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[billm99uk]

Do it now or its off.

[ANF]

Red flag.

[billm99uk]

So are we going to get any racing today?

[Ruusperi]

So are we going to get any racing today?

F3 raced for 20 minutes or so.

[FLB]

So are we going to get any racing today?

Come to IMSA...     

[billm99uk]

Well I suppose with Martins and Verschoor up front and no standing start it would have been a meh race anyway, I guess.

[STRFerrari4Ever]

“Race is Canaclecled” did anyone see that typo before they fixed it? Deary me…

[Ruusperi]

They really need to find some solution. These conditions can happen anywhere...although less likely in the Middle East.

Just make them run one by one. Winner is the fastest car of that time trial.

[Ruusperi]

Stopped raining

[Disgrace]

They really need to find some solution. These conditions can happen anywhere...although less likely in the Middle East.

Just make them run one by one. Winner is the fastest car of that time trial.

 

I suppose the only issue is that track conditions change, and in the event of no rain, the last runner should be guaranteed to win. But I was not initially disgusted by the idea...

[Jellyfishcake]

I'm glad I went back to sleep as soon as the red was called initially.

 

I know not intentional, but it kind of feels a bit cheap to have the 'sprint' race the only one of the weekend, i.e the guys who didn't perform as well in qualifying benefitting 

 

Also, benefit to the teams/drivers with those 10 place penalties, as one big scoring race not being a factor 

Edited by Jellyfishcake, 16 March 2025 - 04:06.

[sportyskells]

can this race get put in at another date ti avoid odd numbers of races? like three races in Bahrain

[sportyskells]

So wait, can they award full points if they just before the start decide that the new scheduled distance is X. Like 1 lap?

a reminder of the rules after the spa 21 stuff 2 green flag laps thwn points can be awarded

[Muppetmad]

If the feature race isn't squeezed into another weekend, then ooof. That could be potentially championship-deciding for those who qualified at the front.

[Frood]

As I said in the F3 thread, what is the point in making the F2 teams traipse halfway across the world - with the costs involved - to get such a little amount of track time in? It’s F2, so these costs are only going to get passed onto the driver, and that hurts the lesser-funded drivers even more. There’s absolutely no reason F2 should be racing in Australia, and the next race is a whole month away. It’s a completely pointless exercise, and looks terrible environmentally to boot.

This and the continued farcical mechanical issues don’t matter of course, as long as Bruno Michel gets his payday. And if Bruno gets his money, we’re all happy. Because Bruno says so.

European Formula 3, Formula Renault 3.5 et. al. died for this. The FIA and Bruno Michel will continue to let the feeder series ladder atrophy for their own personal benefit.

Edited by Frood, 16 March 2025 - 11:02.

[Jellyfishcake]

As I said in the F3 thread, what is the point in making the F2 teams traipse halfway across the world - with the costs involved - to get such a little amount of track time in? It’s F2, so these costs are only going to get passed onto the driver, and that hurts the lesser-funded drivers even more. There’s absolutely no reason F2 should be racing in Australia, and the next race is a whole month away. It’s a completely pointless exercise, and looks terrible environmentally to boot.

This and the continued farcical mechanical issues don’t matter of course, as long as Bruno Michel gets his payday. And if Bruno gets his money, we’re all happy. Because Bruno says so.

European Formula 3, Formula Renault 3.5 et. al. died for this. The FIA and Bruno Michel will continue to let the feeder series ladder atrophy for their own personal benefit.

 

Couldn't agree more Frood.

 

The way F1 treats it's junior series means they should not be at these kind of venues, and also the killing off of competition that provided good quality racing (and more track time for kids) for less money is shameful.

 

If the F2 and F3 series are global, they'd need the respect that MotoGP has for Moto2 and Moto3, though I just don't think that is possible,

 

The fact these guys went out there spending so much money, for a farce of a practice and qualifying session, and then a sprint race only is a disgrace really, and will in the long term be a detriment to the series 

[Marklar]

I find the fairness factor in this insane. the drivers that qualified in the midfield have essentially been gifted this weekend, and those who qualified well punished.

Did this happen before? I know that sprint races have been cancelled before, which is not a huge biggie aside of the lost track time (which is less than a feature race anyway), but I don't remember a feature being cancelled before?

Edited by Marklar, 16 March 2025 - 13:52.

[Jellyfishcake]

I don't think so, though it's only been since 2021 we've got the current format of Feature on the Sunday after the sprint on Saturday.

2020 we had the weird 3 race weekend with a sprint and feature on Sunday

 

Honestly, they really should cancel the weekend, no points for anyone if they don't get a feature race in, but that wouldn't reflect well on Bruno and his wallet so that won't happen

[Muppetmad]

Yeah, I think the sprint race points should be contingent on the feature race being awarded at least partial points.

[billm99uk]

I'm guessing the likes of Crawford and Dunne and the others who had two race penalties count as having 'served' them now? Or do they carry over?

[SenorSjon]

I find the fairness factor in this insane. the drivers that qualified in the midfield have essentially been gifted this weekend, and those who qualified well punished.

Did this happen before? I know that sprint races have been cancelled before, which is not a huge biggie aside of the lost track time (which is less than a feature race anyway), but I don't remember a feature being cancelled before?

I really hope this doesn't influence the championship in the end.

[jonpollak]

I'm guessing the likes of Crawford and Dunne and the others who had two race penalties count as having 'served' them now? Or do they carry over?

Seeing they served the first one and lined up in the grid order that reflects the second one….. I’d say SERVED.

However…. This is none of my business.
Jp

[sportyskells]

the only way to make this fair is add a feature race to the next weekend that the cars will be racing (that bahrain)

[LolaB0860]

They could have it anywhere, even sth like Baku which has zero other support races and plenty of room. Or reinstate the old "Feature Race on Friday" format of Monaco, why not (or even on Thursday)

 

Anyway. Terrible, embarrassing car crapping out and cheating teams serving partial penalties are more priority issues to deal with than whether or not the missing race is reinstated immediately, that can be done in due course. But it should still be done at some point

Edited by LolaB0860, 17 March 2025 - 19:19.

[Muppetmad]

Sadly, if Hadjar stalling on the grid to end the title battle in the most anticlimactic way possible wasn't enough to inspire a root-and-branch investigation into F2 reliability, I don't think it'll ever happen.

[LolaB0860]

I mean, yes, nothing will be done of course, but in theory...

[Ben24]

I find the fairness factor in this insane. the drivers that qualified in the midfield have essentially been gifted this weekend, and those who qualified well punished.

Did this happen before? I know that sprint races have been cancelled before, which is not a huge biggie aside of the lost track time (which is less than a feature race anyway), but I don't remember a feature being cancelled before?

It's yet another reason that the feature race should be before the sprint and be the thing that decides the order of the sprint (already thought that was more fair than just reversing the quali grid like we do now). At least then if the Saturday feature race got cancelled they could just make the Sunday race the feature instead and if the Sunday sprint got cancelled it wouldn't be a big deal.

[tyker]

I find the fairness factor in this insane. the drivers that qualified in the midfield have essentially been gifted this weekend, and those who qualified well punished.

Did this happen before? I know that sprint races have been cancelled before, which is not a huge biggie aside of the lost track time (which is less than a feature race anyway), but I don't remember a feature being cancelled before?

I believe there was a Feature race cancelled last year as well, the unfairness crept in once they moved the Feature Race from Saturday to Sunday I believe mainly for the benefit for the F1 audience, the priority should be the Feature Race and I believe there is more time to run it on the Saturday, any race getting cancelled should be the Sprint Race, it's almost like there's a need to even up the field, how does that promote the best drivers, seeing Durksen and others like him celebrate after what is essential a gifted win, qualify quite poorly then start on the front row, just leaves me shaking my head.

Edited by tyker, 17 March 2025 - 20:12.

[LolaB0860]

In any case, Feature Race on Saturday, after qualifying, really felt like Feature Event of that day. Feature Race before GP feels like a chore waiting to be done

Anyway, I still wish for there to be single 200km race on Saturday, sprints and reversed grids belong to little boys

Edited by LolaB0860, 18 March 2025 - 06:23.

[Bleu]

When feature race was before the sprint, GP3 had once sprint race cancelled beforehand after Saturday attempt was rained out. So feature was on the spot reserved for sprint.

[sportyskells]

its time for the in season tests and a reminder day 3 will have kess cars around due to the rule breakers

[Amin]

“Race is Canaclecled” did anyone see that typo before they fixed it? Deary me…

I'm getting flashbacks of Canamasas taking out competitors left, right and centre.