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[HardRock]

Got a decent one 1.10.594
Still far from the best time though. :

[Brian O Flaherty]

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Originally posted by laneatkins
After running about 25 laps having forgot to perform weight reduction I thought I was a hopeless case!! The best I could manage was a 1:12.

Cheers Lane I have everything for my car and I'm getting a 1.12. I'll check my sector times and see where I'm losing it. Don't wanna be the deadwood on the team

[iconic]

ok sorry guys. i finally found this thread. i will be doing some driving tonight. though i only have like 140 grand in my garage (got my ps2 a couple of weeks ago)

i'll try my best team.. it's more likely i will make my team's average very bad

[bigbrickz]

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Originally posted by iconic
i only have like 140 grand in my garage (got my ps2 a couple of weeks ago)

To make cash fast check out the elastic band trick I describe in the initial thread.

[Earthling]

U might need to get a little more money Iconic, as this thing will get costly on ya, having to buy a new car every week and tuning it.
My advice is to try and do the fast runs with the CLK, and then go and play a little with ur main game to finish championships and get more money.


As for me, ive broken into the 9s last night and got a 1:09.729(not sure about the last 2 numbers...but very close. Atleast im sure about the .7)

Also have HP at 612.

Dont think i can achieve more than a .3 of a second more.

[Brian O Flaherty]

140k. I have less, but if I need money I'll do the amateur Euro cup and win a Vertigo worth 300,000.

[TT6]

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Originally posted by Brian O Flaherty
Don't wanna be the deadwood on the team

Don't worry, Brian. It's far too early to rank you as the official Alex Yoong of the THE ATLASF1 GRANT TURISMO WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.

[Brian O Flaherty]

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Originally posted by TT6


Don't worry, Brian. It's far too early to rank you as the official Alex Yoong of the THE ATLASF1 GRANT TURISMO WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.

Yeal we'll wait til round 3 to do that

[Pets22]

Cooking now - a 1:10.054 but i'm noticing my hp is starting to drop from 612 hp after 550+ miles.Oil changes won't cure it - have to buy a new car - good thing i'm loaded

As many of you have said, the hard part is the sweeping left after the first tunnel. Do you take it tight, or run wide? These are the questions that consume us gentlemen!!

my best line was to go outside, dab brakes and hit the apex late, trying to accelerate and finding a straight line rather than going wide and risk going in the sand. Have to get into the nines though, this is really competitive

[Brian O Flaherty]

One question on how you're scoring this JForce.
It is 3 people per team, and as you say, you did this so that one person could go AWOL without compromising the team's chances.

Am I to presume then that you are only taking the 2 best times from a team's drivers to get an average ?
Otherwise wouldn't it be prudent of a team not to give you their 3rd drivers time thus decreasing their average ?

I suggest that if it is possible for a team to renege on handing over their 3rd drivers times, that you only count the top 2 of all teams otherwise it is unfair on the teams that hand in all 3.

Do you agree or am I complicating matters.

[Earthling]

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Originally posted by Pets22
Cooking now - a 1:10.054 but i'm noticing my hp is starting to drop from 612 hp after 550+ miles.Oil changes won't cure it - have to buy a new car - good thing i'm loaded

As many of you have said, the hard part is the sweeping left after the first tunnel. Do you take it tight, or run wide? These are the questions that consume us gentlemen!!

my best line was to go outside, dab brakes and hit the apex late, trying to accelerate and finding a straight line rather than going wide and risk going in the sand. Have to get into the nines though, this is really competitive

Thats the way im doing it, and i did get a 1:09.729
I also have just over 300 Miles clocked.

[Earthling]

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Originally posted by Brian O Flaherty
I suggest that if it is possible for a team to renege on handing over their 3rd drivers times, that you only count the top 2 of all teams otherwise it is unfair on the teams that hand in all 3.

Do you agree or am I complicating matters.

I agree...only the best 2 times should be counted as a result this way.

[Jerry Lee]

One thing I might suggest is a 'Grand Prix' every other week, like the F1 season, for two reasons.

