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#1 FlyingSaucer

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Posted 12 June 2024 - 14:50

Does anyone know where to find a copy of this document, in PDF? Tbh, my question should be, this document was ever made public?

 

I found the 1997 version of the agreement online, but I was looking for the first and original version of it. 



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#2 Vitesse2

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Posted 12 June 2024 - 16:12

According to Mattijs Diepraam's analysis:

 

... it was decided not to disclose the precise contents of the Concorde Agreement ...

So, implicitly, it was never published.



#3 FlyingSaucer

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Posted 12 June 2024 - 16:28

According to Mattijs Diepraam's analysis:

So, implicitly, it was never published.

 

Well, I feel embarrassed now. I constantly publish articles with Mattijs and Forix, and I never read this article kkkkkkk. 

 

So, no one outside the F1 circus knows exactly what is written in any of these agreements, besides the general lines? 

 

Damn, so, if this copy of the 97 agreement I have is real, I got something that is good starting point for what I'm looking for (the relation between teams, manufacturers and the F.I.A., regarding private-entries and third-parties in F1 races)

 

WikiLeaks, here we go  :stoned:


Edited by FlyingSaucer, 12 June 2024 - 16:30.


#4 NCB619

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Posted 13 June 2024 - 01:14

Well, I feel embarrassed now. I constantly publish articles with Mattijs and Forix, and I never read this article kkkkkkk. 

 

So, no one outside the F1 circus knows exactly what is written in any of these agreements, besides the general lines? 

 

Damn, so, if this copy of the 97 agreement I have is real, I got something that is good starting point for what I'm looking for (the relation between teams, manufacturers and the F.I.A., regarding private-entries and third-parties in F1 races)

 

WikiLeaks, here we go  :stoned:

Yes, that's about the only one that's out in public.

Years ago at uni, was doing a presentation/report on Sports Governance and funding, and was assigned Formula 1, so that document was a big, big help



#5 Kvadrat

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Posted 13 June 2024 - 08:35

As far as I know the first Concorde Agreement was created in 1982. 1981 was Formula One series birth year. It was created by FIA to make all FOCA contracts with organizers and TV companies non-valid. It took a year in this new state of championship to figure out different scheme of taking as much money out of racing as possible.



#6 FlyingSaucer

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Posted 14 June 2024 - 17:15

As far as I know the first Concorde Agreement was created in 1982. 1981 was Formula One series birth year. It was created by FIA to make all FOCA contracts with organizers and TV companies non-valid. It took a year in this new state of championship to figure out different scheme of taking as much money out of racing as possible.

 

Ye, but for practical terms, it's the 1981 Agreement. If I'm not mistaken, it was signed early in 81, but it would only take effect on 1982 onwards. 

 

But I understand what u are talking about. I just wish we could get our hands on these documents (at least some of them) - F1 talks a lot about transparency, but the main document that could actually give a meaning to this word is always locked in a secret vault, out of reach. Even the old versions of these Agreements, which never reached anyone outside the restricted circle of F1. 

 

I read the 1997 version and didn't find it nothing that deserves to be "top secret" - what is in these other documents that is so confidential? Prize values, managers playing with power, shell companies??? C'mon...