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#1 Don Capps

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Posted 10 July 2002 - 18:17

Allen has placed the results for the 1975 US season (SCCA/USAC Formula 5000 Championship) on his site at OldRacingCars (http://www.oldracingcars.com). "Island" (Wolfgang) and Jim (Thurman) were the assists on this with Dawn Harrison doing the conversion into a database.

I hadn't gotten around to getting very done on this season myself except for my notes and the sketches of the races, so I was very interested in what was there. Needless to say, the material is perhaps the first time in ages - - if ever -- that you can actually see the season's result's and related information laid out. Allen, Wolfgang, and Jim had not only the results of the finals, but the heats and the qualifying sessions. They have also provided that rarity of rarities -- chassis numbers ofr the cars competing in the series.

What I tried do over the past few evenings was match what was there with what was in Formula magazine, plus fill in what I had and would add.

Pocono -- In Formula, the Swanson car is said to be the previous season's Haas-Hall car; the Interscope Racing car driven by Ongais the former Wietzes car; and, the Levitt Racing car for Durst the "other" Redman car. The race was postponed about a month due to the track being flooded. During the original qualifying, Redman drove a T400 numbered "66" and a T332 numbered "1" when they returned -- the former Mickey Rupp car raced at Ontario.

Also, I tend to be interested in entrants, car names, and car numbers -- and in the case of F5000 (and other US series) who built the engines such Falconer & Dunn, (Ed) Pink, Traco, McLaren, Chaparral, (Alan) Smith, Molloy or whoever. This information is missing from the data presented, but it is easy to understand why -- it can really complicate a database! I also usually fastest laps, and other data. However, the qualifying data here is terrific and impressive.

Mosport -- Nothing obvious that I found.

Watkins Glen -- Ditto except for having the number of laps completed in the final.

Elkhart Lake -- Formula mentions the presence of Jarier in the second Shadow and credits him with that 2min 04.232sec lap in the last session.

Flowery Branch -- Nothing that was obvious.

Long Beach -- Ditto

Laguna Seca -- That Berta BA3.... Formula has Oreste Berta putting Luis de Palma in the cockpit -- Bill Simpson is never mentioned.

Riverside -- Nothing obvious.

Here is a sample of my format:


1975 SCCA USAC Formula 5000 Championship



Round 01, 1 June 1975

Purolator 5000

Pocono International Raceway

Long Pond, Pennsylvania



Final of 35 laps of 2.8-mile circuit, 98.0 miles; two heats of 20 laps each of 2.8-mile circuit, 56.0 miles.





1st	Brian Redman

	No. 1, Haas-Hall Racing, Lola T332 (HU45) – Chaparral Chevrolet

	35 laps, 50min 19.0sec, 116.889mph

	Start: Final, 1st; Heat 2, 2nd; qualifying, 4th, 1min 21.098sec

$14,250	36 points

2nd	Al Unser

	No. 51, Vel’s Parnelli Jones, Viceroy Lola T332 (HU35) – Falconer & Dunn Chevrolet

	35 laps, 50min 42.2sec

	Start: Final, 7th; Heat 2, 1st; qualifying, 1min 20.658sec

	Race Fastest Lap: 1min 21.0sec, 124.444mph	$4,500



etc.

Since I am not using a database format and generally pretty an inclusive sort when it comes to data, I can just add lines to the entry or put in a description of the entry, practice, race, and related information and not have to be bound by strict formatting rules and making the information fit the template. Typical me.

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Posted 11 July 2002 - 15:44

Originally posted by Don Capps
Also, I tend to be interested in entrants, car names, and car numbers -- and in the case of F5000 (and other US series) who built the engines such Falconer & Dunn, (Ed) Pink, Traco, McLaren, Chaparral, (Alan) Smith, Molloy or whoever. This information is missing from the data presented, but it is easy to understand why -- it can really complicate a database! I also usually fastest laps, and other data. However, the qualifying data here is terrific and impressive.

Ditto, ditto!!!!

And including entrant, car number and engine info is not so complicated, like:

1st Peter Gethin, #7 Church Farm Racing, McLaren/Chevrolet-Bartz M10A (M10A-1), 37 laps, 57'28.0"

Just my 2 € cents...

#3 Don Capps

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Posted 13 July 2002 - 17:06

Here is what I have cobbled up for my records....


Round 01, 1 June 1975

Purolator 5000

Pocono International Raceway

Long Pond, Pennsylvania



Weather: Overcast with some mist and light rain during first heat, drying conditions and overcast for second heat, with overcast, windy, and some light drizzle during the final.