1) gives us time to win the required car. (All my energy is currently going to get a fast lap on the current GP and

2) If I race like this every week my wife will KILL me. I mean KILL....Blood, Guts, Gore, the whole bit. It won't be pretty. I'm sure some others are in the same boat regarding significant others.

How do the rest of you feel about that?
If not, I've gotten pretty good at hiding under the bed every 28 days anyway, I'll just have to do it more often.;)

[StickShift]

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Originally posted by Jerry Lee
One thing I might suggest is a 'Grand Prix' every other week, like the F1 season, for two reasons.

1) gives us time to win the required car. (All my energy is currently going to get a fast lap on the current GP and

2) If I race like this every week my wife will KILL me. I mean KILL....Blood, Guts, Gore, the whole bit. It won't be pretty. I'm sure some others are in the same boat regarding significant others.

How do the rest of you feel about that?
If not, I've gotten pretty good at hiding under the bed every 28 days anyway, I'll just have to do it more often.;)

nah... if anything, 1 week feels too long.

[Jerry Lee]

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Originally posted by StickShift
nah... if anything, 1 week feels too long.

I'm not suggesting working on a lap time for two weeks. Just have a week off, then get our track info and work on a lap time again for only a week. If not, thats cool.

[Earthling]

I agree......its been 3 days for me since i started competing in this Championship, and i feel like ive had enough.

I dont think any F1 driver would agree to do qualifying runs for 3 days let alone a week continuously.

1 week on, 1 week off seems very reasonable.
If the majority disagree, then i supposed that i wont be driving every single day to try to beat my time and your time.
Ill just be at a disadvantage....including Jerry Lee so far.

[laneatkins]

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Originally posted by Brian O Flaherty


Cheers Lane I have everything for my car and I'm getting a 1.12. I'll check my sector times and see where I'm losing it. Don't wanna be the deadwood on the team

Don't count me out for deadwood of the team just yet! There are still several days to go...

Yeah, after I figured out I hadn't done any weight reduction I was thinking that when I lightened that baby up she would fly like an eagle. She did fly, but I still need to explore the envelope with the lighter car a bit more. I'm also going to use some new setup info tonight that Pets gave me. Look for my times posted at around 11PM or 12AM (-4GMT EST).

I believe in the 8.

[HardRock]

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Originally posted by Brian O Flaherty
140k. I have less, but if I need money I'll do the amateur Euro cup and win a Vertigo worth 300,000.

This is the best way to get cash. Good advise for Iconic.

[HardRock]

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Originally posted by Jerry Lee
One thing I might suggest is a 'Grand Prix' every other week, like the F1 season, for two reasons.

1) gives us time to win the required car. (All my energy is currently going to get a fast lap on the current GP and

2) If I race like this every week my wife will KILL me. I mean KILL....Blood, Guts, Gore, the whole bit. It won't be pretty. I'm sure some others are in the same boat regarding significant others.

How do the rest of you feel about that?
If not, I've gotten pretty good at hiding under the bed every 28 days anyway, I'll just have to do it more often.;)

I agree with you Jerry. We are now two. My wife is gonna kill me too. She wants to hide the
Playstation. If I keep playing like this every night one day I'm gonna find it in the trash can.

[HardRock]

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Originally posted by StickShift



nah... if anything, 1 week feels too long.

No wife to deal with ahh?

[JDeRosa]

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Originally posted by HardRock


No wife to deal with ahh?

You know how I deal with the girlfriend????? I play when she goes to bed!!! Only downside is that last night and the night before I went to bed at 3am and 2am Not very good when you gotta get up for work at 7 :yawn:

[Brian O Flaherty]

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Originally posted by HardRock


I agree with you Jerry. We are now two. My wife is gonna kill me too. She wants to hide the
Playstation. If I keep playing like this every night one day I'm gonna find it in the trash can.

I agree too.

Just to confirm. Closing date for final times is Saturday @ 12:00GMT or Sunday @ 12:00GMT ?


Oh and by the way, with the very able help of my two team-mates, I have got my time down to a 1.09.838. I know there's another 4 or 5 tenths there too. My car has 608bhp but that time was got when it was 606bhp. At 612 with all corners hooked up we could see a 1.08.xxx. Well we can hope Nice to be getting times similar to the rest of you

[Brian O Flaherty]

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Originally posted by bigbrickz


I'm getting very confused, on a typical fast lap here are my approx splits :
21.1
42.9
1:10.500

So where ozf1 is taking 25 seconds for the last sector I'm taking 27.5... Anyone have a clue how I could lose 2.5 seconds on (I assume) the left hander before the last tunnel?

Hmm, my splits are more like 21.8 43.3 1.09.8

I'm hooking up the final corner deliciously. It's all in the setup as far as I can attest to.

[HardRock]

Good time Brian.
I'm doing 21.38 in the first split and 43.3 for the second one.
my lap time is 1.10.594 so I must loosing a lot of time in the last sector.
The last corner you talk about is the one going up hill? or going into the
second tunnel.
Part of the problem that I have I think is because I'm running over the grass
going up hill and may be the car is slowing down too much, but when I don't
do this the car feel loose and I lost a lot of time too.

[Earthling]

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Originally posted by Brian O Flaherty


Hmm, my splits are more like 21.8 43.3 1.09.8

I'm hooking up the final corner deliciously. It's all in the setup as far as I can attest to.

According to ur sector times and comparing them to mine, i think im losing heaps of tenths in the last sector cuz my 1st secor is in the lower 21.x and the 2nd is somwhat like high 42.x.
And my final score is 1:09.729 at the moment.
Still havent played tonight though.

[laneatkins]

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Originally posted by Jerry Lee
One thing I might suggest is a 'Grand Prix' every other week, like the F1 season, for two reasons.

1) gives us time to win the required car. (All my energy is currently going to get a fast lap on the current GP and

2) If I race like this every week my wife will KILL me. I mean KILL....Blood, Guts, Gore, the whole bit. It won't be pretty. I'm sure some others are in the same boat regarding significant others.

How do the rest of you feel about that?
If not, I've gotten pretty good at hiding under the bed every 28 days anyway, I'll just have to do it more often.;)

ditto. some of us have to work you know...

Great time Brian - SEE, now I'm the dead wood.

I believe in the 8.

[Pets22]

Originally posted by Jerry Lee
One thing I might suggest is a 'Grand Prix' every other week, like the F1 season, for two reasons.

1) gives us time to win the required car. (All my energy is currently going to get a fast lap on the current GP and

2) If I race like this every week my wife will KILL me. I mean KILL....Blood, Guts, Gore, the whole bit. It won't be pretty. I'm sure some others are in the same boat regarding significant others.

How do the rest of you feel about that?
If not, I've gotten pretty good at hiding under the bed every 28 days anyway, I'll just have to do it more often.

This is a good idea - surprising how much time you can spend on this - and i live alone!!

Hope i can go under 1:10 tonite - i'm estimating the best time will be mid 1:08.xx

by the way Brain - great time!!

[TT6]

Now it's 1'10.488 and I don't seem to go any faster.

[bigbrickz]

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Originally posted by Brian O Flaherty


Hmm, my splits are more like 21.8 43.3 1.09.8

I'm hooking up the final corner deliciously. It's all in the setup as far as I can attest to.

Arrrrgggghhhhh. I regularly finish the first 2 sectors in between 42.9 and 43.5 but today I'm having trouble even getting below 1:11'000 on the full lap. I'm losing 1.5 seconds on that last sector and I just can't figure it out....

Must .... break .... something.

[JForce]

OK. It seems that a majority would like to see the championship move to a week-on, week-off format, one which, one reflection, makes a lot of sense. So thats how we'll do it

As far as final times go, it will be 12pm Sunday GMT, that is, Sunday noon GMT. That way it's midnight Sunday GMT (we are 12hrs ahead of GMT).

I agree its all in the setup, but I am still having trouble with the last sector. My best so far?

After my initial 1.11s, im down to

1.10.474

Moving up the grid slightly, but still a second or so to be found!!

Im enjoying the competitive nature of this, even if i am losing!!


