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Posted 06 April 2025 - 20:45

“These guys aren’t walkin’, they’re racin’!” ~ Christopher Walken, Thermal 2025

01-start.jpg2025 NTT INDYCAR SERIES Round 3 of 17: The 50th Acura Grand Prix of Long Beach (feat. IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship!)

What’s up? It’s time for the classic Acura Grand Prix of Long Beach, which means two things: 1) we can finally stop talking about date palms (THANK GOD) and 2) we’re finally going to a track where Álex Palou hasn’t won a race (for now). This is the second of three INDYCAR races in California and the second in the same general region of California, so it’s a miracle one of them hasn’t perished from redundance poisoning. Given Long Beach’s proximity to Thermal, I guess you could call this a double-header of sorts? Only in INDYCAR would we have a regional double-header separated by three weeks. Only in an INDYCAR thread are we going to pass the time with a rambling discussion about supermarkets and delicatessens that ends with most of us aching for cabernet-flavored dental rinse. Thankfully, we can cleanse our palate with a race this week!

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Hey Check Out That Schedule
  
Friday, April 11
07:30 – Gates Open
07:45 – GT America Practice 1
09:00 – IMSA Practice 1
10:15 – Historic Formula Exhibition Practice
11:40 – GT America Practice 2
12:25 – Stadium SUPER Trucks Presented by F***ing Robby Gordon Practice
13:00 – IMSA Practice 2
15:05 – NTT INDYCAR SERIES Practice 1
16:35 – GT America Qualifying
17:00 – NTT INDYCAR SERIES All-Driver Autograph Session in the Paddock
17:10 – IMSA Qualifying
18:30 – Super Drift Challenge 1
18:30 – Friday Concert Starring DVBBS (OMGWTFLOLBBQ)

Saturday, April 12
07:30 – Gates Open
07:45 – Historic Formula Exhibition Practice 2
08:30 – NTT INDYCAR SERIES Practice 2
10:45 – Historic Formula Exhibition Race 1
11:30 – NTT INDYCAR SERIES Qualifying
13:00 – IMSA Pre-Race Festivities
14:00 – IMSA SportsCar Grand Prix (100 min)
16:30 – Stadium SUPER Trucks Presented by F***ing Robby Gordon Race 1
17:20 – GT America Race 1
18:30 – Super Drift Challenge 2
18:30 – Saturday Concert Starring FOREIGNER (gotta take a little time... a little time to think things over)

Sunday, April 13
07:30 – Gates Open
09:00 – NTT INDYCAR SERIES Warm-Up
10:45 – Historic Formula Exhibition Race 2
11:20 – GT America Race 2
12:15 – Mothers Exotic Car Parade
12:50 – NTT INDYCAR SERIES Pre-Race
13:15 – “DRIVERS! START!! YOUR!!! ENGINES!!!!” (this is apparently on every schedule this year)
13:30 – The 50th Acura Grand Prix of Long Beach
16:30 – Stadium SUPER Trucks Presenting by F***ing Robby Gordon Race 2

As with the last race weekend, all these times are Pacific Daylight. Go with Young Skywalker to the Tosche Station to pick up a time zone converter.

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North American and United Kingdom Viewers

If you’re in the United States, you can see the NTT INDYCAR SERIES on the FOX collection of networks. Practice and warm-up are on FOX Sports 1, qualifying is on FOX Sports 2, and the race is on your local FOX affiliate.

If you’re from That Country Up North, you can find the NTT INDYCAR SERIES on TSN or TSN+.

If you like jamming the letter u into various things, Sky Sports F1 is where you want to be.
 
International Viewers

Not sure which sketchy ass television-controlling conglomerate INDYCAR has partnered with in your country? Not to worry, INDYCAR knows!

And for the Totally Cool and Legal People

If you are so lucky that you definitely live in one of those countries with no broadcast partner for the NTT INDYCAR SERIES (I mean, all MY questionable internet activity comes from Albania, doesn’t yours?), you can subscribe to The Official Streaming Service of the NTT INDYCAR SERIES, INDYCAR Live, and get live and on-demand access to every last session as it happens, live. Can you believe it?


It’s Not Just the Beach That’s Long

06-trackmap.jpgThe track may be giving us the same kind of joy it did fifty years ago, but I guarantee you the “Family Fun Zone” isn’t.


  
Long Beach Street Circuit
First INDYCAR Race: 1984
Surface: Roads that have seen things
Turns: 11 (6 lefts, 5 rights)
Track Length: 1.968 miles
Number of Laps: 90
Race Distance: 177.12 miles
Ideal Pit Strategy: 2 stops
Qualifying Lap Record: 1:05.309, Colton Herta (2022)
Race Lap Record: 1:07.2359, Álex Palou (2024)
X: @GPLongBeach
’Winningest’ Driver: Al Unser Jr. (6 wins)
’Winningest’ Team: Team Penske, Chip Ganassi Racing (7 wins each)
’Winningest’ Engine: Honda (21 wins)
2024 Lead Changes: 8
2024 Overtakes: 168, 107 for position
2024 Yellows: 1, for 4 laps

Long Beach represents our second trip to the greater Los Angeles area, which boasts the second-largest population amongst US metropolitan centers and, depending on who you ask, a cost of living so sky-high it’s second only to Honolulu. There are good pockets and there are pockets where you’d be confronted with enough homeless junkies walking around that you’d think you’d been teleported into an episode of The Walking Dead. I guess if you don’t know the Stater Brothers from the Smothers Brothers, or the Statler Brothers, or even Hey Brother Baker, you would think we’re in the City of Brotherly Love (oh brother)—but this is California, baby! So enjoy your $23 hot dogs, exorbitant sales taxes, overbearing social programs, and ubiquitous monolithic bureaucratic institutions, because you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.

07-hotel-california.jpgIf you don’t know what you’re looking at, I can’t help you.

Long Beach wasn’t always the idyllic, kid-friendly celebration of cars and racing that it is today. It was once a port town inhabited by loads of morally flexible folk and a good place to find more than one kind of dishonorable discharge, as well as ladies who were known as “Hamburger Queens” (hint: they were neither Tiffany-twisted nor had Mercedes-Benzes). History records Long Beach as being rough, bouncy, tight, and racy—and that’s just the track. Seriously, it was bad, not unlike some of the cesspits the hardcore racers amongst us may have visited in their time—but how did we end up in this particular cesspit?