Final of 35 laps of 2.8-mile circuit, 98.0 miles; two heats of 20 laps each of 2.8-mile circuit, 56.0 miles.



Final

1st	Brian Redman

	No. 1, Haas-Hall Racing, Lola T332 (HU45) – Chaparral Chevrolet

	35 laps, 50min 19.0sec, 116.889mph

	Start: 1st		$14,250	36 points

2nd	Al Unser 

	No. 51, Vel’s Parnelli Jones, Viceroy Lola T332 (HU35) – Falconer & Dunn Chevrolet

	35 laps, 50min 42.2sec

	Start: 7th	$7,500	24 points

3rd	Jackie Oliver

	No. 0, Phoenix Racing, UOP Shadow DN6 (1A) – Shadow Chevrolet

	35 laps

	Start: 20th	$4,500	16 points

4th	Eppie Wietzes

	No. 94, Formula Racing, Lola T400 (HU9) – McLaren Chevrolet

	35 laps

	Start: 3rd	$10,500	12 points

5th	Jon Woodner

	No. 91, Interscope Racing, Lola T400 (HU10) – McLaren Chevrolet

	34 laps

	Start: 19th	$2,300	8 points

6th	Bobby Unser

	No. 48, All American Racers, Jorgensen Eagle 755 (01) – AAR Chevrolet

	34 laps

	Start: 5th	$2,300	5 points

7th	B.J. Swanson

	No. 42, Bay Racing, Lola T332 – Chaparral Chevrolet

	34 laps

	Start: 10th	$1,600	4 points

8th	Evan Noyes

	No. 24, Eagle Creek Aviation Lola T332 (HU51) – Bartz Chevrolet

	34 laps

	Start: 8th	$1,450	3 points

9th	Jerry Karl

	James LaBar, Interstate Travelers Service Lola T332 – Bartz Chevrolet

	34 laps

	Start: 16th	$1,300	2 points

10th	John Gunn

	Racing Consultants Lola T332 (HU47) – Crane Chevrolet

	33 laps

	Start: 14th	$1,150	1 point

11th	David Hobbs

	No. 10, Hogan Racing, Lola T332 (HU30) – McLaren Chevrolet 

	33 laps

	Start: 6th	$1,500

12th	Danny Ongais

	No. 63, Interscope Racing, Bell Electric Lola T332 – Falconer & Dunn Chevrolet

	33 laps

	Start: 15th	$900

13th	Bill Baker

	Barbara Baker, Lola T332 – Chevrolet 

	33 laps

	Start: 12th 

14th	Warwick Brown

	No. 4, McCormack-Burke Racing, Talon MR1A – Molloy Chevrolet 

	33 laps, gearbox

	Start: 4th	$1,550

15th	Steve Durst

	Levitt Racing, Lola T332 (HU39) – Chaparral Chevrolet 

	31 laps, engine

	Start: 9th	$700

16th	Arlon Koops

	Solazure IV Ltd. Lola T300 – Chevrolet 

	30 laps

	Start: 17th	$700

17th	John Cannon

	Anglo-American Racing, March 73A (2) – Chevrolet 

	30 laps

	Start: 22nd	$700

18th	Mario Andretti

	No. 5, Vel’s Parnelli Jones, Viceroy Lola T332 (HU29) – Falconer & Dunn Chevrolet

	24 laps, engine

	Start: 2nd	$1,850

19th	Dan Furey

	Furey Racing, Lola T330 (HU19) – AMC 

	23 laps, engine

	Start: 21st	$600

20th	Roger Bighouse

	Roger Bighouse Racing, Chevron B24 (73/02) – Smith Chevrolet

	18 laps, engine

	Start: 11th	$600

21st	John Benton

	No. 22, Formula Magazine Lola T330 – Chevrolet 

	06 laps, engine – cracked block 

	Start: 18th	$600

*	Horst Kroll

No. 37, Horst Kroll, March 73A/741 – Bartz Chevrolet 

Did not start the final

*	Vern Schuppan

Francisco Mir, Lola T332 (HU48) – Chevrolet 

Did not start

*	James Dunkel

Libertarian Chevron B24 (73/05B) – Chevrolet 

Did not start 

*	Brian Redman

No. 66, Haas-Newman Racing, Lola T400 (HU3) – Chaparral Chevrolet 

Spare car, used for original date and then only in practice for the rescheduled date 



Fastest Lap:	

Al Unser, Lola – Chevrolet, 1min 21.0sec, 124.444mph

Lap Leaders:	

Mario Andretti, Lola – Chevrolet, Laps 1 thru 18

Brian Redman, Lola – Chevrolet, Laps 19 thru 35



This event was originally scheduled for 04 May, but heavy rains which resulted in sections of the track being flooded caused the race to be postponed until 1 June. 

