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#51 jonpollak

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 15:32

PayasYouRace, on 03 Apr 2025 - 15:11, said:

Was actually thinking of Brooklands, but nice Tooned reference.

(My turn to play the Surrey pedant… woohoo !)

Oh.. that’s more Byfleet and Weybridge than Woking. !!!
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#52 PayasYouRace

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 15:32

jonpollak, on 03 Apr 2025 - 15:31, said:

My turn to play the Surrey pedant… woohoo !)

Oh.. that’s more Byfleet and Weybridge than Woking. !!!
Jp


Yeah but figured Woking was big enough to be a better analogue.

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 15:34

How to overtake in turn 1:

 

https://youtu.be/y7U8rfK6pcw?t=74



#54 Risil

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 15:35

PayasYouRace, on 03 Apr 2025 - 15:32, said:

Yeah but figured Woking was big enough to be a better analogue.


Woking wishes it was that swanky!

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 15:36

Risil, on 03 Apr 2025 - 15:35, said:

Woking wishes it was that swanky!


At least Woking has a seminal sci-fi novel set there.

#56 Risil

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 15:38

We used to drive there regularly and dad would point out where the main events of the great Martian invasion of the Home Counties took place.

#57 Mc_Silver

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 15:38

vlado, on 03 Apr 2025 - 15:01, said:

Considering how competitive McLaren were here last year even before their Miami GP upgrade they must be clear favorites.

Looking forward to what that car can do on this beautiful racetrack!

Hopefully dry track on Sunday.


Max was untouchable last year. I expect him to be a bit of headache for McLaren drivers.

#58 MKSixer

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 15:46

Epic post to start of the GP Week!!

 

Back in the dark ages of arcade video games, Suzuka was the only track I couldn't master on Pole Position. It was infuriating, exhilarating and humbling at the same time.  I'm certain I dropped a year's income for a college student in quarters in my futile quest to master this track. Not a single regret or wasted quarter.  Love this track!!



#59 MJB5990

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 15:53

In the red cars, I'm really hoping Lewis can find some confidence in the high speed otherwise this is going to be a massacre by Charles. 



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#60 JordanIreland

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 15:55

Beri, on 03 Apr 2025 - 09:34, said:

Suzuka. Everyone talks about the Esses or the WhateverDegreeItIsNowadays-R corner. But to me.. it's this one;

The car bending Degner Curves..


This is one of my favourite photos. It really shows how dynamic and alive a car can be 😍😍

#61 tigerkimi

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 15:56

vlado, on 03 Apr 2025 - 15:01, said:

Considering how competitive McLaren were here last year even before their Miami GP upgrade they must be clear favorites.

Looking forward to what that car can do on this beautiful racetrack!

Hopefully dry track on Sunday.


If I remember correctly last year, it was 1 2 the RB and 3 4 ferrari

#62 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 16:04

Yeah, China was the place were Mclaren were starting to be competitive last year (before the Miami weekend).
In Japan RB were in a league of their own, easy 1-2 both qualy and race



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Posted 03 April 2025 - 16:07

Beri, on 03 Apr 2025 - 09:34, said:

Suzuka. Everyone talks about the Esses or the WhateverDegreeItIsNowadays-R corner. But to me.. it's this one;

The car bending Degner Curves..


Mental to see this sort of pic and then remember cars can be DSQ for the plank being worn by 0.5mm too much.

Crazy margins when the cars are so brutal

#64 SophieB

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 16:09

@fergieweather

#F1 #BBCF1 #JAPANESEGP OUTLOOK: Dry weather, with temperatures around average, characterise Friday & Saturday (noticeably breezy on Fri). A cold front moves NE across Suzuka later on Saturday night, clearing through Sunday morning. Chance of further showers into the race is low.



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Posted 03 April 2025 - 16:12

PayasYouRace, on 03 Apr 2025 - 15:36, said:

At least Woking has a seminal sci-fi novel set there.

It is suitably dystopian these days, what with a bankrupt council that owes more then the GDP of a small country and a Hilton hotel that keeps shedding its cladding if the wind speed reaches double figures.

 

But it doesn't have Brooklands which is in MY borough of Elmbridge (not yet bankrupt but trying) and that is just as well as the Woking lot would be trying to sell it to one of the Gulf states.



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Posted 03 April 2025 - 16:16

MKSixer, on 03 Apr 2025 - 15:46, said:

Epic post to start of the GP Week!!

 

Back in the dark ages of arcade video games, Suzuka was the only track I couldn't master on Pole Position. It was infuriating, exhilarating and humbling at the same time.  I'm certain I dropped a year's income for a college student in quarters in my futile quest to master this track. Not a single regret or wasted quarter.  Love this track!!

Wet Suzuka was the hardest experience i got on tyres managment on these F1 games. Sector 1 and 2 were the biggest intermediate tyres killer i ever experimented. Couldn't nurse at all, so went flat-out and one more stop than the computers.


Edited by Boxerevo, 03 April 2025 - 16:18.


#67 Lazy

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 16:19

Beri, on 03 Apr 2025 - 09:34, said:

Suzuka. Everyone talks about the Esses or the WhateverDegreeItIsNowadays-R corner. But to me.. it's this one;

The car bending Degner Curves..

Looks like it's landing from a hop over the curbs.



#68 RainyAfterlifeDaylight

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 16:38

Beri, on 03 Apr 2025 - 09:34, said:

Suzuka. Everyone talks about the Esses or the WhateverDegreeItIsNowadays-R corner. But to me.. it's this one;

The car bending Degner Curves..

I always sleep like this. Doctors call it "Scoliosis".


Edited by RainyAfterlifeDaylight, 03 April 2025 - 16:39.


#69 917k

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 16:38

Lovely track that races horribly.



#70 Risil

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 17:00

917k, on 03 Apr 2025 - 16:38, said:

Lovely track that races horribly.

 

It works well for bikes. I think a bit narrow without long straights for F1. Although I seem to remember Kamui Kobayashi making pass after pass there, so maybe it's a lack of imagination on everyone else's part.



#71 EvilPhil II

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 17:18

Suzuka rulessssssss

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 17:45

MJB5990, on 03 Apr 2025 - 15:53, said:

In the red cars, I'm really hoping Lewis can find some confidence in the high speed otherwise this is going to be a massacre by Charles.

It’s high speed with sharp turns where he is lacking confidence like Australia T9-10.

Suzuka has more sweeps like Silverstone I feel. It’s probably Saudi where more of these corners are.

Ultimately though Mclaren will romp away…probably Max a distant 3rd

Edited by lewislorenzo, 03 April 2025 - 17:46.


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Posted 03 April 2025 - 17:45

JimmyClark, on 03 Apr 2025 - 06:43, said:

Apparently the gravel has been restored to the edge of the Degners. Excellent.

Spoon next, please!

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 18:22

tigerkimi, on 03 Apr 2025 - 15:56, said:

If I remember correctly last year, it was 1 2 the RB and 3 4 ferrari

Mclaren pace was ok, but they had horrible tyre deg.

Edited by BertoC, 03 April 2025 - 18:24.


#75 917k

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 18:28

Risil, on 03 Apr 2025 - 17:00, said:

It works well for bikes. I think a bit narrow without long straights for F1. Although I seem to remember Kamui Kobayashi making pass after pass there, so maybe it's a lack of imagination on everyone else's part.

It’s just always been too hard to follow another car closely, esp through long corners like Dunlop and Spoon.



#76 rodlamas

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 18:43

One or two stops?

If two, M-H-H or M-H-M?

#77 Mc_Silver

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 18:47

rodlamas, on 03 Apr 2025 - 18:43, said:

One or two stops?

If two, M-H-H or M-H-M?


M-H-H for sure

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 20:13

PayasYouRace, on 03 Apr 2025 - 15:36, said:

At least Woking has a seminal sci-fi novel set there.

Isn't Horsell Common more Wokingham way?



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Posted 03 April 2025 - 21:31

Strange that's it's only the third race. Expecting a real pecking order this weekend. Happy for three dry practice sessions.

Pirelli front pressures down 0.5, rears up 0.5. As Murray said after Brundle's Aus 96 shunt, "Miracle of miracles!"

I simply don't understand how they mandate lower pressures at a track like Suzuka, compared to say China, or Baku. It makes no sense. My only guess is that Pirelli's true weakness is standing waves on long straights. So bizarre.

Small to medium chance the track record is broken on Saturday, considering half the track has been resurfaced.

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 21:36

I wonder if Haas will surprise. They were saying their car is good on smooth tracks. Resurfacing might help them.

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 22:11

BertoC, on 03 Apr 2025 - 18:22, said:

Mclaren pace was ok, but they had horrible tyre deg.


They also messed up Lando’s strategy, pitting him too early in the first stint and then pitting at the same time as the one stopping LeClerc in the 2nd stint!

But Lando was fastest in Sector 1 last year but lost out in the final chicane, with the team’s focus on slow speed improvement this year, hopefully we can claim the front row!

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Posted 03 April 2025 - 23:03

TomNokoe, on 03 Apr 2025 - 21:31, said:

Strange that's it's only the third race. Expecting a real pecking order this weekend. Happy for three dry practice sessions.

Pirelli front pressures down 0.5, rears up 0.5. As Murray said after Brundle's Aus 96 shunt, "Miracle of miracles!"

I simply don't understand how they mandate lower pressures at a track like Suzuka, compared to say China, or Baku. It makes no sense. My only guess is that Pirelli's true weakness is standing waves on long straights. So bizarre.

Small to medium chance the track record is broken on Saturday, considering half the track has been resurfaced.

I suspect the softest tyre being the C3 helps. At China they had to protect the C4.

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Posted 04 April 2025 - 01:37

TomNokoe, on 03 Apr 2025 - 21:31, said:

Strange that's it's only the third race. Expecting a real pecking order this weekend. Happy for three dry practice sessions.

Pirelli front pressures down 0.5, rears up 0.5. As Murray said after Brundle's Aus 96 shunt, "Miracle of miracles!"

I simply don't understand how they mandate lower pressures at a track like Suzuka, compared to say China, or Baku. It makes no sense. My only guess is that Pirelli's true weakness is standing waves on long straights. So bizarre.

Small to medium chance the track record is broken on Saturday, considering half the track has been resurfaced.

Are compounds the same? Tarmac is also different

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Posted 04 April 2025 - 02:19

Lawson doesn't seem too bothered about the demotion. I feel a bit silly for giving a **** about him now.

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Posted 04 April 2025 - 02:28

It is time.



#86 Ruusperi

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Posted 04 April 2025 - 02:29

Morning all

Isn't Suzuka beautiful :love:


Edited by Ruusperi, 04 April 2025 - 02:29.


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Posted 04 April 2025 - 02:30

RekF1, on 04 Apr 2025 - 02:19, said:

Lawson doesn't seem too bothered about the demotion. I feel a bit silly for giving a **** about him now.

Brother, he is just putting his best poker face ever to be profissional. We can absolutely feel for the man.

 

In the end, he is just still somewhat happy(delusion) to be still in Formula 1 for now and let his life go forward.


Edited by Boxerevo, 04 April 2025 - 02:30.


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Posted 04 April 2025 - 02:31

RekF1, on 04 Apr 2025 - 02:19, said:

Lawson doesn't seem too bothered about the demotion. I feel a bit silly for giving a **** about him now.

 

That's the attitude he should have. Back to the old team, put your head down and get it done. No time for crying



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Posted 04 April 2025 - 02:33

FNG, on 04 Apr 2025 - 02:31, said:

That's the attitude he should have. Back to the old team, put your head down and get it done. No time for crying

 

Correct. It's not a major deal really, and he can easily come back from it by performing strongly the rest of the year. 



#90 Ev0d3vil

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Posted 04 April 2025 - 02:49

Yuki in P5 now.



#91 ClubmanGT

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Posted 04 April 2025 - 02:54

Good time from Yuki but not a lot left in those tyres at the end of that lap.

Also lmao at Carlos missing the box. 



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Posted 04 April 2025 - 02:55

Lol, Sainz still thinking he's on Ferrari, missing his pit spot.



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Posted 04 April 2025 - 02:59

What's Russell doing?



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Posted 04 April 2025 - 03:00

Ruusperi, on 04 Apr 2025 - 02:55, said:

Lol, Sainz still thinking he's on Ferrari, missing his pit spot.

 

He did say it will take him 5-6 races to adjust 



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Posted 04 April 2025 - 03:02

Did Lawson have a time deleted? He was a bit higher than that when we came back from a break. 

 

Good time from Tsunoda on what I'm guessing is a new pair of softs. 



#96 Ev0d3vil

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Posted 04 April 2025 - 03:02

Yuki P2 on softs.



#97 Gary Davies

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Posted 04 April 2025 - 03:03

Tsunoda making Lawson's sphincter twitch.  :rotfl:



#98 Boxerevo

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Posted 04 April 2025 - 03:03

p2 Tsunoda.



#99 Benchulo

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Posted 04 April 2025 - 03:05

Tsunoda doing quite well so far!

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Posted 04 April 2025 - 03:05

It’s early, but it’s looking like Tsunoda should’ve been in that car last year.