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[LolaB0860]

Hello. It's time to start talking about F1 again, as if it's been ages since it was last talked about.

 

It's the city of canals. Even though that has nothing to do with Zandvoort, but it just looks nice and is in Holland.

 

Alright that's enough.


CIRCUIT & CHANGES

 

And escape road directions:
Escape Road at Turn 1 – Any driver going straight and who misses the corner at Turn 1 must follow the small road along the front of the tyre barrier which leads back on to the track at the exit of Turn 1.
Escape Road at Turn 8 – Any driver going straight and who misses the corner at Turn 8 must follow the small road along the front of the tyre barrier which leads back on to the track at Turn 9.
Escape Road at Turn 11 – Any driver going straight and who misses the corner at Turn 11 must follow the small road along the front of the tyre barrier which leads back on to the track at Turn 12.



WEATHER

https://www.gpfans.c...ecast-thursday/
(Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 4:57 PM)

Friday, August 23: FP1 and FP2
The first day of action is likely to be impacted by heavy rain and strong gusts of up to 51mph from the south west. Showers are expected to be most intense during FP1 with a 70 per cent chance, dropping to 14 per cent during FP2 later in the afternoon. Temperatures are expected to reach a pleasant 21 degrees Celsius, with high humidity levels of around 80 per cent throughout the day.

Saturday, August 24: FP3 and Qualifying
The weather doesn't look like it will get any better on Saturday, with a 70 per cent chance of rain currently expected for both the final practice run and qualifying session. Temperatures will be slightly cooler, reaching a maximum of 20 degrees Celsius, and humidity levels will remain high at 80 per cent.

Sunday, August 25: Race
While there's a slight chance of a brief shower in the hours leading up to the race, the event itself is currently expected to be dry with a sunny sky and a 0 per cent chance of rain around the 3pm start time. The day's peak temperature will be 19 degrees, falling to 13 degrees at night. Humidity is predicted to be around 62 per cent with a moderate breeze coming from the west south west.

 

https://www.motorspo...nings/10646590/

Lando Norris fears that conditions during Friday practice for Formula 1’s Dutch Grand Prix could be “dangerous” as forecasts predict 80km/h gusts. Weather warnings have been issued for the local province, with officials saying there is a risk of disruption to all outdoor activities because of flying debris.

 

 

 

PIRELLI BLAA

SCHEDULE

Timezone corrected: https://www.formula1...024/netherlands
Nonsense removed, local:

FRIDAY
10:10 - 10:50 F1 Academy - Practice 1
12:30 - 13:30 FIA Formula 1 - Practice 1
14:00 - 14:45 Porsche Supercup - Practice
16:00 - 17:00 FIA Formula 1 - Practice 2
17:30 - 18:10 F1 Academy - Practice 2

SATURDAY
10:15 - 10:45 F1 Academy - Qualifying
11:30 - 12:30 FIA Formula 1 - Practice 3
13:00 - 13:30 Porsche Supercup - Qualifying
15:00 - 16:00 FIA Formula 1 - Qualifying
17:05 - 17:40 F1 Academy - Race 1 (17L/30min)

SUNDAY
10:40 - 11:15 F1 Academy - Race 2 (17L/30min)
11:55 - 12:30 Porsche Supercup - Race (17L/30min)
15:00 - 17:00 FIA Formula 1 - Dutch Grand Prix (72L/120min)



F1AC LIVESTREAMS

Qualifying

 

Race 1

 

Race 2

Edited by LolaB0860, 22 August 2024 - 18:12.

[SophieB]

Cultural Dutch - British exchange vibes ahoy

[SophieB]

[LolaB0860]

Stuff about whether Dutch GP still exists after 2025 contract runs out + desire for the event to be "car-free"

https://forums.autos...1#entry10697396

 

Dutch GP ranks 9th in average 2024 ticket prices (despite having the least racing track time of all Euro events, mind you)

https://forums.autos...4#entry10632393

 

This event also ranked #11 on your F1 race rankings, with 203 points (final unaccounted vote taken into account)

https://forums.autos...1-style-points/

[Autodromo]

Lando and Charles commenting on the difficulties (and potential impossibility) of running in an 80 kmh wind.  It's going to be windy on the North Sea; who could have predicted that??

[Autodromo]

Stuff about whether Dutch GP still exists after 2025 contract runs out + desire for the event to be "car-free"

https://forums.autos...1#entry10697396

 

Dutch GP ranks 9th in average 2024 ticket prices (despite having the least racing track time of all Euro events, mind you)

https://forums.autos...4#entry10632393

 

This event also ranked #11 on your F1 race rankings, with 203 points (final unaccounted vote taken into account)

https://forums.autos...1-style-points/

A Car-Free F1 race would be sort of boring.

[sportyskells]

Lando and Charles commenting on the difficulties (and potential impossibility) of running in an 80 kmh wind.  It's going to be windy on the North Sea; who could have predicted that??

Maybe from the same storm that is about to hit the uk so if I was f1 I get plans b and c ready

Edited by sportyskells, 22 August 2024 - 19:41.

[eibyyz]

Orange-adjacent:

https://youtu.be/lA8...?feature=shared

[milestone 11]

Raise you Sophie. 

 

[JBJ]

Still tickets for sale, was this the same last year(s) ?

[F1 Mike]

Interesting that Max doesn't see himself in F1 for another 200 races in the press conference interview, so I wonder if the race would still be viable if Max was to retire after a few years with another team?

[LolaB0860]

Interesting that Max doesn't see himself in F1 for another 200 races in the press conference interview, so I wonder if the race would still be viable if Max was to retire after a few years with another team?

 

Mexican GP will surely end up in abandoned trashcan as soon as Perez is sacked, with this one and Verstappen I think it's 50-50

[JL14]

Still tickets for sale, was this the same last year(s) ?

 

Not just still for sale.
We can't even find someone to take over 2 Gold tickets for half price.

Edited by JL14, 22 August 2024 - 21:12.

[F1 Mike]

Not just still for sale.
We can't even find someone to take over 2 Gold tickets for half price.

Does this mean ticket prices are not affordable, or that Dutch fans only care about going to see a Dutch driver winning the race?

[krapmeister]

Interesting that Max doesn't see himself in F1 for another 200 races in the press conference interview, so I wonder if the race would still be viable if Max was to retire after a few years with another team?

I can see why Max says he wont be around in another 200 races, it's approx 8 years or so.

I think Max will keep doing F1 until he is 30, so 4 yrs or possibly another 100 races - plenty young enough to do lots of racing in other categories at a high level post F1 (then perhaps we can revisit the Max v Larson 'Best all-round driver' question ;) ). Caveat to that being if he absolutely hates the 2026 reg cars he may very well jack it in earlier, though at <30yrs old he would still be young enough to make a comeback if he wished.

And yes, potentially him not being around could affect the viability of the GP. Just look at the German races after Schumacher retired...

Edited by krapmeister, 22 August 2024 - 22:59.

[Heyli]

There is no was the Dutch GP survives without Verstappen.

[jonklug]

Man we just can't get a clean hot weekend can we. Insane seeing as how it's been a super hot summer all over Europe. 

[JeePee]

Man we just can't get a clean hot weekend can we. Insane seeing as how it's been a super hot summer all over Europe. 

It has hardly been dry for longer than a week this year in the Netherlands. Some hot days, yes, but also a lot of rain.

 

I'm going this weekend, and won't mind putting on a poncho.

[FirstnameLastname]

Interesting that Max doesn't see himself in F1 for another 200 races in the press conference interview, so I wonder if the race would still be viable if Max was to retire after a few years with another team?

I’m sure Alonso was saying similar things at one point… and Lewis spoke about retirement ages ago too

I bet max is still around in 10 years time

[Winterapfel]

A small shout out to the wonderful volunteers of 'ambulance wish'


They were able to bring 7 terminally ill patients to the F1 paddock yesterday.

https://x.com/StAmbu...EulvQQUXag&s=19

Stichting Ambulance Wens Nederland is a Dutch foundation consisting of 270 medically trained voluntary workers who fulfill last wishes of terminally ill patients who are immobile and dependent on transport by ambulances, which are specially designed and developed for this purpose.

[Beri]

It doesn't get more Dutch than this.

Enroute to the circuit by the way.

[blackmme]

Maybe from the same storm that is about to hit the uk so if I was f1 I get plans b and c ready

I’m on the UK East Coast and approximately opposite Zandvoort, it’s quite a violent storm here with very strong gusts currently. 
 

Regards Mike

[Beri]

Right now, the winds are not severe. Not in any way that I deem it useless for cars to get on track. But there is a "storm" passing by just around noon before FP1 with wind gusts and a substantial amount of rain expected. Could very well be that we see little running in FP1.

Edited by Beri, 23 August 2024 - 07:40.

[FirstnameLastname]

Let’s hope it’s not a Red Light District at the end of the pitlane if this storm is a biggie

After a 4 week gap, I wants more F1!

How many will ping the ‘Wall of DansWristPain’?

Edited by FirstnameLastname, 23 August 2024 - 07:41.

[SenorSjon]

Not just still for sale.
We can't even find someone to take over 2 Gold tickets for half price.