The Grand Prix of Long Beach was the bastard brainspawn of renegade expat travel agent Chris Pook and down-on-his-luck bike-commuting physics major Jim Michaelian, and began life as a pitch to revitalize the area to its former glory. While most people with hefty bags of coin have little patience for such aspirational bullshit, with support from Dan Gurney—and the help of Bernie Ecclestone threatening an international incident to strong-arm the California Coastal Commission and potentially deep-six the presidential campaign of then-California governor Jerry Brown—the race went from hemorrhaging money as a Formula 5000 race in 1975 to spending the next eight years as a Formula One Grand Prix, after which it became a CART event raced by Indy cars and has remained so in some form ever since. The track assembly is a suicidal, around-the-clock, eight week ordeal that involves placing barriers and dropping 100,000 lb bridges in and around the utter hell that is SoCal traffic, but the sheer inertia behind the prestige of this race being second only to the Indianapolis 500 in US racing is enough to keep it going.

Tell Me What Happened Here Last Year!

“Today, it was really fun driving my Honda.” ~ Scott Dixon, Long Beach 2024



Former forklift expert Felix Rosenvqvist captured Meyer Shank Racing’s first INDYCAR pole position and led the field to the start alongside Will Power. The race was a bit of a noob massacre, with only a single non-winner finishing amongst the Top 10, and an INDYCAR strategy classic, with a single full-course yellow caused by Christian Rasmussen on Lap 15 setting the stage for a battle of the eggheads. While Power led a gaggle of Hondas into the pits on a fuel-saving route to the flag, the rest of the field elected not to stop and run full rich to the end. If you’re a regular here, you probably knew where this was going as soon as I said “fuel-saving”, and you’d be correct, as Scott Dixon withstood insane pressure from Josef Newgarden and then Colton Herta on a 34-lap economy run that looked anything but to reach the flag and claim his second win at Long Beach.

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And Where Did We Leave Off Last Race?

“Do you like surfing?”
“No. It seems like a great way to get eaten by a shark.”

~ Will Buxton and James Hinchcliffe, Thermal Practice 2, 2025

Our cadre of INDYCAR adventurers visited the gated community of Thermal, where we got to watch 85% of a race and imagine the other 15%. Newly christened as a points-paying venue, The Thermal Club for the Rich and Famous (Rich AF, if you will) was hosting its first proper round of the NTT INDYCAR SERIES. Things were a little cheesy before the race, but became a little less grating when we got to see FOX’s fancy new ghost car technology. The weekend began poorly for Prema when Robert Shwartzman’s car self-immolated, and proceeded to go even worse for Team Penske, who were uncharacteristically sent packing from Q1 with one of their worst collective qualifying efforts since the 1995 Indy 500. I guess at least this time it was only in front of 3,000 fans. McLaren locked out the front row, with Pato O’Ward claiming his first NTT P1 Award of the season using a duckload of speed, and teammate Christian Lundgaard lining up beside him.

The start of the race was a less orderly affair, with Scott McLaughlin and Devlin deFrancesco Dracone playing a game of chicken on their way up to the pack that ultimately ended with deFrancesco making a move that looked like an audition for an episode of Jackass, T-boning McLaughlin and ruining any hope either had for a good result. After the race, McLaughlin rampaged over to Dammit Devlin’s pit box (it’s OK Devlin, I thought my name was Dammit when I was growing up too) and the two of them exchanged pleasantries. I’m not sure why Scotty Mac was trying to give Newgarden a run for his title of World’s Nicest Asshole, but it was entertaining at least.

10-you-got-a-drive-through-for-a-reason.Scotty Mac would be wise to heed the advice of Friedrich Schiller: “against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain”.

Despite all the dust and bodywork spraying awkwardly out into space, none of this was dramatic enough to trigger the interference of a full-course yellow—and ultimately, nothing that happened would be. Everyone settled into a pretty stable rhythm, running several seconds apart from one another as if they were in an F1 race from 2003. Perhaps somewhat like a race from that bygone time, this dull period was enlivened by off-track chaos, not in the form of a fanatical priest but as an overheating issue that zapped the TV feed for about 10 laps in the middle of the race (the clue to prepare for that was in the name of the venue guys). The pictures started tweaking like the head of a dying fembot in Austin Powers before meeting the same tragic fate, and all manner of hell broke loose as INDYCAR viewers around the world were variously subjected to advertisements for trashy reality TV, commentators horsing around, and—God help us all—NASCAR.

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I’m not exactly sure what’s going on here but if you told me it was happening while the FOX broadcast was scrambling to get its signal back I’d believe you.


As sanity prevailed and pictures—of INDYCAR racing, thankfully—befell our eyes, we quickly caught up with everything we missed, which turned out to be... nothing. After 10 laps, the gaps were static, O’Ward was still leading, and the race was miraculously still going on. Not that it was easy to determine any of that with FOX’s graphics, mind you. Almost certainly by accident, FOX had stumbled onto a winning formula for dull races—just remove all relevant information for the viewer, and even a procession seems unpredictable!

13-with-all-due-respect-to-mr-adams.jpgThat’s a relief—I was worried they’d spent some of those laps on pogo sticks.

It was tough going. Alas, when all hope seemed lost, Harbinger of Lost Hopes Álex Palou, who up to this point surely must have spent the race searching for his car keys, delivered us from the rampant boredom and enlivened the show, with a multi-corner attempt to get the better of Lundgaard that was probably as ill-advised as it was legendary. With Palou in second place and on the preferred tire, hauling in O’Ward at over two seconds each lap like he found the secret hammer suit power-up in the hidden ? block room underneath pit lane, O’Ward probably felt a bit like the ghosts in Pac-Man do when you get the power pellet—what I’m trying to say is it looked like some video game shit, like he’d OD’d on Rocket Fuel Malt Liquor (DAAAAAAMNNN).

The result was all but inescapable, as our Conquistador of Concrete proved he’s also an Annihilator of Asphalt. When it was all said and done, Palou’s mythological ability to evade misfortune meant he still had a 100% win rate at Thermal.

14-one-hundred-percent.jpgLet’s be honest, he could’ve stopped to fix the TV feed and it’d still have ended this way.

The Verdict
Better than: Half the field driving around off the pace waiting for half-time
Not as good as: A race where fans show up
Wait for it: Farmer Wants a Wife: INDYCAR Edition


The Story So Far

NTT INDYCAR SERIES

1st – Álex Palou (102 pts)
2nd – Pato O’Ward (63 pts)
3rd – Scott Dixon (61 pts)
4th – Christian Lundgaard (60 pts)
5th – Felix Rosenqvist (56 pts)
6th – Kyle Kirkwood (54 pts)
7th – Josef Newgarden (53 pts)
8th – Colton Herta (47 pts)
9th – Alexander Rossi (43 pts)
10th – Scott McLaughlin (41 pts)

It’s already looking pretty bad for anyone not named “Palou”, but nothing is certain in this euphoric swirl of divine chaos we call INDYCAR—Dixon lost a 61-point lead to World’s Douchiest Nice Guy Josef Newgarden over 5 races in 2017. It’s still anybody’s game.

NTT INDYCAR SERIES Fantasy Challenge Driven by Firestone

1st – Cig35Racing (1351 pts)
2nd – Bring Back Villeneuve (1348 pts)
3rd – No Ordinary Rabbit (1329 pts)
4th – Stuey Racing (1326 pts)
5th – Loup Garou Racing (1313 pts)
6th – Lilynator (1272 pts)
7th – JellyFishCake (1265 pts)
8th – tpatricio (1263 pts)
9th – prommer (1244 pts)
10th – Teamy! (1234 pts)

THIS GAME IS DEVISED AS A SKILL AND KNOWLEDGE-BASED, NON-GAMBLING PROMOTION AND IS INTENDED SOLELY FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES

Got all that? Good, ‘cause we’ve got TWO, count ‘em, TWO races this weekend!


Whack That Devil Into My Fiddlestick

NTT INDYCAR SERIES

“It can get messy quick here at Long Beach.” ~ Pato O’Ward, Long Beach 2024

Most will probably be wondering if we’ll actually get a championship battle this year. Álex Palou has never won at Long Beach, but that doesn’t mean a thing when it comes to Palou and winning. Elsewhere in the field, we’ve got intra-team battles galore, with O’Ward vs. Lundgaard for control of McLaren, Newgarden vs. Power vs. McLaughlin in their eternal struggle for Penske supremacy, and Colton Herta vs. Andretti Global’s operational efficiency in a battle for his own sanity. Meyer Shank has been sneakily good this year, and like Takuma Sato, seems to excel on INDYCAR’s biggest stages. Alexander Rossi has had a quiet resurgence at ECR, RLL continues to chase its tail amongst the arrival of former INDYCAR president Jay Frye, and Prema continues its literal baptism by fire. Amongst it all lurks Dixon, who was uncharacteristically fiery on and off track in St. Pete and not unreasonably behind Palou the last time we were on the streets.

All of this brewing in the background means that with every passing lap the probability of a car ending up in the fountain approaches 1—except maybe it’s one of those functions where it only advances in 1/2 increments so it never actually gets there. Who’d want to hurt those adorable checkered-flag flower patches anyway?

IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship

“I cannot touch balls.” ~ IMSA Driver Ryan Dalziel

The Nick Tandy Show premier IMSA series takes to the streets on Saturday, with just the GTP class (11 cars) and GTD class (16 cars) in attendance for a 100-minute sprint event. In GTP, Porsche looks to keep its perfect season going as Nick Tandy and Felipe Nasr seek a third straight win, while teammates Matt Campbell and Mathieu Jaminet try to snag the first win of the year for car #6. One wonders why Mr. Super Six isn’t in the #6 Porsche, but they’ll probably sort that out next year. Acura enters Long Beach looking to overturn a nightmare home result from last year, while BMW and one-lap ace Dries Vanthoor continue to search for a way to translate their qualifying dominance into results. You’re going to forget all of this the moment you hear the Aston Martin Valkyrie.



Meanwhile in GTD—presumably chosen as the complimentary class for this weekend because it’s NOT full of dentists—we’ve seen an uptick in entries. AO Racing’s Rexy (it’s a Porsche painted like a dinosaur, what’s not to love) enters its first GTD event with Laurens Vanthoor and is joined by multiple Lexii from former INDYCAR entrants Vasser Sullivan Racing. GTD also sees our old friend Robert Wickens back in action during an INDYCAR race weekend, making his IMSA WeatherTech debut driving for DXDT Racing in a Corvette equipped with hand controls.

So long as it doesn’t all end like this, I think we’ll be OK:




The Regular Features

The Official Unofficial NTT INDYCAR SERIES Mad Lib

It’s hard enough to predict what will happen in most NTT INDYCAR SERIES races, but here’s your chance to try! Grab a bowl of your favorite breakfast cereal and fill in the blanks below to tell the story of the 50th Grand Prix of Long Beach in (mostly) your own words:

It was a ___________ day in Long Beach, which had the field feeling __________ about the race. As the drivers came to the start stand the ___________ flag was waved, and the race was _________________________. When they finally approached Turn 1, _______________ managed to ________________ his braking point on the inside of __________________, forcing him into ___________________. Will Power yelled _______________ on the radio, after displaying _________________ to __________________. Once we’d moved on from the incident, the race was __________________, and everyone’s strategies were _________________. This prompted _________ to save fuel until ____________________ encountered Santino Ferrucci ____________________ aggressively in the braking zone at Turn 9, angrily waving his _______________ for the world to see. There was debris on the track and race control decided to _______________________, playing directly into the hands of ________. The weather being ___________ gave an advantage to ______________ who had stopped _________________________ his engineers just long enough to drive over a ______________ on pit lane. Rather than penalizing him with a __________________ he was given a post-race __________________. _______________ had the moment of the race when he _______________ right up into ______________, narrowly avoiding _______________ but unfortunately the TV director missed it because he was busy focusing on some _____________________________ near the aquarium. With ____________________ out of contention and the laps ticking down, the race was quickly becoming a duel between Palou and __________________, who had benefitted from __________________________________________________ a forklift. On the final lap, Palou and ____________________ went side-by-side into the _________________ miraculously missing the ________________ and causing the audience to __________________________. ___________________ had blown his ___________________ but was not to be deterred, rallying forward and gaining _________ positions, but none of it was enough to stop Palou, who had ___________________________ into the tires to hold off __________________________ and save his ____________________ for when he needed it. All in all, it was a ______________ race!

Desire Answers For Unasked Questions? (aka DAFUQ?)

- The Long Beach circuit is 148 miles from The Thermal Club—excluding the IMS oval and road course combo, the only two tracks on the INDYCAR calendar closer than this are the Milwaukee Mile and Road America at a 60 mile distance.
- The Grand Prix of Long Beach has been held in 7 different layouts.
- The Grand Prix of Long Beach has been run in April 43 times. It wasn’t run in April in 1975 (September), 1976, 1980, 1981, 1983, 1984 (March), and 2020 (September).
- If a McLaren driver wins the race, they will join John Watson and Niki Lauda as McLaren winners here.
- Mario Andretti and Al Unser Jr. have more wins here (10) than all other American drivers combined (9).
- With an unprecedented 15-race streak dating back to 2009, Dallara has won at Long Beach more than any other chassis manufacturer.
- This year’s IMSA race is the 20th IMSA-sanctioned race at Long Beach (Grand-Am was a one-time support act prior to its IMSA merger and sanction in 2006).
- GM has the most overall IMSA wins here with 8, and ties Honda for the longest overall winning streak for an engine manufacturer here in either IMSA or INDYCAR with 7 straight wins from 2015-2022 (Honda won all but one post-split CART race here, with a streak from 1996-2002). Since the UAK-18 was introduced, GM has won just one INDYCAR race here.
- Porsche Penske Motorsport managing director and Indy 500-winning engineer Jonathan Diuguid has a palindromic last name.
- Simon Pagenaud and Sébastien Bourdais are the only two drivers who have won at Long Beach in both IMSA and open-wheel competition.
- One-time INDYCAR podium finisher EJ Viso won the Stadium SUPER Trucks Presented by F***ing Robby Gordon race in 2015.
- From 1977 to 2016, a staple of the Grand Prix of Long Beach was a 10-lap celebrity pro-am race in showroom stock cars, during which professional drivers competed against celebrities who received a 30-second head start. Notable celebrity winners who also managed an overall win include Caitlyn Jenner (x2), Jason Bateman, Donny Osmond, Alfonso Ribeiro (x3), Dara Torres, and Jamie Little. Alfonso Ribeiro had the most overall wins at 4, winning once as a professional.
- At 177.12 miles, this year’s edition will be the longest Grand Prix of Long Beach since 2003.
- 17712 is the number for an ISO standard describing mechanical seals in freight containers.

You Wish You Had...

... a badass alter ego like Dwight Brody.

Take a Drink Every Time...

… someone complains about the cartoon heads on the scoring pylon.

Do You Remember...

... when Christian Lundgaard tried to look like a porn star?

Anagram of the Day:

Louis Foster / Loose Fruits


Fun at the Beach

FOX Sports proudly declares that "Jim Michaelian has done it all in 50 years at Long Beach,” which leads me to wonder if their headline editor is aware of how that could be read given the history of the venue in question. Perhaps the fact that tens of millions of people have stories from this event dating back half a century is an indicator that, just maybe, it really is America’s #1 street race®. Though the cars that race here have changed through the years, we’re more than fortunate to be able to *unh* double-up *unh-unh* every year with IMSA and INDYCAR, two series whose names are all capital letters, but only one of those because those letters are an acronym for anything. Then again, if INDYCAR isn’t actually an acronym for “I Never Doubted You Cared About Racing,” it damn well should be.

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... huh?

Yes, I know there’s a week to go until the race. You’re bored? You want me to do something about it? Maybe try reading the OP again as one of Long Beach’s natives might...

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#2 FLB

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Posted 06 April 2025 - 20:47

I'm  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  at the ad lib section!



#3 FLB

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Posted 06 April 2025 - 20:49

There will be historic IndyCar:

 

 


Edited by FLB, 06 April 2025 - 20:51.


#4 red stick

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Posted 06 April 2025 - 21:11

Newgarden Naysayers have found their leader! Now we just have to figure out where to meet.

Edited by red stick, 06 April 2025 - 21:13.


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Posted 06 April 2025 - 21:58

It was a _Wednes_ day in Long Beach, which had the field feeling _confused_ about the race. As the drivers came to the start stand the _Nigerian_ flag was waved, and the race was _streamed in a legal manner_. When they finally approached Turn 1, _Dalton Kellett_ managed to _book_ his braking point on the inside of _the car park_, forcing him into _parking in Turn 1_. Will Power yelled _SATOOOOOO!!!!!11111one_ on the radio, after displaying _unwanted affection_ to _the Turn 3 fountain_. Once we’d moved on from the incident, the race was _charged with harassing protected animals under the Marine Mammal Protection Act_, and everyone’s strategies were _fined in excess of $5000_. This prompted _no-one_ to save fuel until _a group of angry protestors_ encountered Santino Ferrucci _standing_ aggressively in the braking zone at Turn 9, angrily waving his _signed picture of Ralph Firman_ for the world to see. There was debris on the track and race control decided to _go down the local Steak 'n' Shake_, playing directly into the hands of _Graham Rahal_. The weather being _Canadian_ gave an advantage to _James Hinchcliffe_ who had stopped _imagining_ his engineers just long enough to drive over a _Firestone Firehawk_ on pit lane. Rather than penalizing him with a _bad Christopher Walken impression_ he was given a post-race _"disappearance"_. _Will Buxton_ had the moment of the race when he _puked_ right up into _the Hate Cauldron_, narrowly avoiding _referencing Odiham as a "hamlet"_ but unfortunately the TV director missed it because he was busy focusing on some _Rutledge Wood_ near the aquarium. With _my comedic "talent"_ out of contention and the laps ticking down, the race was quickly becoming a duel between Palou and _Jean Alesi_, who had benefitted from _fitting the Lotus IndyCar engine to something more worthy of its fate, that being_ a forklift. On the final lap, Palou and _Frood_ went side-by-side into the _IndyCar thread_ miraculously missing the _whole point_ and causing the audience to _post IndyCat_. _Tony Kanaan_ had blown his _pension_ but was not to be deterred, rallying forward and gaining _leveraged_ positions, but none of it was enough to stop Palou, who had _carved offensive messages_ into the tires to hold off _Colonel Sanders_ and save his _fried chicken_ for when he needed it. All in all, it was a _IndyCar_ race!



#6 jonpollak

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Posted 06 April 2025 - 22:12

My fifth grade English teacher used to hand out Mad-Lib assignments every Thursday

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#7 paulb

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Posted 06 April 2025 - 22:12

I’m looking forward to the mad lib that comes closest to the race.

 

50, huh? I’m sure my brother has been a vast majority of the races, including probably all the F1 events. I saw most of the F1 events, including the final when John Watson came from the back of the field for victory. Anyone remember Trans Am, including Audis? Love the weekend. Only AB could capture the fun and chaos that is the LBGP.



#8 paulb

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Posted 06 April 2025 - 22:14

It was a _Wednes_ day in Long Beach, which had the field feeling _confused_ about the race. As the drivers came to the start stand the _Nigerian_ flag was waved, and the race was _streamed in a legal manner_. When they finally approached Turn 1, _Dalton Kellett_ managed to _book_ his braking point on the inside of _the car park_, forcing him into _parking in Turn 1_. Will Power yelled _SATOOOOOO!!!!!11111one_ on the radio, after displaying _unwanted affection_ to _the Turn 3 fountain_. Once we’d moved on from the incident, the race was _charged with harassing protected animals under the Marine Mammal Protection Act_, and everyone’s strategies were _fined in excess of $5000_. This prompted _no-one_ to save fuel until _a group of angry protestors_ encountered Santino Ferrucci _standing_ aggressively in the braking zone at Turn 9, angrily waving his _signed picture of Ralph Firman_ for the world to see. There was debris on the track and race control decided to _go down the local Steak 'n' Shake_, playing directly into the hands of _Graham Rahal_. The weather being _Canadian_ gave an advantage to _James Hinchcliffe_ who had stopped _imagining_ his engineers just long enough to drive over a _Firestone Firehawk_ on pit lane. Rather than penalizing him with a _bad Christopher Walken impression_ he was given a post-race _"disappearance"_. _Will Buxton_ had the moment of the race when he _puked_ right up into _the Hate Cauldron_, narrowly avoiding _referencing Odiham as a "hamlet"_ but unfortunately the TV director missed it because he was busy focusing on some _Rutledge Wood_ near the aquarium. With _my comedic "talent"_ out of contention and the laps ticking down, the race was quickly becoming a duel between Palou and _Jean Alesi_, who had benefitted from _fitting the Lotus IndyCar engine to something more worthy of its fate, that being_ a forklift. On the final lap, Palou and _Frood_ went side-by-side into the _IndyCar thread_ miraculously missing the _whole point_ and causing the audience to _post IndyCat_. _Tony Kanaan_ had blown his _pension_ but was not to be deterred, rallying forward and gaining _leveraged_ positions, but none of it was enough to stop Palou, who had _carved offensive messages_ into the tires to hold off _Colonel Sanders_ and save his _fried chicken_ for when he needed it. All in all, it was a _IndyCar_ race!

You said Ralph Firman. And I thought being a Jordan F1 fan had no utility.



#9 Afterburner

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Posted 06 April 2025 - 22:26

Ralph Firman

That we somehow managed to go from reading "F1 race from 2003" to manifesting the image of Santino Ferrucci pitching an on-track tantrum involving an autographed picture of Ralph Firman is why I love these threads so much. :lol:



#10 FLB

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Posted 06 April 2025 - 22:28

It was a hot and muggy day in Long Beach, which had the field feeling sweaty about the race. As the drivers came to the start stand the brown flag was waved, and the race was stopped because somebody had crossed the border and eaten Mexican food. When they finally approached Turn 1, PATTTTOOOOOOOO!!! managed to forget his braking point on the inside of Dixon, forcing him into the pits on Lap 1. Will Power yelled **** Dixon will win again! on the radio, after displaying an understanding to his race engineer that of course Dixon would use the opportunity to make fuel. Once we’d moved on from the incident, the race was green flagged, and everyone’s strategies were frakked, except for Dixon. This prompted Dixon to save fuel until Newgarden encountered Santino Ferrucci weaving aggressively in the braking zone at Turn 9, angrily wagging his finger at the Young American™ for the world to see. There was debris on the track and race control decided to do nothing, playing directly into the hands of Team Penske. The weather being so damn hot gave an advantage to Dixon who had stopped talking to his engineers just long enough to drive over a hose on pit lane. Rather than penalizing him with a loss of points he was given a post-race stern warning. Dixon had the moment of the race when he forgot to key his radio right up into the last lap, narrowly avoiding DeFrancesco driving so slowly it felt like he was in another time zone but unfortunately the TV director missed it because he was busy focusing on some flowers near the aquarium. With all Andretti cars out of contention and the laps ticking down, the race was quickly becoming a duel between Palou and Palou 1.0 (aka Dixon), who had benefitted from a forklift. On the final lap, Palou and Dixon went side-by-side into the first corner miraculously missing the fountain and causing the audience to wish ABC still showed the race a week late..Chip Ganassi had blown his nose because he had the flu but was not to be deterred, rallying forward and gaining team championship positions, but none of it was enough to stop Palou, who had dumped McLaughlin into the tires to hold off Team Penske and save his team boss for when he needed it. All in all, it was a race!



#11 red stick

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 03:22

It was a dark and stormy day in Long Beach, which had the field feeling edgy about the race. As the drivers came to the start stand the yellow flag was waved, and the race was a multi-lap game of follow the pace car. When they finally approached Turn 1, Ilott managed to mistake the throttle for the brake, missing his braking point on the inside of the course, forcing him into the Queen Mary. Will Power yelled “Anything flying that far should have a stewardess” on the radio, after displaying his favorite salute (if he broke his middle finger, he’d be instantly rendered mute), to the assembled wankerdom. Once we’d moved on from the incident, the race was halted to honor the frogmen deployed to save Callum, and everyone’s strategies were at the bottom of Queensway Bay (bit of local colo[u]r). This prompted Dixon, I mean seriously, who else, to save fuel until he, I mean seriously, who else, encountered Santino Ferrucci weaving aggressively in the braking zone at Turn 9, angrily waving his A.J. Foyt action figure for the world to see. There was debris on the track and race control decided to go full course yellow, on top of the existing yellow, playing directly into the hands of Brian Barnhart, the only person to approve of the move. The weather being increasingly soggy gave an advantage to Palou, we are, after all, living in the 2020s, who had stopped praising his engineers just long enough to drive over a frogman’s errant oxygen tank on pit lane. Rather than penalizing him with an immediate DQ, and I don’t mean Dairy Queen franchise, he was given a post-race anti-achievement trophy, because all he does this year is collect hardware. Ilott had the moment of the race when he (seriously, have we already forgotten his moonshot right up into the Queen Mary), narrowly avoiding the long-abandoned Spruce Goose display area (bit of local nostalgia), but unfortunately the TV director missed it because he was busy focusing on some driver’s second and third cousins partying near the aquarium. With the usual half the field out of contention and the laps ticking down, the race was quickly becoming a duel between Palou and Newgarden (it’s my fantasy mad-lib), who had benefitted from the usual Penske genius, this time involving an unfair advantage derived from years of contemplating racing a forklift. On the final lap, Palou and our boy Josef went side-by-side into the final turn miraculously missing the Goodyear blimp, which had descended precariously close to the track seeking other obscure driver’s relations to film, and causing the audience to nervously recall the movie, Black Sunday. Alexander Rossi had blown his cautious pessimism but was not to be deterred, rallying forward and gaining 10 positions, but none of it was enough to stop Palou, who had in an uncharacteristic move, forced Newgarden into the tires to hold off what was looking like his first defeat (as if!) and save his incredible run of fortune (much of which Marshall Pruett is convinced he'll shortly be turning over to Zak Brown) for when he needed it. All in all, it was a very, very, very IndyCar!! race!


Edited by red stick, 07 April 2025 - 03:45.


#12 red stick

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 03:46

Thanks AB!  This is fun.   :cool:



#13 loki

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 04:22

Mad lib.  Epic.



#14 BRG

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 09:15

What’s up? It’s time for the classic Acura Grand Prix of Long Beach, which means two things: 1) we can finally stop talking about date palms (THANK GOD) and 2) we’re finally going to a track where Álex Palou hasn’t won a race (for now). 
 

!) There are no date palms in southern LA?  Boo!

2) Alex says "Hold my beer"


 

It;s about time the divine Ms B was featured in an Indycar OP.  Long term omission finally alleviated.  :clap:



#15 jonpollak

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 10:25

It;s about time the divine Ms B was featured in an Indycar OP. Long term omission finally alleviated. :clap:


????
Kate was prominent in the last race thread and has been our muse on the threads for a while now.

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Edited by jonpollak, 07 April 2025 - 10:36.


#16 paulb

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 11:56

I pity the Autosport forum participants who avoid Indycar race topics. What they are missing. :love:


Edited by paulb, 07 April 2025 - 11:56.


#17 Alan Lewis

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 12:30

????
Kate...has been our muse on the threads for a while now.

Jp


Alas,poor Karen...

Edited by Alan Lewis, 07 April 2025 - 12:31.


#18 red stick

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 12:32

I pity the Autosport forum participants who avoid Indycar race topics. What they are missing. :love:

They are likely cowed
by these displays of verbal
virtuosity.

:smoking:

#19 red stick

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 12:58

Alas,poor Karen...


Still in our hearts, not so much in our threads . . .

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#20 eibyyz

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 13:31

It was a _Wednes_ day in Long Beach, which had the field feeling _confused_ about the race. As the drivers came to the start stand the _Nigerian_ flag was waved, and the race was _streamed in a legal manner_. When they finally approached Turn 1, _Dalton Kellett_ managed to _book_ his braking point on the inside of _the car park_, forcing him into _parking in Turn 1_. Will Power yelled _SATOOOOOO!!!!!11111one_ on the radio, after displaying _unwanted affection_ to _the Turn 3 fountain_. Once we’d moved on from the incident, the race was _charged with harassing protected animals under the Marine Mammal Protection Act_, and everyone’s strategies were _fined in excess of $5000_. This prompted _no-one_ to save fuel until _a group of angry protestors_ encountered Santino Ferrucci _standing_ aggressively in the braking zone at Turn 9, angrily waving his _signed picture of Ralph Firman_ for the world to see. There was debris on the track and race control decided to _go down the local Steak 'n' Shake_, playing directly into the hands of _Graham Rahal_. The weather being _Canadian_ gave an advantage to _James Hinchcliffe_ who had stopped _imagining_ his engineers just long enough to drive over a _Firestone Firehawk_ on pit lane. Rather than penalizing him with a _bad Christopher Walken impression_ he was given a post-race _"disappearance"_. _Will Buxton_ had the moment of the race when he _puked_ right up into _the Hate Cauldron_, narrowly avoiding _referencing Odiham as a "hamlet"_ but unfortunately the TV director missed it because he was busy focusing on some _Rutledge Wood_ near the aquarium. With _my comedic "talent"_ out of contention and the laps ticking down, the race was quickly becoming a duel between Palou and _Jean Alesi_, who had benefitted from _fitting the Lotus IndyCar engine to something more worthy of its fate, that being_ a forklift. On the final lap, Palou and _Frood_ went side-by-side into the _IndyCar thread_ miraculously missing the _whole point_ and causing the audience to _post IndyCat_. _Tony Kanaan_ had blown his _pension_ but was not to be deterred, rallying forward and gaining _leveraged_ positions, but none of it was enough to stop Palou, who had _carved offensive messages_ into the tires to hold off _Colonel Sanders_ and save his _fried chicken_ for when he needed it. All in all, it was a _IndyCar_ race!

 

There is no Steak 'n Shake "local" to Long Beach, unless you want to consider Victorville local and I don't...

In the past ten years, the company has gone downhill, a crying shame.



#21 jonpollak

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 14:21

Alas,poor Karen...


She never recovered from her trip to the Snake Pit back in 2016
Poor thing still doesn’t walk right.
Jp

#22 Sterzo

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 14:25

Kate was prominent in the last race thread and has been our muse on the threads for a while now.

If only she had a number on her she could have been pictured on the countdown thread, for when she performed at Hammersmith I woz there. (Twice).



#23 BRG

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 14:39

????
Kate was prominent in the last race thread and has been our muse on the threads for a while now.

Jp

But in race OPs?   



#24 paulb

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 14:44

It was a _dark and stormy_ day in Long Beach, which had the field feeling _electric_ about the race. As the drivers came to the start stand the _anvil_ flag was waved, and the race was _thrust into history_. When they finally approached Turn 1, _Wil-e-Ferrucci_ managed to _bungle_ his braking point on the inside of _St. Ingray_, forcing him into _the heavens_. Will Power yelled _hallelujah_ on the radio, after displaying _his arse_ to _ignorant critics_. Once we’d moved on from the incident, the race was _a sea of calm_, and everyone’s strategies were _useless_. This prompted _Rossi_ to save fuel until _Malukas_ encountered Santino Ferrucci _smiling_ aggressively in the braking zone at Turn 9, angrily waving his _left pinky finger_ for the world to see. There was debris on the track and race control decided to _decide_, playing directly into the hands of _All-State Insurance_. The weather _being dark and stormy (still)_ gave an advantage to _Robert Schwartzman_ who had stopped _singing with_ his engineers just long enough to drive over a _ceramic dolphin_ on pit lane. Rather than penalizing him with a _stop-and-flipper_ he was given a post-race _wedgie_. _Graham Rahal_ had the moment of the race when he _coasted_ right up into _the fountain_, narrowly avoiding _a real dolphin_ but unfortunately the TV director missed it because he was busy focusing on some _turkey leg vendor_ near the aquarium. With _Rahal_ out of contention and the laps ticking down, the race was quickly becoming a duel between Palou and _Rossi_, who had benefitted from _catapulting over_ a forklift. On the final lap, Palou and _Rossi and Power_ went side-by-side into the _number nine turn_ miraculously missing the _porta potties behind the barriers_ and causing the audience to _smell a sigh of relief_. _Rossi_ had blown his _bubble gum_ but was not to be deterred, rallying forward and gaining _race_ positions, but none of it was enough to stop Palou, who had _gentlemanly-punted Rossi_ into the tires to hold off _Will Power_ and save his _chicken-powered hybrid battery_ for when he needed it. All in all, it was a _clucked-up_ race!

 

Editorial note: I had not read red sticks mad lib before (cough-cough) composing mine.


Edited by paulb, 07 April 2025 - 14:46.


#25 red stick

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 15:54

Just discovered that there is a 1960 horror film with the same title, so, for those not familiar with the Thomas Harris novel or the 1977 movie:

 

 

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Edited by red stick, 07 April 2025 - 15:55.


#26 FLB

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 16:02

If only she had a number on her she could have been pictured on the countdown thread, for when she performed at Hammersmith I woz there. (Twice).

Oh the (Hammer) Horror:p  :cat:



#27 red stick

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 16:05

It was a _dark and stormy_ day in Long Beach, which had the field feeling _electric_ about the race. As the drivers came to the start stand the _anvil_ flag was waved, and the race was _thrust into history_. When they finally approached Turn 1, _Wil-e-Ferrucci_ managed to _bungle_ his braking point on the inside of _St. Ingray_, forcing him into _the heavens_. Will Power yelled _hallelujah_ on the radio, after displaying _his arse_ to _ignorant critics_. Once we’d moved on from the incident, the race was _a sea of calm_, and everyone’s strategies were _useless_. This prompted _Rossi_ to save fuel until _Malukas_ encountered Santino Ferrucci _smiling_ aggressively in the braking zone at Turn 9, angrily waving his _left pinky finger_ for the world to see. There was debris on the track and race control decided to _decide_, playing directly into the hands of _All-State Insurance_. The weather _being dark and stormy (still)_ gave an advantage to _Robert Schwartzman_ who had stopped _singing with_ his engineers just long enough to drive over a _ceramic dolphin_ on pit lane. Rather than penalizing him with a _stop-and-flipper_ he was given a post-race _wedgie_. _Graham Rahal_ had the moment of the race when he _coasted_ right up into _the fountain_, narrowly avoiding _a real dolphin_ but unfortunately the TV director missed it because he was busy focusing on some _turkey leg vendor_ near the aquarium. With _Rahal_ out of contention and the laps ticking down, the race was quickly becoming a duel between Palou and _Rossi_, who had benefitted from _catapulting over_ a forklift. On the final lap, Palou and _Rossi and Power_ went side-by-side into the _number nine turn_ miraculously missing the _porta potties behind the barriers_ and causing the audience to _smell a sigh of relief_. _Rossi_ had blown his _bubble gum_ but was not to be deterred, rallying forward and gaining _race_ positions, but none of it was enough to stop Palou, who had _gentlemanly-punted Rossi_ into the tires to hold off _Will Power_ and save his _chicken-powered hybrid battery_ for when he needed it. All in all, it was a _clucked-up_ race!

 

Editorial note: I had not read red sticks mad lib before (cough-cough) composing mine.

Years of reading Peanuts cartoons depicting Snoopy struggling with his literary opus will inevitably lead to knowing that the only proper beginning is, "It was a dark and stormy . . ."  :D    



#28 Jim Thurman

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 17:35

There is no Steak 'n Shake "local" to Long Beach, unless you want to consider Victorville local and I don't...

In the past ten years, the company has gone downhill, a crying shame.

Yep, got to go with In-N-Out for the So Cal ref.

 

Steak 'n Shake didn't permeate the So Cal market. Oddly, years ago, my brother and I stopped in to the Victorville location, as he wanted to try a Steak 'n Shake burger.



#29 Jim Thurman

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 18:01

An OP that was truly "the best of times and the worst of times."

 

The good. Mad libs. Brilliant  :up:  A good chortle at the "dishonorable discharge" line.

 

The bad: Geography that would make Risil's waterway errors seem spot-on  :p  ...and a 'tude that goes beyond "all in good fun." Makes me question the eagerness at wishing to do the OP   ;)

 

Thermal is not even remotely, even now, considered part of "Greater Los Angeles." Fontana would apply, Thermal does not. Three races in California?! Gosh. How horrible. Especially since two are 400 plus miles apart.

 

Long Beach was run down in the 70s, and rather decrepit, but it was hardly full of perverted degenerates fondling themselves on the street. There were some seedy parts, much like how homeless aren't everywhere despite what certain "news" might tell you. As you mentioned, it was a port and Navy town, so (like many other places) there were tattoo parlors (which in those days were in the places they only used to be), and bars, and drunken sailors, all of which were integrated into the fun zone amusement park, Nu-Pike, which made for an interesting milieu  :)  Like when they found a mummified body of an outlaw at Nu-Pike.

 

My memories of Long Beach involve many elderly, some British (though not nearly as much as Santa Monica), driving their electric carts like maniacs on the sidewalks, which was perfectly legal, and yes, did result in pedestrians being run down and other fatal collisions. There also was Acres of Books, which the family stopped at a few times.

 

Much of the rest comes off smarmy, somewhat mean-spirited, derisive and rather mocking (not in a good way), even personally so. Booo! Boo! (the only OP worthy of booing) Though I freely admit to the sales taxes, particularly since I currently reside in the city with the highest sales tax in the state  :well: Oh, and the traffic, though the LBGP only impacts local traffic on those specific streets, so...less than a normal day elsewhere around the metroplex  :lol:

 

Afterburner, what have I ever done to you? Aside from what an unreliable narrator has told you?  :lol:


Edited by Jim Thurman, 07 April 2025 - 19:16.


#30 B Squared

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 19:21

Just discovered that there is a 1960 horror film with the same title, so, for those not familiar with the Thomas Harris novel or the 1977 movie:


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Grand Prix director John Frankenheimer also did this movie. Not one of his best in my opinion.

#31 Jim Thurman

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 19:45

Grand Prix director John Frankenheimer also did this movie. Not one of his best in my opinion.

I think Frankenheimer himself agreed with your assessment.

 

We must be careful explaining things, else be criticized for it  :lol:



#32 red stick

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 19:57

The book was better.  Harris had a way with thrillers, going on to write Silence of the Lambs and its many spinoffs.  I mainly posted this because some cultural references can be a bit obscure to the uninitiated.



#33 Jim Thurman

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 20:32

The book was better.  Harris had a way with thrillers, going on to write Silence of the Lambs and its many spinoffs.  I mainly posted this because some cultural references can be a bit obscure to the uninitiated.

Same for me about the posting  :up:  It's why I do it. I wanted everyone east of the Colorado River to know what Prommer's reference of Stater Brothers was all about, and why it was so relevant.



#34 red stick

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Posted 07 April 2025 - 21:21

Unsolicited opinion--Frankenheimer's best movie, even above The Manchurian Candidate, is Ronin.

Edited by red stick, 07 April 2025 - 21:21.


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Posted 07 April 2025 - 21:35

Unsolicited opinion--Frankenheimer's best movie, even above The Manchurian Candidate, is Ronin.

Interestingly, he was most proud of "Grand Prix." When he appeared on Later With Bob Costas, he said that was his favorite of those he directed, adding that he felt he captured the atmosphere well, before hesitatingly adding: "At least, I hope I did."

 

Costas seemed utterly shocked that Frankenheimer picked Grand Prix.

 

EDIT: Changed this, as it was more reflective of Costas' reaction


Edited by Jim Thurman, 07 April 2025 - 22:48.


#36 FLB

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Unsolicited opinion--Frankenheimer's best movie, even above The Manchurian Candidate, is Ronin.

 

 

Interestingly, he was most proud of "Grand Prix." When he appeared on Later With Bob Costas, he said that was his favorite of those he directed, adding that he felt he captured the atmosphere well, before hesitatingly adding: "At least, I hope I did."

 

Costas seemed utterly shocked that Frankenheimer hadn't picked The Manchurian Candidate.

 

Impossible to mention Grand-Prix without mentioning her.

 



#37 loki

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Posted Yesterday, 04:02

Reindeer Games…

 

5 Santas walk in, 5 Santas gotta walk out.



#38 prommer

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Girthy Seashore.



#39 jonpollak

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#40 Peat

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Is the race starting later than previous years?

A 2130 BST green flag is probably a bit too spicy for my 0545 alarm on Monday, I fear. 



#41 GlenWatkins

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Posted Yesterday, 10:27

Back to having a have a water feature for this race!

#42 BRG

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I know that Americans like to do things BIG, but to call the Pacific Ocean a "water feature" seems a litte excessive!



#43 red stick

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I thought he was talking about the fountain. Or maybe the harbor my mad-lib launched Ilott across. But whom am I to limit the scope of Glen's ambitions?!?

:cool:

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#44 GlenWatkins

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Posted Yesterday, 16:09

Thanks RS I meant the ubiquitous fountain, where various incidents have occurred in the past. I remember Pageneaud attempting an amphibious drive thru in 2022.

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Will FOX carry on with NBC's patented swoopy camera panning down the dolphins to the (single file) racing through the fountain turn?



#46 paulb

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Will FOX carry on with NBC's patented swoopy camera panning down the dolphins to the (single file) racing through the fountain turn?

I have it on no authority that FOX will have the camera inside an electro-mechanical dolphin that will squeal loudly as Will Buxton passes by.



#47 Jim Thurman

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Will FOX carry on with NBC's patented swoopy camera panning down the dolphins to the (single file) racing through the fountain turn?

Will the drone crash into the dolphin sculpture?



#48 red stick

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Will FOX carry on with NBC's patented swoopy camera panning down the dolphins to the (single file) racing through the fountain turn?

As you've pointed out, they have drones!  Who knows what aerial artistry may ensue? 



#49 red stick

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Posted Yesterday, 16:37

Or, as Jim pointed out, what new forms of IndyCar!!!! may be made possible . . .



#50 Jim Thurman

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The reality behind the LBGP is that Long Beach was quite the place in the 1920s and 1930s, but by the 1970s, was rather shabby and run-down (like most U.S. cities of the era, and note shabby and run-down are not the same as "seedy"). Pook and Michaelian went to the city and basically (if not literally) said: "What have you got to lose?"  City politicians agreed.

 

Although it is in Los Angeles County (which is very large), and in the metropolitan area, Long Beach isn't Los Angeles. It has always struggled at being in the shadow of its much larger, better known neighbor, much like a Newark or Oakland, but like those cities, it has its own identity...even after losing Nu-Pike and the elderly electric cart maniacs  :)

 

Like Cambodian food (I recommend Phnom Penh Noodle Shack).