The initial idea was to take all three times from a team to find the average. i see no point in taking just the top two? If someone explains the advantages of this, id be more than happy to reconsider

[Jerry Lee]

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Originally posted by laneatkins
I believe in the 8.

I did up until last night when I ran at least 50 laps and could touch the 9.3 I ran only 2 hours before.

I don't know if anyone else is like this but, I tend to turn my best time very early and then have a hell of a time trying to match it the longer I run.

[iconic]

hi guys. i mangaged to scrap together buying a clk and ricing it to the max. i had to sell the acura rsx...

i'm getting 1:12s, but i reckon i could get into the 11s easily if i just be more smooth with the throttle.. i like doing power oversteering!! i haven't done the transmission or the suspension, so i guess im driving in stock handling...

i think i'll just keep doing the type r race and mercades race in beginner at the moment.

i argree with you JForce, best lap out of each team member and then the average for the team

[HardRock]

My time last night 1.10.019 .
Getting better. Very close to 1.09

[StickShift]

Small improvemnt after a good fifty laps or so. I know I have the first sector as fast as I can do it. The 2nd sweeper in sector two is causing me some problems, but my main probelm is getting enough speed down right out of the hairpin. A perfect lap imo is around 1'08.9xx.

As for my time, 1'09.497


I can still go faster!!!

[The Kanisteri]

Actually I'm not very fast driver per one lap because in 'gran turismo mode' I always drive with hardest tires and tightest chassis, suspension and with full downforce.

Nothing can beat the powerslide!

But I must to get used to those ultrasoft tires, to make faster lap times...

[TT6]

I keep hearing "it's all in the setup". Any setup hints, fast guys? I need a second somewhere.

[Brian O Flaherty]

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Originally posted by HardRock
Good time Brian.
I'm doing 21.38 in the first split and 43.3 for the second one.
my lap time is 1.10.594 so I must loosing a lot of time in the last sector.
The last corner you talk about is the one going up hill? or going into the
second tunnel.
Part of the problem that I have I think is because I'm running over the grass
going up hill and may be the car is slowing down too much, but when I don't
do this the car feel loose and I lost a lot of time too.

Sorry, by last corner I mean the one entering the final tunnel. I too use the grass on exiting the tunnel. There is a trick I've found to taking the left-hand "tunnel corner". I'll share it on Monday

[JForce]

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Originally posted by The Kanisteri

Actually I'm not very fast driver per one lap because in 'gran turismo mode' I always drive with hardest tires and tightest chassis, suspension and with full downforce.

Nothing can beat the powerslide!

But I must to get used to those ultrasoft tires, to make faster lap times...

Are you actually using tyres? I'm just using "run and settings" mode at the moment....no mode of play I can find at the moment will let me run a lap using tyres....it's very frustrating. Im sure with softs I could easily be running in the 8s.....

[JForce]

Latest update on my time:
1.09.689

I honestly don't think I can get any faster without using tyres. Its the only time Ive broken into the 9s, and its as frustrating as hell. Ive put in some incredibly long stints, and tried numerous setup changes. I think Ive got the driving part down, but I cant maximise the setup to cut the last .5 off that I need.

[JForce]

As far as the averaging of team times goes, here's what I propose.

If a member of a team does not post a time, then they will be allocated a time 5 seconds slower than the slowest member of their team that has posted a time. I thought of only making it 1 second, but if you were slower than that, you could just delete your posts to make it look like you hadn't posted a time at all. I still dont like the idea of only averaging the top two times...

[ozf1]

If i've learned anything about myself tonight, its that i cant handle pressure!
I was using a 1,09.364 ghost tonight and was on a lap that was 0.5sec in front at the final sector with a 41.8 split and i cracked bigtime at the chicane and tunnel and ended up with approx a
1,09.5. I almost cried.
I was in front of the ghost a couple of other times although it was only by a tenth or so, but always lost it at that damn final sector.

Anyhow, after finally getting it right in the final sector i ended up with a 1,09.190 with a
21.033 first split and a 42.068 second split. So alls well hat ends well i guess.

