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#1 LolaB0860

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Posted 19 June 2024 - 16:45

It's start of another triple-header folks. Barcelona might not with us for that much longer - unless something miraculous happens - and it's also sort of lost some of it's old fame as the starting point for big Euro upgrades, now that it's so "late" in the season. Nevertheless, it's old school circuit that many still like. AND there are updates plenty. Is it back to Verstappen domination / Perez humilation or something else? Welcome to the Spanish GP.

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CIRCUIT & CHANGES
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WEATHER

Well, these folks currently say:
https://raceweather....lona-catalunya/

June 21st
Sunny. High around 79F (26C). Low around 63F (17C). North Northeast winds around 5-10 MPH (8-16 KPH).

June 22nd
Mostly Sunny. High around 81F (27C). Low around 63F (17C). South West winds around 10-15 MPH (16-24 KPH).

June 23rd
Rain showers. High around 74F (23C). Low around 62F (17C). South East winds around 5-10 MPH (8-16 KPH). Chance of Rain 60%.


CAR UPGRADES

McLaren: https://www.motorspo...still/10622541/
Mercedes: https://www.motorspo...ccess/10622057/
Ferrari: https://formu1a.uno/...the-spanish-gp/
Haas: https://formu1a.uno/...luate-upgrades/
Toro RB Cash Scam: https://formu1a.uno/...-at-spanish-gp/
Sauber: https://formu1a.uno/...pdate-in-spain/
(Vague for) Red Bull: https://www.gpblog.c...a-gp-spain.html
(No updates for) Renault: https://www.motorspo...lpine/10624681/
(Looks like nothing really for) Force Aston: https://gptoday.com/...updates_teased/
Williams ?


PIRELLI OFFERINGS WHATEVER
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SCHEDULE

Time-zones:
https://www.formula1...cing/2024/spain

Full local schedule with nonsense removed:

FRIDAY 21st JUNE
08:50 - 09:30 F1 Academy - Practice
09:55 - 10:40 FIA Formula 3 - Practice
11:05 - 11:50 FIA Formula 2 - Practice
13:30 - 14:30 FIA Formula 1 - Practice 1
15:00 - 15:30 FIA Formula 3 - Qualifying
15:55 - 16:25 FIA Formula 2 - Qualifying
17:00 - 18:00 FIA Formula 1 - Practice 2
18:30 - 19:00 F1 Academy - Qualifying

SATURDAY 22nd JUNE
10:40 - 11:25 FIA Formula 3 - Race 1 (21L/40min)
12:30 - 13:30 FIA Formula 1 - Practice 3
14:15 - 15:05 FIA Formula 2 - Race 1 (26L/45min)
16:00 - 17:00 FIA Formula 1 - Qualifying
18:00 - 18:35 F1 Academy - Race 1 (16L/30min)

SUNDAY 23rd JUNE

08:50 - 09:25 F1 Academy - Race 2 (16L/30min)
10:05 - 10:55 FIA Formula 3 - Race 2 (25L/45min)
11:35 - 12:40 FIA Formula 2 - Race 2 (37L/60min)
15:00 - 17:00 FIA Formula 1 - Spanish Grand Prix (66L/120min)


SUPPORT RACES

The usual F2-F3 Euro gang minus Porsche Supercup, traded in for Academy

F1 Academy is live streamed here (links not yet there)
https://www.youtube....academy/streams

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Edited by LolaB0860, 19 June 2024 - 21:58.


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#2 Alfisti

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Posted 19 June 2024 - 16:51

The most important race since Bahrain 2022. 



#3 Yoshi

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Posted 19 June 2024 - 17:16

A dry weekend please - thank you :up:

Edited by Yoshi, 19 June 2024 - 17:18.


#4 Lurb

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Posted 19 June 2024 - 17:24

A dry weekend please - thank you :up:

 

 

:wave: Current prediction is 90% chance of rain for Sunday



#5 LolaB0860

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Posted 19 June 2024 - 17:52

At least it's not the horrifying 40+ celsius inferno they have in southeastern Europe... pure luck it's not there now


Edited by LolaB0860, 19 June 2024 - 17:53.


#6 Nemo1965

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Posted 19 June 2024 - 18:50

I will say it every time: if we can race at Baku, why not return to Montjuich?



#7 WouterF1

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Posted 19 June 2024 - 19:24

A dry weekend please - thank you :up:

 

 

:wave: Current prediction is 90% chance of rain for Sunday

Every weather site says Sunday chance of rain in the early morning, NOT in the afternoon.



#8 DeKnyff

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Posted 19 June 2024 - 20:03

I will say it every time: if we can race at Baku, why not return to Montjuich?


Apart from the obvious technical difficulties, I don’t think there would be any political support for it.

#9 taffer

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Posted 19 June 2024 - 20:43

They actually did quite a road show today in Barcelona city center with some drivers and cars having fun in Passeig de Gràcia street (wide and nowadays very very tourist oriented avenue with kind of 'high level' boutiques). Among others, Sainz was driving a 2022 Ferrari and Doohan a V8 2012 Renault/Lotus in disguise. It was quite a success together with the different F1 related exhibitions and activities they've been running during the last days in the area.

 

Living close to BCN but having to go there to work from the office today, I made sure to stay as far as possible from those streets, as my threshold for crowds is quite low these days. :drunk:


Edited by taffer, 19 June 2024 - 20:44.


#10 JimmyClark

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Posted 19 June 2024 - 21:59

Every weather site says Sunday chance of rain in the early morning, NOT in the afternoon.


Will hopefully mean a green track though so a bit of tyre strategy variance.

#11 Autodromo

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Posted 19 June 2024 - 23:44

This circuit map always reminds me of someone flexing their muscles.  Let's see how everyone does with high-speed corners after all the upgrades!



#12 JeanAlesi27

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 01:51

Toro RB Cash Scam

 

 

Meh,  why you writing this?



#13 RekF1

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 01:57

Did Alpine use an AI generator for their poster, or have I missed the joke?

#14 teejay

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 02:19

:wave: Current prediction is 90% chance of rain for Sunday

 

 

Does the rain in Spain all mainly on the plain? 



#15 404KF2

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 02:29

That city is quite planar......bring on the rain, it's the only thing that makes F1 tolerable these days.



#16 lewislorenzo

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 05:17

After the last few races will probably a Max snoozefest with RB back in its element

#17 LolaB0860

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 05:33

Meh, why you writing this?


I don't ever remember their name

And when someone calls it just RB I just think of the main team

#18 Beri

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 05:51

We'd all better prepare for a Red Bull 1-2. Normal track, dry circumstances, no excessively high kerbs, weather variables in the window.. yep this suits Red Bull.



#19 LolaB0860

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 05:53

We'd all better prepare for a Red Bull 1-2. Normal track, dry circumstances, no excessively high kerbs, weather variables in the window.. yep this suits Red Bull.


Well, we can prepare for Red Bull 1-4 or 1-5 at least.

Edited by LolaB0860, 20 June 2024 - 05:53.


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#20 Beri

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 05:55

I was talking about Perez 1st and Verstappen 2nd  :p



#21 Goron3

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 06:50

Rain looks likely overnight and into Sunday AM. Bring on a green track. At the very least should be a 2-3 stopper with a mix of strategy.

The field spread here was small over one lap last year. Assuming everyone can now take the final corner flat out, the gaps should be even smaller this year.

#22 sportyskells

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 07:48

At least this time all the predictions on the weather front is on a Wednesday not a Monday let’s wait and see should we?



#23 TauriJ

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 08:44

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#24 LegendInTheMaking

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 09:04

To some, Barcelona is considered a bit of a boring circuit with a lack of overtaking. However, there has been a lot of memorable action going on:

 

The famous battle of Senna and Mansell in 1991.

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Schumacher establishing himself as the Rainmeister in 1996:

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Hakkinen lost a certain win in 2001 due to an engine failure in the last lap. DC served as a local taxi driver to bring him home.

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Unforgettable: Maldonado took his only win in 2012:

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Alonso's last win to date in 2013:

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In 2016 the crash of Hamilton and Rosberg allowed Verstappen to take his maiden win.

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In recent years, we have been short of outstanding moments. Will this weekend be different?



#25 Ruusperi

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 09:05

So at least FA, F3 and F2 will be wet?



#26 MortenF1

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 09:12

1.7mm is nothing. It’s probably no more than what the fragments in the tarmac can swallow.

#27 Beri

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 09:47

Alonso's last win to date in 2013:
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That in itself is staggering.

#28 Ruusperi

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 10:29


In recent years, we have been short of outstanding moments. Will this weekend be different?

You dare to forget Jimmy Jump?!
https://www.youtube....h?v=TT8LocTr2-g

#29 Gambelli

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 11:26

At least it's not the horrifying 40+ celsius inferno they have in southeastern Europe... pure luck it's not there now

 

I have been in Egpyt for 8 days, and the coldest of those days was 44 degrees!  Nearly every day has been 46 degrees, further down south, Luxor, Aswan, overnight temp hits a minimum of 31 degrees at the moment.  It's so odd being somewhere where it's 40 degrees at 9pm but it feels totally comfortable as the sun is down!!!!

 

Imagine Pirelli coping with a race run here.... though there is a new bridge opening across the Nile in Aswan in the next few days that would make an amazing part of a Egypt street track!!!



#30 southernstars

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 11:37

i could happily trade a few of these degrees...it was -5 last night.



#31 DeKnyff

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 11:57

IMO, the two most memorable Spanish GP were those of 1951 and 1981.

 

In 1951, the race was held at the Pedralbes urban track in Barcelona (not related to the later Montjüic track). It was the last race of the season and the title decider. Fangio (Alfa Romeo, in the image below) beat Ascari (Ferrari) thanks to a better tyre strategy. You know, the importance of tyre strategies is not a modern concept in F1...

 

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The 1981 Spanish GP (the last year when the GP was held at the Jarama track, near Madrid) was the last F1 win of Gilles Villeneuve. He took a great start, jumping from P7 on the grid to P2 behind Jones, he inherited the lead when Jones went off track and managed to keep it thanks to his top speed, despite being much slower on the twisty parts of the track. He built a train behind him, with five cars in slightly more than one second, one of the closest finishes in the history of F1.

 

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#32 PayasYouRace

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 13:47

1986 was pretty memorable too.

#33 Brian60

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 16:15

Does the rain in Spain all mainly on the plain? 

Nope. I'm 3 hours south of Barca and I can say up here in the mountains it has been a veritable flood of Noah's Ark proportions the last week!



#34 eibyyz

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 16:46

 

 

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Man, I'd forgotten that Talbot was a thing!



#35 ckolcz

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 16:49

One of my favourite liveries in F1. Used to rock them as my PC wallpaper for a long long time.



#36 WouterF1

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 18:00

 

 

Tobi Grüner (on Twitter/X)

 

We hear RB will bring the biggest upgrade of the season to Barcelona:

 

new bodywork, new floor, new sidepods, new rear wing.

 

Will it be enough to close the gap to Aston Martin?

 

https://x.com/tgruen...384328367288364

 

https://www.auto-mot...ona-toro-rosso/

 

 

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#37 LolaB0860

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 18:16

Probably, since by the looks of it AM is bringing nothing new here? Alonso also sounded depressed in an interview

 

And on speed Tsunoda was already as fast or faster than them


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#38 Nemo1965

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 21:07

Man, I'd forgotten that Talbot was a thing!


And Jacques was too, at Jarama. Pole-position in 1979, 1980 and 1981. He never won it…

#39 FirstnameLastname

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 21:08

Apparently there will be ‘big news’ tomorrow…

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#40 krapmeister

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Posted 20 June 2024 - 22:28

Apparently there will be ‘big news’ tomorrow…


Probably just Stroll confirmed at AM...

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#41 Myrvold

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 00:36

Probably just Stroll confirmed at AM...

 

Or the Madrid race being off, Barcelona getting 10 new years.



#42 rodlamas

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 01:39

Apparently there will be ‘big news’ tomorrow…


Sainz to Williams. It is already all over the place.

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 02:11

So a Sainz/Sargeant pairing at Williams?…



#44 Nemo1965

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 05:08

Apparently there will be ‘big news’ tomorrow…


Gianpiero Lambiase will drive for Red Bull, coached by Max on the pit wall:

https://youtu.be/n95...p7rMAZQZLsZwVAC

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 08:02

1986 was pretty memorable too.

 

First time I went to a Grand Prix. :clap:  :clap:

 

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 08:19

Or the Madrid race being off, Barcelona getting 10 new years.

 

Doubt.

 

Barcelona & Catalonia goverment is not much interested in F1. Meanwhile Madrid goverment is the opposite. It´s said that F1 fee offer from Madrid almost double the Barcelona one.

 

It´s a shame , TBH, assisting Spain GP in Montmelo was very special, being with Asturians and (I don´t know why) some bunch of Finnish people in pelousse of Campsa turn. It was fantasitic because you could find some or less the same people.

 

And I live near Madrid, and I will assist,  but the possibility for not well-off  people to see F1 in Madrid will be low.



#47 TauriJ

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 08:27

#F1 #BBCF1 #SPANISHGP FRI: Effectively dry conditions expected today & Sat with just a very low risk of a shower PM; max 25-26C. Sunday AM liable to see some rain, expected to decrease before race; 23C. Current FIA rain risks: FP1, FP2, FP3, Q all <20%; on Sun, 60% 12pm, 40% 3pm.



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Posted 21 June 2024 - 09:34

Apparently there will be ‘big news’ tomorrow…


Think that was the Flávio announcement

#49 LolaB0860

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 10:16

Or the Madrid race being off, Barcelona getting 10 new years.

 

Doubt.

 

Barcelona & Catalonia goverment is not much interested in F1. Meanwhile Madrid goverment is the opposite. It´s said that F1 fee offer from Madrid almost double the Barcelona one.

 

It´s a shame , TBH, assisting Spain GP in Montmelo was very special, being with Asturians and (I don´t know why) some bunch of Finnish people in pelousse of Campsa turn. It was fantasitic because you could find some or less the same people.

 

And I live near Madrid, and I will assist,  but the possibility for not well-off  people to see F1 in Madrid will be low.

 

Ahhhhhhhhh, the excitement for the inaugural Madrid street night race... I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air...



#50 vlado

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 11:11

So a Sainz/Sargeant pairing at Williams?…


Sainz can finally be a clear number 1 !