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#1 Schummy

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 05:39

The best track in F1 history. The absolute reference for driving skills. The definitive test for mastery in car racing...

Of course, I am talking about the old long track :cat:

About the new one... what we can say...

...

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Well it is not dismail at all, it is just the comparison with the old giant. It is so unfair to be beside the long circuit.

Somehow, new Nurby always remind me of Catalunya. The first sector of the track looks eerily similar to my eyes. I wonder if we can draw Catalunya guesses/results for this one ;)

It is difficult to asses a winner here. If Michael wins again it would be against chance's laws about long spells of good luck (well, this is admitedly unscientific); if Rubens wins... well, let's pass this one; if JPM wins without BMW blowing up, it would be unusual; for Ralf winning surely he would have to overtake someone... unlikely; DC winning in Nurburgring would be against the tradition of Mac redfacing Mercedes board in home. Suddenly this looks to be the best opportunity for Webber to win :rolleyes:

But let us drop the words and pass to the bravery: what can you guess for Mickeymousering?

----------------------------Warning! The Usual Boring Part Ahead! ---------------------------

It consists in guessing the three firsts in F1 races. You do an ordered guess (i.e. MS-JPM-RS) and a score is given according to real podium results. The scoring system is as explained here:

Suppose you do the guess MS-JPM-RS.

If MS is 1st, 3 points
if MS is 2nd, 2 points
if MS is 3rd, 1 point

If JPM is 1st, 2 points
if JPM is 2nd, 2 points
if JPM is 3rd, 1 point

If RS is 1st, 2nd or 3rd, 1 point

It another driver makes a podium position, it doesn't give any points.

The key for this system is not "gambling" on the exact position but to do a realistic shot at the relative merit of each driver in that GP. For instance, you are not penalized for JPM being first and not 2nd, as the penalty comes by not scoring with MS's first position.

In order to have a reference I will enter two "dummy" players: Bernie and Max (the names were chosen randomly ). Bernie always guesses the firsts three qualifyers, and Max always guesses the firsts three classified in WDC current points table. Can you outscore B&M?

Any guess can be done before one hour before the official first start of the race. We will use the "official" Atlas Forum clock to resolve close entries.

I remind you I am calculating a new secundary classification with average score to give an opportunity to no so constant players, that fail to guess from time to time.

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I want to homage again at our stars in this game: Estwald, gerry nassar, Makarias, SeanValen, Viss1, Ghostrider , etc.

Also I would want to remark those who got some perfect score until now: Estwald, gerry nassar, SeanValen, Viss1, Ghostrider, sek, fisichella_2001, LB, dynamite7, BERNIE(!), JensonFan and Zawed :clap:

I hope that regulars go on with this "battle" and we will be what is going to happen. BTW, I have the shivering intution this time Estwald and gerry are going to be splitted :eek: (obviously, I mean theirs table positions, nothing gore here ;) )

And very specially, I welcome newcomers who want to test their intuition/knowledge with this proven bunch of Atlas-experts.

Thanks to everyone from my heart and good luck to everyone (except maybe MAX & BERNIE ;) ) :wave:

PS: ... and sorry because my introductions are going longer and longer... I'm scary about I'll be going to do in Suzuka's GP ;)

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#2 Schummy

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 06:15

Just to show a possibility for next season (if this game survive! :) ) , I have done a classification giving 3 points for every no-guess. This way, one can skip for one or another reason a GP and still will not penalized heavily. Also a newcomer can get a decent ranking just with one or two GPs if (s)he is good enough.

I have chosen 3 points because regulars usually get 3 or more points (not always: engine blows, and drivers antics can play havoc with podium forecasting), and thus it can be a good baseline. Also, it has a pervert/fun side: if someone get less than 3 points (s)he is going to get LESS than if (s)he had not done any guess :)

This scheme doesn't mess the top of the list, as leading people has an expected punctuation well above 3 per GP. Just to test the adecuation of all this I'll be doing this kind of pseudo-table and eventually I'll put it in our threads. Ah!, I write it in green to remark it is "unofficial" :rolleyes: :)

Now, let's look how it would be:


