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#1 Boniver

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Posted 03 February 2002 - 08:53

24 juni 1928 Bugatti GP
circuit Sarthe

1. Dubonnet – Bugatti
2. De Rothicheld – Bugatti
3. Zehender – Bugatti
4. Williams – Bugatti

Can some one help complete the race result

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#2 Marcor

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Posted 04 February 2002 - 02:25

GP Bugatti (Le Mans) 24/06/28
1- André Dubonnet Bugatti T37 n°50
2- "Philippe" Bugatti T37 1.5 L n°53
3- Geoffredo Zehender Bugatti T37A 1.5 L n°52
4- "Williams" Bugatti T37 1.5 L n°48

Final = 276.192 km (16 laps)
Handicap race

1st qualifying heat
1- Etancelin Bugatti 35C n°21
2- Drouet Bugatti 35B n°22
3- Zehender Bugatti 37A 1.5 L n°52
4- Benjafield Bugatti 37A 1.5 L n°32
5- Zigrand Bugatti n°23
6- Barrière Bugatti n°24
7- Valcourt Bugatti n°47
8- Madame Derancourt Bugatti 35 4329 2 L n°25
9- Bret Bugatti 37A 1.5 L n°36
10- d'Ahetze Bugatti 37A 1.5 L n°31
11- da Silva Ramos Bugatti 37A 1.5 L n°37

DNF- Blancas Bugatti (35B 4924)
DNF- Madame Jennky Bugatti 35C 4871

NA- Curral Bugatti

2nd qualifying heat
1- Williams Bugatti 1.5 L n°48
2- Dubonnet Bugatti T37 n°50
2ex- "Philippe" Bugatti 1.5 L n°53
4- Rigal Bugatti 1.5 L n°49

DNQ for the final:
Gaupillat Bugatti 37 n°33
"Sabipa" Bugatti 37 n°34
"Foc" Bugatti 37 n°41
Marcellus Bugatti n°43
Laly Bugatti 37A n°45
Floege Bugatti n°46
Wagner Bugatti n°51
Doré Bugatti n°54
Blacque-Belair Bugatti n°55

DNA- Fournier Bugatti n°42
DNA- Apparuit Bugatti 1.5 L

1st edition of this race. Belgian sources (Les Sports), French sources welcome, thanks !!

#3 quintin cloud

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Posted 04 February 2002 - 06:13

Great :clap: Thanks Marcor :smoking:

#4 FEV

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Posted 07 February 2002 - 03:56

French sources welcome, thanks !!

Sorry to come late on that one but I somehow had missed it !
Anyway I've got a problem here, and I am the one who needs help ! See :

1928.
Grand Prix Bugatti (270km), Le Mans
1) Mme Jenky - Bugatti (123,110 km/h)
2) Laly - Ariès :confused:
3) Baboin - Bugatti

I don't know what went through the mind of my dear Cohin when he wrote this, but I don't get it ! Jeanine Jenky won the Coupe de Bourgogne that year in front of Baboin (Babouin ?) - that's the closest thing to his Grand Prix Bugatti result I can think of... And of course an Ariès in the Grand Prix Bugatti adds to my confusion... Can you enlight me please Marc ?

#5 dbw

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Posted 07 February 2002 - 06:48

as a footnote,bugatti awarded the winner a brand new type 35 !! [chassis 4865]..in typical modesty,bugatti had the prize car bedecked with plaques noting the victories of the model in the past and had it displayed at the paris salon of 1928.

#6 David McKinney

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Posted 07 February 2002 - 06:54

FEV:
Jennky-Laly-Babouin was the finishing order in the 1928 Burgundy GP on 16 May - perhaps someone's handwriting isn't very good? Your Jennky-Babouin order for that race looks like a class result.

#7 David McKinney

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Posted 07 February 2002 - 07:11

Whoops! Wasn't watching the meter
I seem to have just made my 1000th TNF post :cool:

#8 FEV

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Posted 07 February 2002 - 12:37

Thanks David and congrats for the 1000th post ! Yes the top 3 Cohin gave for the 1928 Grand Prix Bugatti was indeed for the Burgundy (Bourgogne) GP - thanks for spotting the mistake.

#9 Marcor

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Posted 07 February 2002 - 21:03

The Burgundy GP was a race mixing Sports cars and racing cars, that's why Sheldon gave as results:
1- Madame Jennky Bugatti 35
2- Babouin Bugatti 35 n°68
3- Lobre BNC 527 SCAP n°54
4 and 1st 1500- Schell (Me) Bugatti 37A n°60
5- "Foc" (Foc-Matussiere) Bugatti 37 n°62
6- Chanson Marguerite n°46
7- Guy Lombard n°10
8- de Rovin de Rovin JAP n°40

Hope to find the results of the sports cars class, but not quickly. I'm going in France and will stay at Paris from Monday to Wednesday, with a visit at Retromobile and some specialised bookshops...

