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#1001 Goron3

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 19:48

If the air temperature can stay over 20 degrees as predicted then that will help massively once we can go racing.

It's always worse when it's cold and wet.

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#1002 zeph

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 19:52

Bliman, on 15 Mar 2025 - 18:55, said:

No Tsunoda wouldn't have done better. How many times have we have to do this? Every year we hear this with just a different driver.

 

Seems you have been around here more than I have, but this is literally the first time I brought this up.



#1003 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 19:57



#1004 Bliman

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 19:59

zeph, on 15 Mar 2025 - 19:52, said:

Seems you have been around here more than I have, but this is literally the first time I brought this up.

I mean in general. Every year someone brings up a name that would have done better. While it never does. Gasly, Perez, Albion, etc... I hope I wasn't to aggressive. Sorry if I was.

#1005 IrvTheSwerve

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:11

Muzzyf1, on 15 Mar 2025 - 18:19, said:

Lol toughen up mate we watch races in more early hours than anyone else in the world I've done it for 25 years plus.
Stop complaining

I thought my bracketed part covered that, but there we go.  :lol:



#1006 balmybaldwin

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:13

IrvTheSwerve, on 15 Mar 2025 - 15:48, said:

I just can't do it any longer. Especially with the amount of races we now have outside of decent GMT times (yes, boohoo Brits and Europeans). No way am I getting up at 3am now to watch something live like I used to 20, 25+ years ago.

 

No difference recording it and watching it when you get up. The only thing I miss is following the reaction on here. Plus you can fast-forward the ever increasing red flags.

As long as you are disciplined you can still follow the reaction here when watching on delay. I do it often



#1007 IrvTheSwerve

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:16

balmybaldwin, on 15 Mar 2025 - 20:13, said:

As long as you are disciplined you can still follow the reaction here when watching on delay. I do it often

I’ve sort of done that before, but always somehow end up on the main forum page with a top thread of ‘LEWIS V MAX LAP 34 CRASH WHO IS AT FAULT?!!!’, lol.


Edited by IrvTheSwerve, 15 March 2025 - 20:16.


#1008 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:18

Incidentally the coverage were abysmal as usual, following cars which had just completed a lap, watching the pits while the fast guys were on track, way to much coverage from inside the car - Hard to imagine it will ever be better, and since the drones messed up Alpine Skiing I had developed a fear they will do that to F1 as well.



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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:18

IrvTheSwerve, on 15 Mar 2025 - 20:16, said:

I’ve sort of done that before, but always somehow end up on the main forum page with a top thread of ‘LEWIS V MAX LAP 34 CRASH WHO IS AT FAULT?!!!’, lol.

I am sympathetic to the thread titles being spoilers but I don’t see a way around this, unfortunately.



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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:26

"Australian GP controversial incident"

#1011 zeph

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:28

Bliman, on 15 Mar 2025 - 19:59, said:

I mean in general. Every year someone brings up a name that would have done better. While it never does. Gasly, Perez, Albion, etc... I hope I wasn't to aggressive. Sorry if I was.

 

No worries. 

 

I get it, RBR seat #2 has been underperforming ever since Webber and Ricciardo. I don’t rate Tsunoda all that highly, but feel like he could have been a decent #2 if it weren’t for his personality. He seems a bit too blunt and outspoken to thrive in a team where the likes of Horner and Marko run the show.


Edited by zeph, 15 March 2025 - 20:29.


#1012 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:30

Bliman, on 15 Mar 2025 - 18:57, said:

Billy? Oh I didn't know it wasn't about me. I thought F1 needs viewers. I guess I was wrong. It depends what job that you do.

You know the world population lives mostly outside of the central european timezone?
It’s a global audience. Most of the races are rather friendly european timezone. Do what the rest of us do - stream when you wake up:). Not condescending, just an advice

#1013 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:32

Bliman, on 15 Mar 2025 - 19:59, said:

I mean in general. Every year someone brings up a name that would have done better. While it never does. Gasly, Perez, Albion, etc... I hope I wasn't to aggressive. Sorry if I was.

Because nobody wants to admit that the combination of
1) max being terrific
2) rb clearly going his extreme direction

makes it an extremely had position to be in.
Maybe Lawson will do good. Too eary

#1014 balmybaldwin

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:33

if it doesn't say xxx GP race day   don't read the titles and i can generally get away with it.



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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:34

SophieB, on 15 Mar 2025 - 20:18, said:

I am sympathetic to the thread titles being spoilers but I don’t see a way around this, unfortunately.