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Pseudo-Table

Name			B S S A M C Tot

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Estwald		 4 6 4 6 3 4 27

gerry nassar	4 6 4 6 3 4 27

Makarias		4 5 4 5 3 4 25

SeanValen	   3 5 4 6 3 4 25

Viss1		   4 4 4 6 3 4 25

Ghostrider	  3 5 3 6 4 4 25

sek			 4 5 3 3 6 3 24

dynamite7	   4 5 3 6 · 3 24-

fisichella_2001 6 4 3 5 3 1 22

LB			  3 3 6 4 3 3 22

MAX			 4 4 4 4 3 3 22

JensonFan	   3 6 3 4 · 3 22-

ExcessIsBest	4 5 3 · 3 4 22-

BERNIE		  3 6 3 3 3 3 21

DeathMasterR	2 4 3 4 3 4 20

Schummy		 · 5 3 · 3 3 20-

Chrissy Boy	 · · · · 4 4 20-

miniman		 · 5 · · · · 20-

Schuting Star   2 4 4 3 3 3 19

CaptnMark	   3 2 5 · · · 19-

KaVkAzI GaNgStA 3 · · 4 · · 19-

skylark68	   2 · 5 · · · 19-

AD			  4 · · · · · 19-

andviv		  · · · 4 · · 19-

TOLIN		   · 4 · · · · 19-

Baby Satan	  · · · · · 4 19-

MONTOYASPEED	2 3 4 4 3 2 18

alain		   3 · · · · 3 18-

RAD			 3 · · · · 3 18-

312 PB		  · · · 3 · · 18-

palmas		  · 3 · · · · 18-

Ric Bol		 3 · · · · · 18-

scheivlak	   3 · · · · · 18-

Zawed		   1 2 1 6 · 4 17-

smarty		  3 2 · · · · 17-

The Sleeper	 2 · · · · · 17-

Hi Test		 2 3 4 2 · 2 16-

Bjorn		   · 2 1 · 4 3 16-

garth_b		 2 2 · · · · 16-

AndreasF1	   · · · · 1 · 16-

TT6			 1 1 2 5 · 3 15-

mach4		   0 · · · · · 15-

lukywill		1 3 · 3 0 2 12-[/COLOR][/B]


#3 lukywill

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 07:08

RB-JPM-RS

#4 Schuting Star

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 07:30

MSch-JPM-RSch

#5 fisichella_2001

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 07:54

No risks this time!

MSCH - MONT - RSCH

#6 TOLIN

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 08:35

MSCH-BARR-RSCH

#7 dynamite7

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 08:46

MSCH-BARR-MONT

#8 Bjorn

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 10:12

MS-JPM-RS

#9 Viss1

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 13:13

MSch-RB-JPM

#10 miniman

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 13:20

MS/RB/RS

#11 DeathMasteR

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 14:30

MSch-JPM-RB

#12 Estwald

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 19:27

Msch-Barr-Mont

#13 RAD

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 23:04

Msch/Rsch/Coul

#14 MONTOYASPEED

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Posted 20 June 2002 - 23:38

Mont/MSch/Barr

GO MONTY!!! :up: :up: :up:

#15 ExcessIsBest

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Posted 21 June 2002 - 01:35

msch-barr-rsch

#16 gerry nassar

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Posted 21 June 2002 - 03:16

Msch-Barr-Mont

#17 Zawed

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Posted 21 June 2002 - 08:11

MSch-Mont-Barr

#18 SeanValen

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Posted 21 June 2002 - 15:55

MSCH-MONT-RSCH

#19 LB

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Posted 21 June 2002 - 17:41

JPM - MSch - DC

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#20 JensonFan

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Posted 21 June 2002 - 21:13

JPM - MSch - RSch

#21 Ghostrider

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Posted 22 June 2002 - 13:47

MSch-JPM- Barr

#22 sek

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Posted 22 June 2002 - 13:52

JPM-MSch-Coul

#23 Schummy

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Posted 23 June 2002 - 07:51

My guess: JPM - MSCH - RSCH

MAX: MSCH - RSCH - JPM
BERNIE: JPM - RSCH - MSCH

The last, always the last... :rolleyes:

#24 LB

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Posted 23 June 2002 - 17:03

well that one sneaked past everyone :D

#25 sek

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Posted 23 June 2002 - 18:29

I Wonder why? :lol: