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#1 bira

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 04:31

We are taking advantage of the relative quietness of the holiday and moving the website to a new server. Essentially, everything has been moved already and now it's just a matter of time (a few hours) until the DNS changes propagae (the domain www.atlasf1.com resolves to the new IP address).

I would appreciate it if you could please report in this thread any problem you encounter which could be related to the move.

Also, I apologise in advance if you run into any inconveniences, such as having to log in again or not everything working perfectly. We are doing our best to ensure this won't be the case, but haccident always appen... :)

Thanks,

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#2 squiggle bob

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 04:42

Originally posted by bira
but haccident always appen... :)

maybe i've had too much of the ole' christmas spirit, but that was damn funny..

#3 StickShift

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 05:14

The 'Current Active Topics in the Forums' on the main page are not working.

#4 Senninha2000

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 06:05

When clicking on a link to a post in my.atlasf1.com it starts to load the thread, but then the browser is redirected to the Forum list.

Also I'm not sure about for others, but my my.atlasf1.com page doesn't appear to be updating when I refresh it. I posted a message in a thread, then checked my.atlasf1.com page. It hadn't shown the update so I refreshed it, and the update didn't appear, although the post itself is definately in the thread in question

#5 bira

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 06:41

that's because the domain my.atlasf1.com has not yet propagated to its new IP, whereas you ARE surfing the BB on its new IP.

They will catch up in a few hours.

#6 Senninha2000

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 06:44

That's ok then :)

Thanks for the info :wave:

#7 FordPrefect

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 10:05

I had to log in but other than that; everything is normal.

#8 Viktor

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 10:12

Just a small thing, when entering the forums the address in the browser address bar changes from www.atlasf1.com to http://207.168.2.180/

EDIT:

Originally posted by FordPrefect
I had to log in but other than that; everything is normal.

I have to login everytime I close the browser window and open it again. Its proberly related to "my" error, the cookie is set to "http://www.atlasf1.com/bb" but the browser address is "http://207.168.2.180/bb", no match so no cookie is used.

/Viktor

#9 Vitesse2

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 10:39

Originally posted by Viktor


I have to login everytime I close the browser window and open it again. Its proberly related to "my" error, the cookie is set to "http://www.atlasf1.com/bb" but the browser address is "http://207.168.2.180/bb", no match so no cookie is used.

/Viktor


That's happening to me in Opera, but not in IE. IE seems to have overwritten the old cookie, but Opera can't or won't.

/EDIT Scrub that - came back on IE and had to log in again!

Another small one - I had my Favorites/Bookmarks set to log in straight to TNF. I now get the main forum page. :confused:

#10 daz

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 12:01

Originally posted by Vitesse2
Another small one - I had my Favorites/Bookmarks set to log in straight to TNF. I now get the main forum page. :confused:


Yeh - because its pointing to the old link, if you look up the top, its a different address. Just need to wait until everything is back up and running under atlasf1.com

I think ... ;)

#11 A3

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 12:19

Cookies don't work. :wave: Have to log on each time I visit.

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 12:25

ditto with me A3 also myatlas is not showing new posts - I think

#13 Senninha2000

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 12:31

Originally posted by LB
ditto with me A3 also myatlas is not showing new posts - I think

Same problem that I had before....now I've logged out though, I can't get to myAtlas anymore :mad:

Hopefully just restarting my machine will help, I just got to wait until it finishes something to test

#14 LuckyStrike1

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 13:35

Ditto ...

have to log in to PC every time I go there .... other than that, it's fine.

#15 Senninha2000

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 13:36

Originally posted by Senninha2000

Same problem that I had before....now I've logged out though, I can't get to myAtlas anymore :mad:

Hopefully just restarting my machine will help, I just got to wait until it finishes something to test


Restarting my machine fixed it :clap: no problems now :D

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 13:52

www.atlasf1.com/bb/ does not appear to be aliased to the main "index.php?s=" page.. so it gives a Permission Denied error.

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 13:57

Originally posted by pRy
www.atlasf1.com/bb/ does not appear to be aliased to the main "index.php?s=" page.. so it gives a Permission Denied error.


works for me

i havent noticed any probs at all :)

#18 condor

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 14:18

Originally posted by A3
Cookies don't work. :wave: Have to log on each time I visit.




Same here :wave: Just glad that I can remember my password :)

#19 bira

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 15:23

OK, I'll try and explain something to you all:

there is the OLD server and there's the NEW server. The OLD server has IP X and the NEW has IP Y.

Right now, the Bulletin Board is running on the NEW server with IP Y, while "atlasf1.com" is still pointing to the OLD server with IP X.

When you try to go to http://www.atlasf1.com/bb/ you are in fact trying to go to the old server. However, the Bulletin Board is no longer running there. Any attempt to access any page on atlasf1.com/bb/ will redirect you immdeditately to the BB on the new server, at http://207.168.2.180/bb/

As for cookies - you cannot get permanent cookies on your computer until the doman atlasf1.com resolves to the new IP.

DNS changes take a few hours (and up to two days) to propagate across the world.

Those who are impatient and somewhat familiar with networking can open their "hosts" file and place the folllowing:


207.168.2.180   [url]www.atlasf1.com[/url]

207.168.2.181   my.atlasf1.com

save, close all browsers and launch a browser window - you will now be able to surf Atlas F1 normally.

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#20 StickShift

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 15:47

I do say Reggie, the Wink smilie is just a red X for me. :confused:

;)

edit: Nevermind, I think it's just me.

#21 bira

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 15:57

same here, Stickshift, which is incredibly weird. If I go to http://207.168.2.180...milies/wink.gif it loads up fine. But normally, it's the only smilie that is not loading at all.

I'll wait till the IP crap is finished and see if the problem still exist then

#22 Wolf

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 15:59

Stick Shift- You mean in the Paddock Club text? In case of yes, ditto herem just box with 'image' written in't.

#23 bira

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 16:47

well the ;) smilie is back to work... spooky stuff.

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 19:37

Originally posted by bira

Those who are impatient and somewhat familiar with networking can open their "hosts" file and place the folllowing:


207.168.2.180   [url]www.atlasf1.com[/url]

207.168.2.181   my.atlasf1.com

save, close all browsers and launch a browser window - you will now be able to surf Atlas F1 normally.


Thanks. :up:

#25 condor

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 19:50

Haven't got a cleu what you're talking about....I'll just wait till it all sorts itself out :)

#26 bira

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 19:51

Just to explain:

The hosts file is a plain text file with no .txt extension. In Windows, it will be found in:

Windows 95/98/Me c:windowshosts

Windows NT/2000/XP Pro c:winntsystem32driversetchosts

Windows XP Home c:windowssystem32driversetchosts

(replace c: and the windows dir name with whatever you got on your PC).

If you don't have that file, you can create it with Notepad. If it already exists, you can open that file in Notepad. Either way, make sure when you save it that it does NOT have any extesion (eg it should be called hosts and not hosts.txt).

The format of the file is simple:

IP host name

So for example, one line that is commonly located in that file is:

127.0.0.1 localhost

(this is the fake IP of your own PC.)

By adding an IP and host name to your hosts file, you are essentially telling your computer where to find a specific host. This saves the computer the bother of "asking" your ISP for the location of the host.

So if, as now, the Atlas F1 host names have not yet propagated, by entering that information to your hosts file you are letting your computer know where to look.

Here is what my own hosts file looks like at the moment (not full):


# Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.

#

# This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.

#

# This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each

# entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should

# be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.

# The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one

# space.

#

# Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual

# lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.

#

# For example:

#

#	  102.54.94.97	 rhino.acme.com		  # source server

#	   38.25.63.10	 x.acme.com			  # x client host



127.0.0.1	   localhost

207.168.2.180   www.atlasf1.com

207.168.2.181   my.atlasf1.com

207.168.2.183   shop.atlasf1.com


#27 Vitesse2

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Posted 25 December 2002 - 21:44

Perhaps that might make more sense in Urdu, Bira ..... :)

Cookies and auto login are now working for me in Opera and IE BTW. And Favorites/Bookmarks back to normal too.

#28 Viktor

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Posted 27 December 2002 - 10:06

Everything works fine now, but not the "Current Active Topics in the Forums", its a very old list there.

/Viktor

#29 Viktor

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Posted 28 December 2002 - 10:09

Now it dont work anymore :(
Its back to ip address in the address bar, no active topics on the main page and no auto login.

/Viktor

#30 bira

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Posted 28 December 2002 - 11:50

Viktor sounds like your ISP has DNS cache problems.

Follow my instructions in posts #19 and #26 on this thread, and enter a line in your HOSTS file

#31 Viktor

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Posted 28 December 2002 - 11:52

Restarted the server now and now it works again
Lets hope it stays this way :)

/Viktor

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Posted 28 December 2002 - 13:25

Could be me but I still can't use the wink smilie...all I see is a empty box and a tiny dot where the smilie should be :

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Posted 29 December 2002 - 13:17

hmmm, after that I add atlasf1 to the hosts file the wink smilie doesnt work, it did before tho... :confused:

#34 condor

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Posted 29 December 2002 - 14:23

Originally posted by bira

DNS changes take a few hours (and up to two days) to propagate across the world.

Those who are impatient and somewhat familiar with networking can open their "hosts" file and place the folllowing:


207.168.2.180   [url]www.atlasf1.com[/url]

207.168.2.181   my.atlasf1.com

save, close all browsers and launch a browser window - you will now be able to surf Atlas F1 normally.



I waited 4 days for it to sort itself out - but it still hasn't worked for me. :

So, with the aid of an exasperated friend - I had a go at your instructions :)

# Copyright © 1998 Microsoft Corp.
#
# This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP stack for Windows98
#
# This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
# entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
# be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
# The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
# space.
#
# Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
# lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
#
# For example:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

127.0.0.1 localhost
207.168.2.180 www.atlasf1.com
207.168.2.181 my.atlasf1.com

Unfortunately ...it still doesn't work.
I'm running Windows ME.
There was no hosts file on it's own - but a HOSTS.txt file which is what I edited.
...I even made a copy of the file and called it hosts all on it's own - but it still doesn't work.

Any clues as to where I went wrong?

#35 Viktor

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Posted 29 December 2002 - 14:33

Have you restarted your computer?

/Viktor

#36 condor

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Posted 29 December 2002 - 14:44

Yes...I did - made no difference.

#37 Viktor

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Posted 29 December 2002 - 15:04

You are 100% sure that the file has no extension? Windows ME can hide known extensions (like .txt) if that option is selected (and it is by default). To turn the option off select "Tools->Folder Options->View" in Explorer (the file browser, not internet explorer), there you will find a option to not hide extensions.
Do you have a "always online" internet connection? Try to disconect and then connect again, it worked for me :)

/Viktor

#38 condor

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Posted 29 December 2002 - 16:22

Originally posted by Viktor
You are 100% sure that the file has no extension?
/Viktor


No :) I couldn't find a file without an extension as per Bira instructions.

So I made one :)

Although I did edit the HOSTS.txt as posted above.

It's still not working.... greater computer literate minds, than me (I'm not at all computer literate)have had a go - but still can't get it to work properly.


Should have added....it's not Atlas news, mag etc. I have the problem with - that all works fine :)

Just the BB's I have to login each time , and I get logged out if I click a link or don't view anything for a short time.

#39 bira

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Posted 01 January 2003 - 01:47

Where do things stand now for you, Condor?

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Posted 01 January 2003 - 15:46

Same as before.

If I go to the Atlas front page - my name is up in the top left hand corner - and I get all the news articles.

Where it says 'current topics in the forums' is blank underneath.

If I click on Bulletin Boards in the side menu....I have to log in....BUT, if I click any link it logs me out of the forums. Also if I'm logged into the forums....and have a break before looking at posts then an orange box comes up saying that I'm not registered to view the forum.

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Posted 02 January 2003 - 05:07

Originally posted by condor
Same as before.

If I go to the Atlas front page - my name is up in the top left hand corner - and I get all the news articles.

Where it says 'current topics in the forums' is blank underneath.

If I click on Bulletin Boards in the side menu....I have to log in....BUT, if I click any link it logs me out of the forums. Also if I'm logged into the forums....and have a break before looking at posts then an orange box comes up saying that I'm not registered to view the forum.


This is what is happening to me. It started to happen once I added the information to my hosts file. I'm using Windows XP Pro. When I didn't have that information entered I would load up the BB and log in once and it would stay active until I left Atlas and came back, I would have to log in again - but it wouldn't log me out.

http://207.168.2.180...y=&pagenumber=2

Is it still supposed to show the ip address in the url, or is that supposed to be fixed ?

#42 condor

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Posted 02 January 2003 - 14:16

Having spoken to another Atlas member...my Atlas front page isn't up-dating.

Under Internet options / temporary internet files...I deleted cookies and files and I cleared my history folders.

I re-booted the computer....but I'm still getting last weeks magazine page.

the last current news report was dated 24 Dec.

I think it's something to do with the hosts file that I edited (as per instructions)

see previous posts.



Some time later.....have renamed the hosts files to say oldhosts.txt oldhosts and oldhosts.sam (as I found another hosts file that didn't have anything in it)....so now effectively without a hosts file.
Everything else deleted, so I should be like a newbie just happenning upon the site, and I still get the old Atlas magazine page up...


.....edited even later....but the being logged out of the BB's problem has gone :)

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Posted 03 January 2003 - 04:14

I took all that information out of my hosts file - kept on logging me out, I will leave it for now. Just like condor, the front page hasn't updated since the 24th of last month.

#44 daz

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Posted 03 January 2003 - 07:00

Update - with my host file back to normal - the BB still logs me out after a certain period of time. I was just doing a post, and was thinking of what to write - then I clicked submit and I had to log back in.

#45 condor

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Posted 03 January 2003 - 12:54

Just informing of another problem
My Atlas doesn't work either - it asks me to login...and when I do takes me directly to the BBs.
If I click on the My Atlas link at the top of the screen again - it asks me to login again - and once again takes me to the BB's.
I just saw a locked thread by Kinetik about myatlas probs that was locked....I clicked on the link underneath.....but just got the BB front page.

........which are logging me out again :(

On the positive side :) nice to know I'm not the only one with a problem :)






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Posted 08 January 2003 - 03:23

Curiously I have the same problem as daz and condor.

Frontpage shows my name in top left corner but it always asks me to log in and the frontpage is a pre christmas vintage one. I was thinking that christmas must be over by now but everytime I go to atlas it gives me the same page with no current topics in forums.

I am lost. :confused:

#47 condor

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Posted 08 January 2003 - 13:36

This is so frustrating ):

I decided to have a go at trying to fix it myself....and did a search on my computer for all files with the word atlas in...the idea being to delete each one in turn to find out the effect....and then restore it.

The first one was called Atlas2020 - which appeared to be a shortcut to a site that's moved - I thought bingo - but deleteing it seems to have made things worse.....and I can't restore it.

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Posted 08 January 2003 - 13:43

I momentarily thought I had solved my problem.

In the address bar I typed in those numbers and it brought up the frontpage of the current issue magazine. I then logged in and then when the page refreshed it went back to the pre christmas issue. So I went again and saved that new address on the favourites list and navigated back to the current issue page then again when I logged in it refreshed back to pre christmas issue. So im back to square one.

Curiously too the password I needed to log in with was different to the password I need for the old atlas site. I am going to delete cookies and see if that helps me but im only stabbing in the dark again.

#49 condor

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Posted 08 January 2003 - 13:53

Dudley posted in the web site errors thread about the same problem - but he fixed it by flushing his local DNS cache - I don't know how to do that....but perhaps someone can post here how to do it?

#50 grmpreefan

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Posted 08 January 2003 - 14:06

Well getting rid of the cookies did absolutely nothing so the root of the problems still remains and I am far from one to go any deeper without some concrete instructions to follow so if anyone out there is in the know then please share with me and the gracefull bird.............please!!!