 

The own resell platform and ticketswap don't have that many tickets for sale?

[Beri]

The popularity is still there. But would you rather try and find tickets to a Grand Prix that was impossible to get to in the earlier years, or try and go to another one which is easy to travel to and tickets are freely and en readily available?

[SenorSjon]

This has also something to do with it

https://www.ad.nl/fo...etrel~a3b26f20/ (Dutch, use translater of choice).

 

Platinum bought 35k tickets for 15m for 2024 and 35k for 15m for 2025 to be sold abroad.

For 2024, they still had 13k unsold tickets in June, so didn't want to pay their last term of 3.8m for this year. They irked that Max Verstappen also sold tickets to foreigners on his site.

Zandvoort kept Platinum on their contract and now the judge sided with the track.

 

Do we have the same in 2025?

Edited by SenorSjon, 23 August 2024 - 07:54.

[Winterapfel]

Right now, the winds are not severe. Not in any way that I deem it useless for cars to get on track. But there is a "storm" passing by just around noon before FP1 with wind gusts and a substantial amount of rain expected. Could very well be that we see little running in FP1.

Breezy

https://x.com/HaasF1...FvKfJ7ku1g&s=19

[Beri]

Those Muricans aren't used to this Dutch weather. We Dutch usually go on our bikes to the beach, have some stroopwafels and swim during these conditions.

[FirstnameLastname]

Those Muricans aren't used to this Dutch weather. We Dutch usually go on our bikes to the beach, have some stroopwafels and swim during these conditions.

We cancel flights, close schools, panic buy bread and milk, and go stand on a sea wall to wait to be washed away by a giant wave.

[Beri]

Wind is seriously picking up right now

[milestone 11]

Wind is seriously picking up right now

Looks pretty miserable too with very low heavy cloud

Edited by milestone 11, 23 August 2024 - 10:26.

[ANF]

FP1 about to start. One hour earlier than usual, isn't it?

[ANF]

Horrendous weather!

[Ruusperi]

Don't expect any running

 

[Huffer]

Those Muricans aren't used to this Dutch weather. We Dutch usually go on our bikes to the beach, have some stroopwafels and swim during these conditions.

 

There's also a very cool beachcombing museum at Zandvoort beach - which in a way, also seems like a very Dutch thing to have a museum about. 

[jonpollak]

Horrendous weather!

Said no one ever at Zandvoort

Jp

[Nemo1965]

Those Muricans aren't used to this Dutch weather. We Dutch usually go on our bikes to the beach, have some stroopwafels and swim during these conditions.

Far from me to enjoy deflating the tough image of the Dutch, but I live close to the beach and with this kind of weather there are only the fifty plus anorak wearing types to be found outside (like me and my wife). This morning we were alone on the beach with not another soul in sight for miles (except for the suicidal parapante-flyers, but they don’t count)

[F1 Mike]

It's a little comforting to know other countries are getting the same awful summer as ourselves in UK

[jonpollak]

Also..
The co-commentator for the Academy session was really good !

Anyone get his name?

Jp

[milestone 11]

Horrendous weather!

Rotweer?

[sportyskells]

Hulkenburg been off twice,  make that three at the turn Zhou crashed last year

Edited by sportyskells, 23 August 2024 - 10:51.

[ANF]

Hülkenberg off track again. Now in T1, previously in T9 and T10. Locked up as he started to turn in on all occasions. Struggling with symmetric brake pressure maybe?

[Ruusperi]

I love that Norris' onboard cam.

[Nemo1965]

Some sun now here, 20 miles north from Zandvoort.

[milestone 11]

Also..
The co-commentator for the Academy session was really good !
Anyone get his name?
Jp

Joe Osborne

[ANF]

Oops. Verstappen spun at Hans Ernst. Clipped the kerb.

[Hellenic tifosi]

Time for dries

[jonpollak]

Thank you Miley.

Joe Osborn is a great guitarist too

Travelin' Man (Ricky Nelson)
Memphis (Johnny Rivers)
California Dreamin' (The Mamas & the Papas)
Windy (The Association)
MacArthur Park (Richard Harris)
Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In (The 5th Dimension)
The Only Living Boy in New York (Simon & Garfunkel)
For All We Know (The Carpenters)
Forgiven, Don Francisco, 1977
It's Going to Take Some Time (The Carpenters)
Bridge over Troubled Water (Simon & Garfunkel)
Midnight Confessions (The Grass Roots)
Ventura Highway (America)

Jp

Edited by jonpollak, 23 August 2024 - 11:40.

[jonklug]

McLaren looking like the W11 out there.