Yeah… I’m of the school of ‘if you’re avoid a result, don’t go on the discussion forum for the thing you’re avoiding’ thought….

But everyone is different I guess!

I mind the days it was easy to go all day and avoid an F1 result… but now I’ve got colleagues who are fans and my phone is desperate to spoilt the result across multiple apps/news feeds etc.

Nowadays if I’m not gonna see it live, I don’t even try avoid the result. I used to - and then watch ‘as live’ - but now I’ll seek the result out and read the reports/ rating thread on here to see if it was worth watching

Normally I just settle for the 8min YouTube highlight package if I’ve missed it. There’s too many races nowadays to be obsessed with seeing it all live

Edited by FirstnameLastname, 15 March 2025 - 20:36.


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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:36

Alfisti, on 15 Mar 2025 - 14:24, said:

A few things.....

You have to start wondering if red bull are developing themselves into a corner with Max. There's no way in the world Lawson is that bad and we've seen gasly and albon suffer as well. Lawson did lose the day due to the technical issue but the car looked absolutely evil, really weird, understeer then oversteer etc etc, rbr seem to be going down avenues where sure max likes the car but is it really faster that way because he can't tolerate a bit of understeer? I mean the sister team may well built a car on par with them, tsunoda was not far off max in the end, so something is amiss.

I don't think the mclaren is as far ahead here as people are saying, both drivers hooked up good laps. It'll be interesting when we get to an aero track like China or Japan though.

What happened to antonelli and ocon? The coverage missed it but their laps were poor. Traffic?

Doohan looked hooked up, was really unlucky to miss q3 as he hit the yellows but he was right with Gasly.

Red Bull should ask RB to design and prepare 3 cars and give one of team in the pre-season.

 

Later just put your livery on and let the second driver drive a proper car.


Edited by Boxerevo, 15 March 2025 - 20:37.


#1017 balmybaldwin

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:36

Controversial view: I really don't like these new wide angle onboards - makes the cars look stupidly skinny



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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:37

SophieB, on 15 Mar 2025 - 20:18, said:

I am sympathetic to the thread titles being spoilers but I don’t see a way around this, unfortunately.

Haha, yeah, it wasn’t a criticism, just a reason to stay away if watching a recording.  :up:



#1019 Ruusperi

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:38

Good thing the race isn't now. I don't think we would see any racing.



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#1020 vlado

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:39




There is a chance..

#1021 SophieB

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:45

@MeteoMotorsport

LATEST RADAR — Moderate-intensity rain is falling across Melbourne as the frontal system crawls east across Victoria. Rain of this intensity is expected to continue throughout the morning, before turning showery by mid-afternoon.

 
#F1 #F2 #F3 #Supercars | #AusGP


#1022 watercolours

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:45

PrinceBira, on 15 Mar 2025 - 08:31, said:

Let’s say they could make 2 cars.

Car 1, easier to drive.

Lap time Verstappen 1.20.0
Lap time Lawson 1.20.2

Car 2, harder to drive

Lap time Verstappen 1.19.8
Lap time Lawson 1.20.6

As a team principle, which car would you instruct your engineers to build?

As a team principle, if my engineers come to me with this option, I would choose 2. But when I find out that other teams designed a similarly fast car without compromising ease of drive, I would have a very nasty conversation with my engineers.



#1023 zeph

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:46

MikeTekRacing, on 15 Mar 2025 - 20:32, said:

Because nobody wants to admit that the combination of
1) max being terrific
2) rb clearly going his extreme direction

makes it an extremely had position to be in.
Maybe Lawson will do good. Too eary

 

 

I don't think anybody can deny Verstappen is one of the all-time greats, and that RBR is the best team all around, even when they don't have the fastest car.

 

But that doesn't mean it's a level playing field for the other driver.



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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:47

SophieB, on 15 Mar 2025 - 20:45, said:


@MeteoMotorsport
LATEST RADAR — Moderate-intensity rain is falling across Melbourne as the frontal system crawls east across Victoria. Rain of this intensity is expected to continue throughout the morning, before turning showery by mid-afternoon.

#F1 #F2 #F3 #Supercars | #AusGP


Suspect we'll see a similar race to Canada last year. Wet to dry and very cool temperatures.

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 20:48

I am not sure that what are probably varying levels of wet setups run in the dry are a great indicator of which car is fastest.  They are inherently non-optimized for the conditions.



#1026 Bliman

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 21:00

MikeTekRacing, on 15 Mar 2025 - 20:30, said:

You know the world population lives mostly outside of the central european timezone?
It’s a global audience. Most of the races are rather friendly european timezone. Do what the rest of us do - stream when you wake up:). Not condescending, just an advice

Yeah it was just a friendly conversation here.I don't remember a time where we had so many early races after each other (last year was the same I think). I rather like they would spread it out more. But it was just a bit of banter. I would watch it later but I know I would disappoint my dad. For more than 35 years we have watched every race live no matter what. Hospital and other things included.

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 21:00

Nobody, on 15 Mar 2025 - 19:46, said:

Two Aussies, Lawson is just another overachieving Kiwi

 

My bad, did not take closer look at his flag.  :blush:



#1028 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 21:02

Bliman, on 15 Mar 2025 - 21:00, said:

Yeah it was just a friendly conversation here.I don't remember a time where we had so many early races after each other (last year was the same I think). I rather like they would spread it out more. But it was just a bit of banter. I would watch it later but I know I would disappoint my dad. For more than 35 years we have watched every race live no matter what. Hospital and other things included.

I misread it. Sorry for the tone

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 21:08

SophieB, on 15 Mar 2025 - 20:45, said:


@MeteoMotorsport
LATEST RADAR — Moderate-intensity rain is falling across Melbourne as the frontal system crawls east across Victoria. Rain of this intensity is expected to continue throughout the morning, before turning showery by mid-afternoon.

#F1 #F2 #F3 #Supercars | #AusGP


"Showery" means less than "moderate" in this context, right?

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 21:09

Feel like this race could be fascinating. There are some drivers who seem to have over delivered in qualifying, some cars with wet set up, and a bunch of rookies, 2 of whom are in front running cars.

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 21:11

Risil, on 15 Mar 2025 - 21:08, said:

"Showery" means less than "moderate" in this context, right?

 

"used to describe weather with light rain that is often not continuous:" (с) 

 

Yeah, I didn't know that. Thought it would mean showers. Thanks.



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Posted 15 March 2025 - 21:28

I'm afraid I'll go to bed only to wake up and find out they started the race early. Ah well, hope not!

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 21:51

jonklug, on 15 Mar 2025 - 21:28, said:

I'm afraid I'll go to bed only to wake up and find out they started the race early. Ah well, hope not!

 

Yep. I'm also suffering from FOMO because of this



#1034 STRFerrari4Ever

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 21:54

A wet dry race like Australia 2010 would be greatly appreciated by myself and others I’m sure. I’m intrigued to see how it pans out, could be a wild and wacky one.

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 22:00

MikeTekRacing, on 15 Mar 2025 - 21:02, said:

I misread it. Sorry for the tone

No problem at all. As far as me concerned we are a big family here.

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 22:28

Dalton007, on 15 Mar 2025 - 19:33, said:

He's not good enough. Four seasons and still couldn't get a RB seat, that is telling.


I think qualifying 5th in a Racing Bull ahead of both Ferraris (and a 7 time wdc) isn’t to shabby.

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Posted 15 March 2025 - 23:20

https://www.autospor...watch/10703521/

 

Easily one of the most laughable articles ever on this site.



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Posted 16 March 2025 - 00:48

scheivlak, on 15 Mar 2025 - 23:20, said:

https://www.autospor...watch/10703521/

 

Easily one of the most laughable articles ever on this site.

Hhahahahahahhahahahaha and of course it is, could spot the sign in that article early on



#1039 Arska

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Posted 16 March 2025 - 01:04

Bliman, on 15 Mar 2025 - 18:55, said:

No Tsunoda wouldn't have done better. How many times have we have to do this? Every year we hear this with just a different driver.

 

Just like in 2016 and 2017 when the Verstappen was beaten in points.



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Posted 16 March 2025 - 01:06

Is it just me or is the forum bugging for others too?

 

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#1041 Arska

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Posted 16 March 2025 - 01:09

FLB, on 16 Mar 2025 - 01:06, said:

Is it just me or is the forum bugging for others too?

 

Too much load and nothing enough done to fix it. Going on for years.



#1042 ArchieTech

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Posted 16 March 2025 - 01:09

FLB, on 16 Mar 2025 - 01:06, said:

Is it just me or is the forum bugging for others too?


Yes keep seeing 'server is too busy' errors in the last few minutes.

#1043 ATM

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Posted 16 March 2025 - 01:31

Sooo, with the rain and wet gravel traps galore, are we set to see drivers beach their cars? (which they don't fully master yet in the dry, as we saw în qualy). We might be in for a thriller of a season opener. Hadn't had one of those for quite a long time.

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Posted 16 March 2025 - 05:31

FIA should implement sanctions to organizers for slow track operations rather than dealing with pilots' swears.