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Briatore is back. Alpine announces Flavio Briatore as executive advisor


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#1 efuloni

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 07:56

So, this is it.

What do we think about it?

I think he did the time and has the right to come back. But I also think it means a lot if a team hires someone with his past.

Alpine seems to be going some weird ways.

Link: https://x.com/Alpine...Aaq3orvSCQ&s=19

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#2 Frood

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 07:58

Personally I think he's a corrupt chancer well past his sell-by-date who has no place in a modern F1 team.

#3 pacificquay

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 08:02

Seems like a desperate attempt to recapture the spirit of 20-30 years ago, but those were (largely thankfully) different times



#4 absinthedude

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 08:06

Flav had the nous, in the past, to understand where his own limitations were and hire the right people. Whether he still has that, is highly debatable. Could be desperation from Alpine, who do lack direction. Flav will give them direction, only time will tell if he still has the magic tough.

His past hasn't really been atoned for in my book. I think he's still dishonest at heart. But also probably clever enough not to do anything too stupid. 



#5 Dara

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 08:16

Great, now *that* picture is back on my mind.
Thanks for that. Right in front of my salad .

#6 1player

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 08:26

Alpine are at the "throw **** at the wall and see what sticks" phase. Next is hiring a clairvoyant.



#7 danmills

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 08:31

Too easy to jump on the hate bandwagon. 

 

Flavio was magic, and I hope he still has it and we notice an immediate impact. I give it the end of the season and he's back on the pitwall fully at the helm.

 

F1 is very different today, I am not sure the clinical nature will allow his old school tentacles to tickle the underbelly of modern F1 as it once did.

 

I really hope he makes it!



#8 Joseki

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 08:33

Briatore is more competent and a bigger proven winner than 15 of the dudes Alpine fired in the past 4 years.



#9 SCUDmissile

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 08:33

He can come back but the F1 he was involved in is not the F1 of now.

Let's see how he adapts

#10 baddog

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 08:48

Hard to imagine what he could possibly offer, unless he has business/buddy connections they want to exploit.



#11 GreenMachine

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 08:53

They are putting the band back together  :clap:  :up:

 

Nelson Jnr and Ferdy will be the next to be announced, the glory days are just around the corner!!  :cool:  :wave:



#12 Laster

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 08:54

Ughhhhhh...
Bringing back the guy who instigated cheating in Singapore 2008 doesn't strike me as a great deal especially when associated with the same team and brand. A quick way to bring up one of the reasons why Renault dumped their F1 team in 2009.

#13 Jackmancer

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 08:57

This feels like one of TV series that continue for too long and suddenly the old villain is back.



#14 danmills

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 09:00

F1 fans are very narrow sighted and vilify Flavio over Singapore. Refresh yourselves of invincible heroes Schumacher and Sennas antics, spygate etc.

 

The common denominator in those other three examples is that none of those three are able to defend themselves.

 

Untouchable and that is set in stone for eternity.

 

Flavio did his time for the crime. We move onwards.

 

If Senna and Schumachers misdemeanours can be overshadowed by their titles, then so too can Flavios back to back doubles. One rule for ALL.


Edited by danmills, 21 June 2024 - 09:02.


#15 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 09:11

Next stop Adrian Newey?

#16 Risil

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 09:12

F1 is very different today, I am not sure the clinical nature will allow his old school tentacles to tickle the underbelly of modern F1 as it once did.

I'm making a citizens' arrest on suspicion of crimes against metaphors. Off to jail with you!

#17 Sash1

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 10:14

He will fill his pockets.



#18 Anuity

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 10:21

Good for Alpine. 
a shady personality, but he knows how to get things done.



#19 LolaB0860

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 10:23

This feels like one of TV series that continue for too long and suddenly the old villain is back.

 

Yes after they killed off the character 15 years ago but now he's just there

 

What's next, introducing Bernard Charles Ecclestone as Junior Financial Advisor



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#20 Anuity

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 10:25

Unlike TV series, real,world doesn’t function quite like that. Which is also nice to see.



#21 ATM

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 10:25

Aren't there any other leaders from the current teams which they could hire?
And what is an executive advisor anyway? Is he above or bellow Famin?

#22 Sabre1977

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 10:29

Yes after they killed off the character 15 years ago but now he's just there

 

What's next, introducing Bernard Charles Ecclestone as Junior Financial Advisor

 

John Barnard or Gordon Murray as Junior technical advisor.



#23 Sterzo

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 10:30

I'm making a citizens' arrest on suspicion of crimes against metaphors. Off to jail with you!

I'm over the moon that you're putting your best foot forward for a blue skies land of dreams where metaphors are avoided like the plague.
 



#24 Stoffel

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 10:31

If F1 itself can hire Pat Symonds after Crashgate I don't have a problem with Flavio returning to Alpine/Renault.



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Posted 21 June 2024 - 10:36

I wonder whether this has been signed on Flav's boat... 

 

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Well, it can't be signed on this particular boat as it gave Flav some legal troubles although he might be able to rent it himself instead of illegally charting it to others.


Edited by LegendInTheMaking, 21 June 2024 - 11:33.


#26 ATM

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 10:41

Bummer, I was hoping not to see it this time. Can we put it in hidden link or something?

#27 krapmeister

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 10:43

I think posting those pics results in an immediate ban, no?