Ozf1

[JDeRosa]

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Originally posted by JForce
Latest update on my time:
1.09.689

I honestly don't think I can get any faster without using tyres. Its the only time Ive broken into the 9s, and its as frustrating as hell. Ive put in some incredibly long stints, and tried numerous setup changes. I think Ive got the driving part down, but I cant maximise the setup to cut the last .5 off that I need.

J - What tyres have you bought for it? If you set this time using the standard tyres that come with the CLK than you my friend are a fecking champion!!!

Initially, I'd done a boo boo. I'd forgotten that I could actually buy supersoft because I normally buy medium hards in GT mode so they don't wear too much, and with those tyres in this competition I could only manage a 1:12.xxx. I then forked out the 47g's for the supersoft and I immediately dropped about 1.5 secs. My best so far is a 1:10.069 and I try to play alternate nights so I get really pumped up about slashing my time...and guess what.........tonight's GT3 night and I'm gonna whoop my time, 1:09 coming up ....I can feel it

[The Kanisteri]

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Originally posted by JForce
Are you actually using tyres? I'm just using "run and settings" mode at the moment....no mode of play I can find at the moment will let me run a lap using tyres....it's very frustrating. Im sure with softs I could easily be running in the 8s.....

There's in setup option ' change parts' and out there you can found tires which you have purchased.

[iconic]

my time is around 10.3.................

thats with stock suspension and gears....

i could get low 10's or high 9's........

[TT6]

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Originally posted by iconic
my time is around 10.3.................

thats with stock suspension and gears....

i could get low 10's or high 9's........

Actually, I did 10'5's with race suspension and gears and when after that I tried standard gearbox, glutch and so on, I was still able to do more or less the same time.

So is it the setups or am I just a crappy driver who's getting just slightly better after numerous laps?

[iconic]

well i think it's the driver.. for me it is... i get like -.2 for the first sector and then stuff it all up.. i dont use the ghost anymore.. too much pressure

what i mean was that i've done everything up except suspension and transmission.

maybe it's harder with the wheel? i've tried playing gt3 for 10mins or so.. way too hard.. i'll prob try it again as the wheel is sitting on the ground gathering dust..

btw, is there any tire degradation option? like the more you drive, the less grip you get? or is it always on full rubber?

im pretty sure i can get into the 9s if i keep my concentration up. i'll try to get the best time and then start playing with the settings?

do all you guys have 24/24 for the brakes? that's what i've got them on..

[Brian O Flaherty]

I haven't touched the brakes. I presume 24/24 would lock you up pretty easy ?

[Jerry Lee]

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Originally posted by ozf1
If i've learned anything about myself tonight, its that i cant handle pressure!
I was using a 1,09.364 ghost tonight and was on a lap that was 0.5sec in front at the final sector with a 41.8 split and i cracked bigtime at the chicane and tunnel and ended up with approx a
1,09.5. I almost cried. ...

I know exactly what you mean. Whenever I get into that position my heart starts pounding and I get nervous, then I blow final sector and end up missing a good time.

Something else I thought about...Is it within the spirit of the rules to run a race with the proper car (in this case, the CLK) to get slipstream on the main straight and then hope to get lucky enough that another car doesn't spoil your time through the twisty bits? I haven't tried it, but I'm sure one could lop .5 to 1 second off a lap time that way.

[Brian O Flaherty]

I suppose it's up to the individual to find loopholes that were not specifically banned at the start. It's probably not in the "spirit" of the rules but hey if Ron Dennis played by the spirit he wouldn't be where he is today

[ozf1]

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Something else I thought about...Is it within the spirit of the rules to run a race with the proper car (in this case, the CLK) to get slipstream on the main straight and then hope to get lucky enough that another car doesn't spoil your time through the twisty bits? I haven't tried it, but I'm sure one could lop .5 to 1 second off a lap time that way.

I hadnt thought about that, but the problem would be coping with tyre wear and getting the timing right, i think it'd be pretty difficult to get the whole thing together.

I've found a setup tweak that seems to help in the last sector, but now the Merc wont produce anymore than 589HP. I need to buy another and soup it up again.