#10 VDP

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Posted 07 February 2002 - 21:06

Nice trip Marc


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#11 alessandro silva

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Posted 07 February 2002 - 21:41

Marc,
I'll be in Paris too! Leaving tomorrow. Drop me a e-mail if you want to drink a cup of coffee together. I'll be able to read it until noon (tomorrow Friday).

#12 FEV

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Posted 07 February 2002 - 22:38

Thanks for the precisions Marc !
I'll be at Rétromobile tuesday and wednesday, and at Paris most of the week - I'll be glad to share a cup of coffee with you gentlemen too ! It'll be nice to have half of the HL contributors get together ! As I am the junior member (no offense guys ;) ) the French tradition says I'm the one who as to pay you a drink ! C'mon Richard you're the other European member - any chance of a day off ? :)

#13 VDP

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Posted 07 February 2002 - 22:47

That's a lot of members

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#14 Vitesse2

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Posted 07 February 2002 - 23:25

Originally posted by FEV
C'mon Richard you're the other European member - any chance of a day off ? :)


Malheureusement, non ... : Merde alors!! :mad:

Enjoy! :)

#15 FEV

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Posted 08 February 2002 - 18:24

:( :cry:

#16 Bugatti bourgogne

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Posted 14 March 2002 - 10:33

Hi Guys,

What a surprise to discover that there are so many people interested in the 6 hours of burgundy...

Have a look at my web page www.chez.com/bugattibourgogne2001

All questions and discussions after are welcome....

please discuss together !


Kind regards from Dijon (France),

:lol:
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#17 Bugatti bourgogne

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Posted 14 March 2002 - 15:00

:rotfl:

Hi again,

Just a quick mail to inform you that the 2nd historical rally Bugatti in Burgundy held in memory of the 6 Hours will take place from the 17th to the 20th of may....

Bugattiste Regards,

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#18 Henk Vasmel

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Posted 17 October 2015 - 18:28

The last post in this thread is only 13 1/2 years old, so I don't suppose anybody is going to add much info without being prompted.

Recently I have been working on some Bugatti history and tried to get the results to the Bugatti GP's (preferably with chassis numbers).

For the first race, I think I have most participants, although some info comes from a badly legible copy of the entry list. Including the info here, there are also some contradictions, mostly in starting numbers.

 

Could anyone with more Bugatti knowledge enligten me about the number of Bugatti GP's (I have 3, 1928, 29 & 30) and the participants for 1929 and 1930.

 

Googling is not much use, because they always suggest links to the 35, which is possibly nice too, but not what I am looking for.



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Posted 18 October 2015 - 06:42

Who is that da Silva Ramos? I suppose it's not the 2.5-year-old Nano but are they related?



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#20 cpbell

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 14:26

Who is that da Silva Ramos? I suppose it's not the 2.5-year-old Nano but are they related?

 

Wagner and Fournier are also famous names - Wagner's participation seems reasonable (if it was indeed him) as he was still racing in GPs (for Talbot IIRC) in 1927, but, according to Wikipedia, Henri Fournier died in December 1919.


Edited by cpbell, 19 October 2015 - 14:26.


#21 Rob G

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 23:59

Wagner and Fournier are also famous names - Wagner's participation seems reasonable (if it was indeed him) as he was still racing in GPs (for Talbot IIRC) in 1927, but, according to Wikipedia, Henri Fournier died in December 1919.

Could it have been Max Fourny? 



#22 cpbell

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 18:17

Could it have been Max Fourny? 

 

Don't know of him, so I can't really comment.



#23 Michael Ferner

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 20:05

Fourny raced only small cars in the twenties, I believe, and got his first Bugatti in 1930. There were, however, three Fourniers in pre-WW1 racing, all brothers I believe. The youngest, Maurice, would've been in his late forties in 1928.

About da Silva Ramos, I think I have read that he was the father of the fifties racer, but wouldn't know for sure.

And yes, I believe there were only 3 Bugatti GPs. I have some entries and/or starters for the later races, but hardly qualify as a Bugatti expert.

#24 cpbell

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 21:51

Fourny raced only small cars in the twenties, I believe, and got his first Bugatti in 1930. There were, however, three Fourniers in pre-WW1 racing, all brothers I believe. The youngest, Maurice, would've been in his late forties in 1928.

About da Silva Ramos, I think I have read that he was the father of the fifties racer, but wouldn't know for sure.

And yes, I believe there were only 3 Bugatti GPs. I have some entries and/or starters for the later races, but hardly qualify as a Bugatti expert.

 

 

Maurice died in the "Grand Prix des Vieux Tacots" in 1911.



#25 Michael Ferner

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 11:19

Oops! You're right, of course.

Then there was a Charles Fournier, who built the Fournier small cars in the early twenties. Maybe it was him.

#26 cpbell

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 16:57

Oops! You're right, of course.

Then there was a Charles Fournier, who built the Fournier small cars in the early twenties. Maybe it was him.

 

I must admit, Maurice was the only Fournier brother I knew anything of. :blush: