. I think it's based on objective measure of how many seasons of experience in F1 each driver has.
Overall, I don't think the stats are too bad. IMO Alonso, Sainz and Perez slightly overrated (maybe Albon too) and Ricciardo should not be ahead of Tsunoda and maybe a bit harsh on Sargeant to be 10 points fewer than the next driver but overall it's not too bad. Only needs minor adjustments to be 100% accurate.
Posted 28 May 2024 - 20:27
Posted 28 May 2024 - 20:32
Edited by messy, 28 May 2024 - 20:32.
Posted 28 May 2024 - 21:08
I'd swap Hulk and Perez.
Piastri seems a bit low as well.
Edited by BoDarvelle, 28 May 2024 - 21:08.
Posted 28 May 2024 - 23:42
LOL, Stroll better awareness and racecraft than Tsunoda! In fact equal to or better than 8 drivers in the field on racecraft!
There's a lot of things that are clearly wrong, but that's subjective right? I'm sure we'd all change dozens of those metrics and we'd all still be totally different to each other.
Standouts quickly for me, other than the Stroll thing are, Perez too high, Carlos a bit too high, Piastri a bit too low, Yuki too low. I wouldn't mind betting if these were redone now, rather than perhaps a month or two ago, those four drivers in particular would be tweaked somewhat, and Danny Ric dropped a bit too
Posted 28 May 2024 - 23:56
I wouldn't mind betting if these were redone now, rather than perhaps a month or two ago, those four drivers in particular would be tweaked somewhat, and Danny Ric dropped a bit too
but see, that's exactly what's wrong with these ratings.
You end up as good as your last race(s) and talent clearly doesn't change that much.
Posted 29 May 2024 - 05:40
but see, that's exactly what's wrong with these ratings.
You end up as good as your last race(s) and talent clearly doesn't change that much.
Agreed, but in this instance I think that they were most likely doen before everyone settled into the season and trends developed, so we are left with an outdated, and distorted model.
Yes there will always be swings of form, but the bigger the sample size to work with the better....
Posted 29 May 2024 - 06:03
I would go with this for right now (making full use of the range):
Verstappen - 96
Norris - 88
Leclerc - 85
Russell - 81
Alonso - 79
Hamilton - 78
Sainz - 75
Piastri - 70
Ocon - 65
Hulkenberg - 63
Bottas - 61
Gasly - 60
Albon - 58
Tsunoda - 55
Perez - 51
Ricciardo - 45
Magnussen - 38
Zhou - 29
Stroll - 26
Sargeant - 12
Posted 29 May 2024 - 06:07
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…. Accurate scoring?
Posted 29 May 2024 - 06:33
What do they actually mean by awareness?
Is it how aware people are of that driver, i.e. how famous they are?
If so how in anyone's opinion is Lewis lower than Valtteri, I get Guanyu being high because of China but Hulkenberg? Or is this purely based on Drive to Survive stats?
Posted 29 May 2024 - 06:37
These ratings are nothing more than a generalization of something that is not measurable in any way.
Posted 29 May 2024 - 07:15
Released simply to cause debate and discussion about the game.
Posted 29 May 2024 - 07:46
but see, that's exactly what's wrong with these ratings.
You end up as good as your last race(s) and talent clearly doesn't change that much.
Posted 29 May 2024 - 07:49
These ratings are nothing more than a generalization of something that is not measurable in any way.
Posted 29 May 2024 - 08:40
What do they actually mean by awareness?
Is it how aware people are of that driver, i.e. how famous they are?
If so how in anyone's opinion is Lewis lower than Valtteri, I get Guanyu being high because of China but Hulkenberg? Or is this purely based on Drive to Survive stats?
I genuinely LOL'D at this. Good point.
I assumed it's obviously driving (spatial) awareness, but now you got me thinking...
If it was popularity then that would be far too subjective, and difficult to do on a global platform.
Edited by danmills, 29 May 2024 - 08:41.
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Posted 29 May 2024 - 08:42
How do you program experience?They might not be measurable, but they have to be programmable.
Posted 29 May 2024 - 09:04
How do you program experience?
Less chance of crashing into other cars or binning it into a wall, one would think.
Posted 29 May 2024 - 09:06
How do you program experience?
Or personality. Like Ocon his proneness of driving into teammates?
Posted 29 May 2024 - 09:13
How do you program experience?
Posted 29 May 2024 - 09:16
What do they actually mean by awareness?
From the official game website.
RTG The most important number on the grid.
A combination of all driver stats that lays out each driver's ability within F1® 24.
RAC The masters of the overtake.Racecraft describes a driver's ability to work their way through the pack to finish the race higher up than where they started.
EXP Experience counts here.This stat has been amended this year to determine how much value each race result contributes to the driver's experience in the earlier and mid stages of their career. Fernando Alonso's record of race starts is used as the max points for the experience rating, sitting at 99 points.
PAC Turning the timing screens purplePace rewards the drivers who get closest to the fastest Race and Qualifying lap times as well as the difference to their team mates.
AWA Time Penalties cost wins.Awareness rewards drivers who avoid the stewards' room. And for the ones that don't, the severity of errors now counts more towards their Awareness rating.
Posted 29 May 2024 - 09:35
I would go with this for right now (making full use of the range):
Verstappen - 96
Norris - 88
Leclerc - 85
Russell - 81
Alonso - 79
Hamilton - 78
Sainz - 75
Piastri - 70
Ocon - 65
Hulkenberg - 63
Bottas - 61
Gasly - 60
Albon - 58
Tsunoda - 55
Perez - 51
Ricciardo - 45
Magnussen - 38
Zhou - 29
Stroll - 26
Sargeant - 12
Posted 29 May 2024 - 10:08
Somehow you managed to make earrings even worse than the official ones!
Posted 29 May 2024 - 10:12
Well I meant in terms of what difference it makes in the game.Probably the easiest one. Proportional to years in the sport.
Posted 29 May 2024 - 10:27
Well I meant in terms of what difference it makes in the game.
Posted 29 May 2024 - 10:29
Well, this is stupid. The whole point of Top Trumps is to make a game which involves some degree of skill. For that to happen you need a variety of scores, not everything in the 80s or 90s, and a card like Verstappen's which is unbeatable in 3 of the 4 categories is a game-breaker. Even in Star Wars Spacecraft they made sure that e.g. the Death Star was crippled by a hideously low speed.
Should have put in a category like Fairness On Track. That would at least have meant low scores for a good few.
Posted 29 May 2024 - 10:34
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