Qualifying positions from the original qualifying date, 3 May, were retained. 

Each qualified car was offered $500 to return in addition to retaining the original grid position.



Qualifying from 3 May 1975

1st	Mario Andretti, Lola – Chevrolet			

1min 19.460sec

2nd	Al Unser, Lola – Chevrolet			

1min 20.017sec

3rd	Jackie Oliver, Shadow – Chevrolet			

1min 20.662sec

4th	Brian Redman, Lola – Chevrolet			

1min 21.098sec

5th	Warwick Brown, Talon – Chevrolet		

1min 21.198sec

6th	Bobby Unser, Eagle – Chevrolet			

1min 21.402sec

7th	David Hobbs, Lola – Chevrolet			

1min 22.299sec

8th	Eppie Wietzes, Lola – Chevrolet			

1min 22.400sec

9th	Evan Noyes, Lola – Chevrolet			

1min 22.902sec

10th	Jon Woodner, Lola – Chevrolet			

1min 22.997sec

11th	B.J. Swanson, Lola – Chevrolet			

1min 23.299sec

12th	Danny Ongais, Lola – Chevrolet			

1min 23.499sec

13th	Jerry Karl, Lola – Chevrolet			

1min 23.499sec

14th	Horst Kroll, March – Chevrolet			

1min 24.599sec

15th	Bill Baker, Lola – Chevrolet			

1min 25.598sec

16th	Vern Schuppan, Lola – Chevrolet			

1min 25.999sec

17th	John Benton, Lola – Chevrolet			

1min 26.398sec

18th	Roger Bighouse, Chevron – Chevrolet		

1min 26.398sec

19th	James Dunkel, Chevron – Chevrolet		

1min 26.501sec

20th	Dan Furey, Lola – AMC				

1min 29.401sec

21st	John Gunn, Lola – Chevrolet			

1min 30.096sec

22nd	Steve Durst, Lola – Chevrolet			

1min 34.003sec

23rd	John Cannon, March – Chevrolet			

1min 46.138sec

24th	A.J. Koops, Lola – Chevrolet			

No time



Starting positions in heats determined by qualifying results, those qualifying on odd positions in the first heat, 

those with even positions in the second heat. Heat results are used to determine the grid for the final, 

with the winner of the fastest heat winning the pole. 





Heat One

20 laps of 2.8-mile circuit, 56.0 miles

1st	Mario Andretti, Lola – Chevrolet			

20 laps, 33min 43.1sec 99.649mph

2nd	Warwick Brown, Talon – Chevrolet			

20 laps

3rd	David Hobbs, Lola – Chevrolet			

19 laps

4th	Evan Noyes, Lola – Chevrolet			

19 laps

5th	B.J. Swanson, Lola – Chevrolet			

19 laps

6th	Bill Baker, Lola – Chevrolet				

18 laps

7th	John Gunn, Lola – Chevrolet	

	Deflating tire			

8th	Jerry Karl, Lola – Chevrolet				

9th	John Benton, Lola – Chevrolet			

10th	Jackie Oliver, Shadow – Chevrolet		

	Crash – slide into guardrail 	

11th	James Dunkel, Chevron – Chevrolet 

	Did not start

12th	John Cannon, March – Chevrolet		

	Did not start



Fastest Lap:	

Mario Andretti, Lola – Chevrolet	1min 37.6sec 103.28mph

Lap Leader:	

Mario Andretti, Lola – Chevrolet	Laps 1 thru 20



Heat Two

20 laps of 2.8-mile circuit, 56.0 miles

1st	Brian Redman, Lola – Chevrolet			

20 laps, 29min 14.0sec, 114.937mph

2nd	Eppie Wietzes, Lola – Chevrolet			

20 laps

3rd	Bobby Unser, Eagle – Chevrolet			

20 laps

4th	Al Unser, Lola – Chevrolet				

20 laps

5th	Steve Durst, Lola – Chevrolet			

19 laps

6th	Roger Bighouse, Chevron – Chevrolet		

18 laps

7th	Horst Kroll, March – Chevrolet			

8th	Danny Ongais, Lola – Chevrolet			

9th	A.J. Koops, Lola – Chevrolet				

10th	Jon Woodner, Lola – Chevrolet	

	Fuel pressure relief valve jammed		

11th	Dan Furey, Lola – Chevrolet				



**	Redman switched cars from the Lola T400 originally qualified and started in 11th place in heat.

Fastest Lap:		

Eppie Wietzes, Lola – Chevrolet	1min 22.4sec 122.33mph

Lap Leaders:		

Jon Woodner, Lola – Chevrolet

Bobby Unser, Eagle – Chevrolet

Al Unser, Lola – Chevrolet

Brian Redman, Lola – Chevrolet



Notes



No. 1 Haas-Hall Racing Lola T332 (HU45) – Chaparral Chevrolet former 1974 Mickey Rupp chassis.



No. 42 Bay Racing Lola T332 – Chaparral Chevrolet former 1974 Haas-Hall Racing chassis.



Levitt Racing Lola T332 (HU39) – Chaparral Chevrolet former Haas-Hall Racing chassis.



No. 63 Interscope Racing Lola T332 – Falconer & Dunn former 1974 Formula Racing chassis.


#4 Allen Brown

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Posted 14 July 2002 - 14:20

Hello! I almost missed this thread.

Firstly, Island must take the vast bulk of the credit for this data. He collated it from many sources - all I did was start to identify the individual cars. And even that was done with his considerable help. Jim was good enough to check it all and Dawn did the important translation from a Word document into a database.

Don - thanks for the extra information from 1975. I agree the Swanson car was an ex-Redman car (the late-season one). However, we really don't know its number as only one car appears on Lola production records as going to Haas Racing. This first car, HU39, was wrecked early in the season but rebuilt for Durst in 1975. This rebuild presumably kept the same number as the original car but it's possible that the Haas/Redman late season car (to Swanson, if you're keeping up) also used that number. So we may have two HU39s in 1975.

I'm amazed about Jarier's appearance at Elkhart Lake as both Autosport and the SCCA sheets miss him completely. Gordon Kirby in Autosport mentions that the mechanics were wondering if the slow speed of the Shadow was down to the car or the driver. Had Jarier been there, surely his time would have been relevant. Is Formula definite that Jarier was there?

I think you are right about Luis de Palma driving the Berta. Simpson had done a deal to drive the car - it is mentioned in Autoweek on the run up to Long Beach - but Palma is the man mentioned in the results sheets and in Formula. I'm inclined to change this to Palma but Island is so very, very rarely wrong ...

I would love to record car numbers (i.e. entry list numbers), laps completed (for retirements), reasons for retirement and even engine builders but that information was not in Island's original files. I have recorded more for 1967, which I have recently done myself from the usual sources (Autoweek, SCCA results sheets etc) and I can now see what hard work it is.

Just to keep you busy, Tasman 1975, taken with permission from Bruce Sergent's site, is due up any day now.

Does anyone have British F5000 transcribed?

Allen

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Posted 14 July 2002 - 22:13

Originally posted by Allen Brown
... but Island is so very, very rarely wrong ...

And he tells me:

there is a photo of the #65 Berta in 1975 LBGP book "Roar in the City". "Bill Simpson" is the
name on the cockpit. The grid sheet in the race program lists Simpson as 37th in qualifying.


Now I come to think of it - maybe he is never wrong :)

BTW, Tasman 1975 went up today - expect more soon.

Allen

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Posted 15 July 2002 - 13:42

Allen,

Gordon Kirby was also the scribe for Formula and, as far as I can determine, the only journo to actually cover the US F5000 series in its entirety from 1973 to 1976. The references noted to Jarier and de Palma are from the same person who wrote for Autosport and Autoweek, and often when more complete information was available.

Jarier's presence at Elkhart Lake came as a surprise to me which is why I mentioned it. Shadow were in a dither that weekend and not having a good time at all, including the remarks as to where exactly the cause of the lack of speed was located. I will take another look and see what Kirby has to say on this.

Also, the question of the Berta is not Long Beach, but Laguna Seca. Apparently Simpson did spend some time at the wheel of the Berta at Long Beach, but at Laguna Seca where he apparently was replaced by de Palma.

The Formula articles tend to be more in depth and complete than the very similar articles in Autoweek, which Kirby also wrote. Considering the almost complete lack of interest over the years in this series, I am not surprised by how challenging it is to get all the pieces to fit. Whatever.

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 02:36

Not that anyone cares, but perhaps a few might be interested in this glimpse at the 1970 season:


Round One, 19 April 1970	 	

Riverside L&M Continental Championship Grand Prix

Riverside International Raceway

Riverside, California



40 laps of 2.55 circuit, 102.00 miles



Results:

1st	John Cannon

	No. 2, Hogan Starr Racing, McLaren M10B – Bartz Chevrolet

	40 laps, 52min 40.36sec, 114.04mph

	Start: 1st, 1min 18.77sec, 116.085mph	$6,790	20 points	Hewland DG300, Goodyear

2nd	Dave Jordan

	No. 21, American International Racing, Eagle – TPE Chevrolet 

	39 laps

	Start: 8th, 1min 23.13sec, 109.996mph	$4,050	15 points	Hewland LG600, Dunlop

3rd	Chuck Parsons

	No. 44, Aqua Velva Special Lola T190 – Bartz Chevrolet 

	39 laps

	Start: 6th, 1min 21.92sec, 111.621mph	$2,600	12 points	Hewland DG300, Goodyear

4th	Fred Baker

	No. 29, McLaren M10A – Bartz Chevrolet

	39 laps

	Start: 7th, 1min 22.55sec, 110.769mph	$1,850	10 points 	Hewland LG600, Goodyear

5th	Spence Stoddard

	No. 9, Competition Development, Lola T190 – Traco Chevrolet 

	38 laps

	Start: 11th, 1min 23.76sec, 109.169mph	$1,650	8 points		Hewland DG300, Goodyear

6th	John Gunn

	No. 39, Surtees TS5 – Gunn Chevrolet 

	38 laps

	Start: 12th, 1min 24.14sec, 108.676mph	$1,350	6 points		Hewland LG600, Goodyear

7th	Eric Haga

	No. 8, Lola T190 – Traco Chevrolet 

	38 laps

	Start: 9th, 1min 23.47sec, 109.548mph	$1,100	4 points		Hewland DG300, Goodyear

8th	Gus Hutchison

	No. 51, Champlin Racing, Brabham BT26 – Ford Cosworth DFV

	38 laps

	Start: 4th, 1min 21.15sec, 112.680mph	$900	3 points		Hewland DG300, Goodyear

9th	Rex Ramsey

	No. 32, Eagle – Bartz Chevrolet 

	37 laps

	Start: 15th, 1min 25.25sec, 107.261mph	$700	2 points		Hewland LG600, Goodyear

10th	Crockey Peterson

	No. 28, Coyote 66 / Lotus 38 (4) – CT Chevrolet 

	37 laps

	Start: 20th, 1min 28.25sec, 103.614mph	$600	1 point		Hewland LG600, Goodyear

11th	Gerard Raney

	No. 90, Eagle – Elgin Chevrolet 

	37 laps

	Start: 22nd, 1min 28.63sec, 103.170mph	$500	Hewland DG300, Firestone

12th	John Bisignano

	No. 6, McLaren M10A – Bartz Chevrolet 

	37 laps

	Start: 16th, 1min 26.36sec, 105.882mph	$400	Hewland LG600, Dunlop

13th	Len Guneau

	No. 13, Lola T142 – Baltzer Chevrolet 

	36 laps

	Start: 26th, 1min 33.56sec, 97.734mph	$300	Hewland LG600, Goodyear

14th	Alan Bouverat

	No. 19, McLaren M10A – Traco Chevrolet 

	35 laps

	Start: 21st, 1min 28.54sec, 103.275mph	$250	Hewland LG600, Dunlop

15th	Jim Paul

	No. 22, LeGrand Mk 11P – Modified Chevrolet

	34 laps

	Start: 25th, 1min 33.46sec, 97.839mph	$200	Hewland LG600, Firestone

16th	Rich Galloway

	No. 27, CMI Racing, Lola T190 – Bartz Chevrolet

	32 laps

	Start: 19th, 1min 27.40sec, 104.622mph	$150	Hewland DG300, Firestone

17th	George Wintersteen

	No. 12, Smothers Wintersteen Racing, Echlin Ignition special Lotus 70 – Traco Chevrolet

	32 laps

	Start: 10th, 1min 23.56sec, 109.430mph	$100	Hewland LG600, Goodyear

18th	Hamilton Vose

	No. 88, Royal American Competition Enterprises, Surtees TS5 – RACE Chevrolet

	29 laps

	Start: 28th, 1min 38.68sec, 92.663mph	$100	Hewland LG600, Goodyear

19th	Ron Grable

	No. 4, Lola T190 – Traco Chevrolet 

	33 laps, crashed – throttle stuck

	Start: 2nd, 1min 19.80sec, 114.586mph	Hewland DG300, Goodyear

20th	Hiroshi Fushida

	No. 97, Wayne Jones, Eagle – Zeus Plymouth

	28 laps, engine

	Start: 5th, 1min 21.75sec, 111.853mph	Hewland LG600, Firestone

21st	Lyle Forsgren

	No. 46, Forsgrini Mk 11 – Forsgrini Chevrolet 

	14 laps, oil pump

	Start: 13th, 1min 25.05sec, 107.513mph	Hewland LG600, Firestone

22nd	John Martin

	No. 89, Royal American Competition Enterprises, Lotus 38 (3) – RACE Chevrolet 

	14 laps, oil leaks

	Start: 27th, 1min 36.60sec, 94.658mph	Hewland LG600, Goodyear

23rd	Dennis Ott

	No. 16, Eisert – Hutson-Enright Chevrolet 

	12 laps, engine

	Start: 23rd, 1min 30.75sec, 100.760mph	Hewland LG600, Goodyear

24th	Peter Rehl

	No. 71, Cooper T90 (F1C/3.69) – Loynd Chevrolet 

	10 laps, engine

	Start: 18th, 1min 26.86sec, 105.273mph	Hewland LG600, Goodyear

25th	Lou Pavesi

	No. 61, McLaren M10A – Traco Chevrolet 

	7 laps, crashed

	Start: 17th, 1min 26.43sec, 105.797mph	Hewland LG600, Goodyear

26th	Sherwood Johnston

	No. 15, Surtees TS5 – Baker Ford

	2 laps, engine

	Start: 24th, 1min 32.57sec, 98.799mph	Hewland LG600, Firestone

27th	Dick Smothers

	No. 10, Smothers Wintersteen Racing, Echlin Ignition Special Lotus 70 – Traco Chevrolet 

	1 lap, gearbox/ bellhousing 

	Start: 14th, 1min 25.18sec, 107.349mph	Hewland LG600, Firestone

28th	Bob Williams

	No. 95, Wayne Jones, Eagle – Zeus Plymouth

	0 laps, crashed

	Start: 3rd, 1min 20.74sec, 113.252mph	Hewland LG600, Firestone



Fastest lap:

John Cannon, McLaren – Chevrolet		1min 19.1sec, 115.96mph 



Lap leader:

John Cannon, McLaren – Chevrolet		Laps 1 thru 40





No. 32 Rex Ramsey Eagle – Chevrolet is former 1969 John Cannon car


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Posted 18 July 2002 - 06:01

Don,

Oliver did that 2:04.232 at Road America in 1975, I believe.
Formula, November 1975, page 34: " Oliver`s best in the newer Shadow-raced at the Glen by
Jean-Pierre Jarier-was 2:04.232."

NSSN`s qualifying times tables have di Palma/Berta BA3 as 28th at Laguna Seca and
Simpson/Berta BA3 as 38th at Riverside in 1975.

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 11:25

Wolfgang, Correct as usual on the Shadow story -- I was not paying attention and working off a poor Xerox copy of the race and when I actually got that copy of Formula in hand.... :blush: . The Berta material is thinner than I remembered. Until I looked at the race report in Formula I was unsure of whether di Palma was at Laguna Seca or Riverside or both or neither.

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 19:09

Don, 'Island'

Thanks for sorting through all those issues. It looks like I have just one thing to correct on 1975: changing Simpson to di Palma at Laguna Seca. I'll correct that and post it this evening as it will keep up my run of updating the site every day for the fifth day on the trot.

Originally posted by Don Capps
Not that anyone cares, but perhaps a few might be interested in this glimpse at the 1970 season:


I care! I care! I have 1967, 1972, 1973 and 1976 complete and ready for checking; 1974 checked and awaiting corrections and 1968 half done. I have nothing on 1969 or 1970 so I'd be ecstatic if you'd allow me to copy your data for 1970. Do you have the whole season done?

Allen

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 20:10

I am plowing through my notes, folders, and whatever else I have handy on the SCCA F/A & F/5000 series. I finally found my 1969 and 1970 material -- it was lumped in with my USAC Championship Trail material in another file crate for some reason. I thought that I had done something on 1970 previously, but it was pretty minimal so I am just starting almost from scratch. My notes are pretty decent and I have most of the Autoweek material, so it is just a matter of doing it. I am just putting along and working on these things as I can, sharing my free moments between this series and the Championship Trail -- I am working on several years in CART, USAC, and the AAA as the mood strikes, but starting to make some progress. Actually, the way I am now recording my data has really sped up the process since I find it much easier to work with.

Bad news is that I often get interested in the events or the drivers or teams themselves -- or the stories surrounding them -- and forget what the object of the exercise really is, which is how so much of my F/A & F/5000 material got mixed in with the Championship Trail stuff -- I got to looking at some notes on George Follmer several weeks (months?) ago....

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Posted 19 July 2002 - 00:06

Here is an updated version of what I posted earlier:


Round One, 19 April 1970	 	

Riverside L&M Continental Championship Grand Prix

Riverside International Raceway

Riverside, California



40 laps of 2.55 circuit, 102.00 miles



Results:

1st	John Cannon

	No. 2, Hogan Starr Racing, McLaren M10B – Bartz Chevrolet

	40 laps, 52min 40.36sec, 113.577mph

	Start: 1st, 1min 18.77sec, 116.085mph	$6,790	20 points	Hewland DG300, Goodyear

2nd	Dave Jordan

	No. 21, American International Racing, Eagle – TPE Chevrolet 

	39 laps

	Start: 8th, 1min 23.13sec, 109.996mph	$4,050	15 points	Hewland LG600, Dunlop

3rd	Chuck Parsons

	No. 44, Carl Haas, Aqua Velva Special Lola T190 – Bartz Chevrolet 

	39 laps

	Start: 6th, 1min 21.92sec, 111.621mph	$2,600	12 points	Hewland DG300, Goodyear

4th	Fred Baker

	No. 29, McLaren M10A – Bartz Chevrolet

	39 laps

	Start: 7th, 1min 22.55sec, 110.769mph	$1,850	10 points 	Hewland LG600, Goodyear

5th	Spence Stoddard

	No. 9, Competition Development, Lola T190 – Traco Chevrolet 

	38 laps

	Start: 11th, 1min 23.76sec, 109.169mph	$1,650	8 points		Hewland DG300, Goodyear

6th	John Gunn

	No. 39, Fred Opert Racing, Surtees TS5 – Gunn Chevrolet 

	38 laps

	Start: 12th, 1min 24.14sec, 108.676mph	$1,350	6 points		Hewland LG600, Goodyear

7th	Eric Haga

	No. 8, Lola T190 – Traco Chevrolet 

	38 laps

	Start: 9th, 1min 23.47sec, 109.548mph	$1,100	4 points		Hewland DG300, Goodyear

8th	Gus Hutchison

	No. 51, Champlin Racing, Brabham BT26 – Ford Cosworth DFV

	38 laps

	Start: 4th, 1min 21.15sec, 112.680mph	$900	3 points		Hewland DG300, Goodyear

9th	Rex Ramsey

	No. 32, Eagle – Bartz Chevrolet 

	37 laps

	Start: 15th, 1min 25.25sec, 107.261mph	$700	2 points		Hewland LG600, Goodyear

10th	Crockey Peterson

	No. 28, Foyt Coyote 66 / Lotus 38 (38/4) – CT Chevrolet 

	37 laps

	Start: 20th, 1min 28.25sec, 103.614mph	$600	1 point		Hewland LG600, Goodyear

11th	Gerard Raney

	No. 90, Eagle – Elgin Chevrolet 

	37 laps

	Start: 22nd, 1min 28.63sec, 103.170mph	$500	Hewland DG300, Firestone

12th	John Bisignano

	No. 6, McLaren M10A – Bartz Chevrolet 

	37 laps

	Start: 16th, 1min 26.36sec, 105.882mph	$400	Hewland LG600, Dunlop

13th	Len Guneau

	No. 13, Lola T142 – Baltzer Chevrolet 

	36 laps

	Start: 26th, 1min 33.56sec, 97.734mph	$300	Hewland LG600, Goodyear

14th	Alan Bouverat

	No. 19, McLaren M10A – Traco Chevrolet 

	35 laps

	Start: 21st, 1min 28.54sec, 103.275mph	$250	Hewland LG600, Dunlop

15th	Jim Paul

	No. 22, LeGrand Mk 11P – Modified Chevrolet

	34 laps

	Start: 25th, 1min 33.46sec, 97.839mph	$200	Hewland LG600, Firestone

16th	Rich Galloway

	No. 27, CMI Racing, Lola T190 – Bartz Chevrolet

	32 laps

	Start: 19th, 1min 27.40sec, 104.622mph	$150	Hewland DG300, Firestone

17th	George Wintersteen

	No. 12, Smothers Wintersteen Racing, Echlin Ignition special Lotus 70 – Traco Chevrolet

	32 laps

	Start: 10th, 1min 23.56sec, 109.430mph	$100	Hewland LG600, Goodyear

18th	Hamilton Vose

	No. 88, Royal American Competition Enterprises, Surtees TS5 – RACE Chevrolet

	29 laps

	Start: 28th, 1min 38.68sec, 92.663mph	$100	Hewland LG600, Goodyear

19th	Ron Grable

	No. 4, Williams Racing, Lola T190 – Traco Chevrolet 

	33 laps, crashed – throttle stuck

	Start: 2nd, 1min 19.80sec, 114.586mph	$100	Hewland DG300, Goodyear

20th	Hiroshi Fushida

	No. 97, Wayne Jones, Zeus Eagle – Zeus Plymouth

	28 laps, engine

	Start: 5th, 1min 21.75sec, 111.853mph	$100	Hewland LG600, Firestone

21st	Lyle Forsgren

	No. 46, Forsgren Engineering, Forsgrini Mk 11 – Forsgrini Chevrolet 

	14 laps, oil pump

	Start: 13th, 1min 25.05sec, 107.513mph	$50	Hewland LG600, Firestone

22nd	John Martin

	No. 89, Royal American Competition Enterprises, Lotus 38 (3) – RACE Chevrolet 

	14 laps, oil leaks

	Start: 27th, 1min 36.60sec, 94.658mph	$50	Hewland LG600, Goodyear

23rd	Dennis Ott

	No. 16, Eisert – Hutson-Enright Chevrolet 

	12 laps, engine

	Start: 23rd, 1min 30.75sec, 100.760mph	$50	Hewland LG600, Goodyear

24th	Peter Rehl

	No. 71, Cooper T90 (F1C/3.69) – Loynd Chevrolet 

	10 laps, engine

	Start: 18th, 1min 26.86sec, 105.273mph	$50	Hewland LG600, Goodyear

25th	Lou Pavesi

	No. 61, McLaren M10A – Traco Chevrolet 

	7 laps, crashed

	Start: 17th, 1min 26.43sec, 105.797mph	$50	Hewland LG600, Goodyear

26th	Sherwood Johnston

	No. 15, Surtees TS5 – Baker Ford

	2 laps, engine

	Start: 24th, 1min 32.57sec, 98.799mph	$50	Hewland LG600, Firestone

27th	Dick Smothers

	No. 10, Smothers Wintersteen Racing, Echlin Ignition Special Lotus 70 – Traco Chevrolet 

	1 lap, gearbox/ bellhousing 

	Start: 14th, 1min 25.18sec, 107.349mph	$50	Hewland LG600, Firestone

28th	Bob Williams

	No. 95, Wayne Jones, Zeus Eagle – Zeus Plymouth

	0 laps, crashed

	Start: 3rd, 1min 20.74sec, 113.252mph	$50	Hewland LG600, Firestone

**	Dave Heinz

	Lola T142 – Chevrolet 

	Did not start

**	Mel Andrus

	Lola T140 – Chevrolet 

	Did not start



Fastest lap:

John Cannon, McLaren – Chevrolet		1min 19.1sec, 115.96mph 



Lap leader:

John Cannon, McLaren – Chevrolet		Laps 1 thru 40



Notes:

No. 32 Rex Ramsey Eagle – Chevrolet is former 1969 John Cannon car



Standings:

1st	John Cannon		20 points

2nd	Dave Jordan		15 points

3rd	Chuck Parson		12 points

4th	Fred Baker		10 points

5th	Spence Stoddard		8 points

6th	John Gunn		6 points

7th	Eric Haga		4 points

8th	Gus Hutchison		3 points

9th	Rex Ramsey		2 points

10th	Crockey Peterson		1 point

Working on the rest of 1970 and should have something soon.

#13 Don Capps

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Posted 19 July 2002 - 16:07

Allen, Jim, Wolfgang, and the others interested in this endeavor -- has anyone contacted Pete Hylton at the SCCA to obtain the F/A F/5000 SCCA scoring and timing sheets? If not, I will give it a whirl since I finally rediscovered his email address. I am interested in getting this information not only for my files, but intend to give the information to the IMRRC at Watkins Glen so someone will have this material in an archives which can be accessed by researchers without an extraordinary effort to shuffle around looking for this sort of basic data. If nothing else, I want to find out from him who was 16th at Bridgehampton in 1967.....

Allen, you know about the former Bud Morely McLaren M6B that Glenn Brown used at Edmonton? I knew that Morely had an M1B or an M2B, but not about the M6B which was apparently converted for F/A use. This comes from both Sports Car and Autoweek .


#14 Allen Brown

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Posted 20 July 2002 - 15:01

Originally posted by Don Capps
Allen, Jim, Wolfgang, and the others interested in this endeavor -- has anyone contacted Pete Hylton at the SCCA to obtain the F/A F/5000 SCCA scoring and timing sheets? If not, I will give it a whirl since I finally rediscovered his email address.

Don

No - I haven't. Those would be very useful to cross-check the Autoweek and Formula results.

Originally posted by Don Capps
Allen, you know about the former Bud Morely McLaren M6B that Glenn Brown used at Edmonton? I knew that Morely had an M1B or an M2B, but not about the M6B which was apparently converted for F/A use. This comes from both Sports Car and Autoweek .

I didn't know about that. I see it described by Autoweek as a M6 but that's about it. I'll dig more when I have more 1970 information to go on - maybe it also ran in SCCA Nationals and that might give us a clue.

Allen