Edited by krapmeister, 21 June 2024 - 10:43.


#28 FLB

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 10:52

What's always amazed me about Flavio is that *this* is the guy who convinced Luciano Benetton into F1 in the first place:

 

Davide Paolini and his love for Florence and cuisine (firenzemadeintuscany.com)

 

 

Flavio stayed in F1 even after Benetton got out.


Edited by FLB, 21 June 2024 - 10:53.


#29 Nobody

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 11:05

I'm sure we could find a spot for Nigel Stepney to come back as well, if he wasn't dead

#30 pdac

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 11:09

Exactly what do they think a 74 year-old whose been out of F1 for years can bring to the team?



#31 GreenMachine

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 11:10

I'm sure we could find a spot for Nigel Stepney to come back as well, if he wasn't dead

 

Would they notice? :(



#32 Disgrace

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 11:12

Ughhhhhh...
Bringing back the guy who instigated cheating in Singapore 2008 doesn't strike me as a great deal especially when associated with the same team and brand. A quick way to bring up one of the reasons why Renault dumped their F1 team in 2009.

 

What's the difference between Briatore and Symonds in this case? Does Symonds get a pass?



#33 PlatenGlass

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 11:15

What's the difference between Briatore and Symonds in this case? Does Symonds get a pass?

I think Briatore is seen by a lot of people as just as unpleasant person in general and so quite a few people were happy that the Singapore incident happened in that respect.

#34 cbo

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 11:22

Exactly what do they think a 74 year-old whose been out of F1 for years can bring to the team?


Clicks, comments and a few more minutes of airtime on Netflix Drive to Survive.

#35 jcbc3

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 11:27

What's the difference between Briatore and Symonds in this case? Does Symonds get a pass?

 

Alonso was also given a pass, so there's that.....



#36 statsguy

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 11:32

What a disgrace. :down:

 

One of the worst offenders in F1 - responsible for Crashgate; firing Trulli because he was faster than his protege; and various cheating scandals his teams were involved in...

 

I don't understand why his ban was ever lifted, he doesn't belong in the paddock.



#37 FirstnameLastname

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 11:33

Perhaps they are hoping he’ll do something unacceptable and it’ll force them to sell the team :lol:

#38 LolaB0860

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 11:36

Clicks, comments and a few more minutes of airtime on Netflix Drive to Survive.


That's probably more valuable than couple of WCC points nowadays to be fair

#39 SophieB

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 11:46

@keithcollantine

The official Formula 1 website's article on Flavio Briatore returning to Alpine does not mention that he was banned from the sport over his role in Crashgate.

Instead it refers to him "vacating his position in 2009 and taking some more time out of F1."
#F1


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#40 danmills

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 11:46

And probably what's kept Haas ticking over in the sport, Netflix airtime is free marketing and boy did they milk that cash cow.



#41 flingsofdeon

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 11:52

Really feel this is the type of persona they need around to move things forward. Genuinely feel he’s a strong appointment for them. Let’s see how this pans out…

#42 pdac

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 12:05

Really feel this is the type of persona they need around to move things forward. Genuinely feel he’s a strong appointment for them. Let’s see how this pans out…

 

This type of persona, yes. But not someone dug up from the past.



#43 se7en_24

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 12:08

I wonder whether this has been signed on Flav's boat... 

 

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Well, it can't be signed on this particular boat as it gave Flav some legal troubles although he might be able to rent it himself instead of illegally charting it to others.

Yessss, the post I was looking for!  :rotfl:



#44 FLB

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 12:17

 

@keithcollantine

The official Formula 1 website's article on Flavio Briatore returning to Alpine does not mention that he was banned from the sport over his role in Crashgate.

Instead it refers to him "vacating his position in 2009 and taking some more time out of F1."
#F1

 

:clap:  :rotfl:  :cat:

 

 

Next thing you know, they'll pretend Abu Dhabi 2021 never happened...



#45 Sixteen3

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 12:19

He will probably get the job done, legally or otherwise…
 



#46 Bleu

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 12:22

The ban on Briatore was actually overturned in the court. It was done because there wasn't equivalent to superlicence for team personnel.



#47 Fastcake

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 12:27


@keithcollantine
The official Formula 1 website's article on Flavio Briatore returning to Alpine does not mention that he was banned from the sport over his role in Crashgate.
Instead it refers to him "vacating his position in 2009 and taking some more time out of F1."
#F1
https://x.com/keithc...3415354575?s=61


I’m sure pretending this never happened is not going to come back to bite F1 in any way, no sir not at all.

#48 Forghieri

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 12:28

There was no outrage when Haas Andretti hired Pat Symonds as a consultant.

 

I despise Briatore, but the double standard is out of scale.


Edited by Forghieri, 21 June 2024 - 12:31.


#49 Myrvold

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 12:29

There was no outrage when Haas hired Pat Symonds as a consultant.

I despise Briatore, but the double standard is out of scale.


Haas?

#50 juicy sushi

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Posted 21 June 2024 - 12:30

So, this is it.

What do we think about it?

I think he did the time and has the right to come back. But I also think it means a lot if a team hires someone with his past.

Alpine seems to be going some weird ways.

Link: https://x.com/Alpine...Aaq3orvSCQ&s=19

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